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		<title>By: Are Deep Sea Methane Hydrates Melting?</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-129477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Are Deep Sea Methane Hydrates Melting?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 02:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] food shortages aren’t enough in troubling news, we hope this German research effort to find if methane hydrates deep in the ocean is melting due to rising water temperatures – potentially emitting massive [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] food shortages aren’t enough in troubling news, we hope this German research effort to find if methane hydrates deep in the ocean is melting due to rising water temperatures – potentially emitting massive [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Fire, Water, Wind or Sunshine, a Watt is a Watt &#171; Bob Higgins</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fire, Water, Wind or Sunshine, a Watt is a Watt &#171; Bob Higgins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] wind at this point in time are not capable of addressing the world’s total energy demands.&#8221; The Remarkable Energy Potential of Methane Hydrate from Clean Technica by Glenn [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] wind at this point in time are not capable of addressing the world’s total energy demands.&#8221; The Remarkable Energy Potential of Methane Hydrate from Clean Technica by Glenn [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just about right.  We&#039;ll stop using fossil fuels over a couple of decades or so as renewables become cheaper for individual uses and situations.  Renewables won&#039;t have to get extremely cheaper, businesses pay a lot of attention to numbers and just a percent or two can make a big difference to the bottom line.

Electric vehicles are already incredibly cheaper than liquid fuel vehicles to operate.  Let their range climb a bit and prices come down (as they should with increased manufacturing levels) and we&#039;ll quickly flip off of gas for the majority of our driving.

There&#039;s another factor that may come into play - a demand by the majority of people that we do something about climate change.  Already a large majority of Americans recognize that climate change is real and a majority want something done, even if it costs them some money.

We&#039;re watching the Arctic melt this summer, almost certain to set a new ice volume record and fairly likely to set an extent record.  If things continue as they have been going we could see a summer melt-out within the next few years.  That and a couple more years of extreme weather events like we&#039;ve been experiencing could create an acceptance for a carbon tax or other mechanism that would make fossil fuel use more expensive.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just about right.  We&#8217;ll stop using fossil fuels over a couple of decades or so as renewables become cheaper for individual uses and situations.  Renewables won&#8217;t have to get extremely cheaper, businesses pay a lot of attention to numbers and just a percent or two can make a big difference to the bottom line.</p>
<p>Electric vehicles are already incredibly cheaper than liquid fuel vehicles to operate.  Let their range climb a bit and prices come down (as they should with increased manufacturing levels) and we&#8217;ll quickly flip off of gas for the majority of our driving.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another factor that may come into play &#8211; a demand by the majority of people that we do something about climate change.  Already a large majority of Americans recognize that climate change is real and a majority want something done, even if it costs them some money.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re watching the Arctic melt this summer, almost certain to set a new ice volume record and fairly likely to set an extent record.  If things continue as they have been going we could see a summer melt-out within the next few years.  That and a couple more years of extreme weather events like we&#8217;ve been experiencing could create an acceptance for a carbon tax or other mechanism that would make fossil fuel use more expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefanbanev</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103601</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stefanbanev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!! It is such a nonsense Bob, anyway everybody gets what deserves...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!! It is such a nonsense Bob, anyway everybody gets what deserves&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Arnold</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103557</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad Arnold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a new clean energy technology that is 1/10th the cost of dirty coal: LENR using nickel.  Look for it to emerge onto the US market this October.  Here is a video of a Nobel prize winner explaining: http://pesn.com/2011/06/23/9501856_Nobel_laureate_touts_E-Cat_cold_fusion/
By the way, if the Swedish Skeptics Society thinks it is legitimate, then I urge you to at least keep an open mind: http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3144827.ece
Bottom line: it blows every other energy technology out of the water.  One gram of nickel yields about 1.7 billion calories.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a new clean energy technology that is 1/10th the cost of dirty coal: LENR using nickel.  Look for it to emerge onto the US market this October.  Here is a video of a Nobel prize winner explaining: <a href="http://pesn.com/2011/06/23/9501856_Nobel_laureate_touts_E-Cat_cold_fusion/" rel="nofollow">http://pesn.com/2011/06/23/9501856_Nobel_laureate_touts_E-Cat_cold_fusion/</a><br />
By the way, if the Swedish Skeptics Society thinks it is legitimate, then I urge you to at least keep an open mind: <a href="http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3144827.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3144827.ece</a><br />
Bottom line: it blows every other energy technology out of the water.  One gram of nickel yields about 1.7 billion calories.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103572</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When we use them all up, or at least to the point that alternatives are considerably cheaper (because we are already close to equality in many technologies).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we use them all up, or at least to the point that alternatives are considerably cheaper (because we are already close to equality in many technologies).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103571</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Brad.  There&#039;s nothing to LENR.  Rossi has failed to prove his device, he won&#039;t even let it be subjected to an objective test.

To date all the &#039;heat and steam&#039; output is what one would expect from the electrical input to the system.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Brad.  There&#8217;s nothing to LENR.  Rossi has failed to prove his device, he won&#8217;t even let it be subjected to an objective test.</p>
<p>To date all the &#8216;heat and steam&#8217; output is what one would expect from the electrical input to the system.   </p>
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		<title>By: Fire, Water, Wind or Sunshine, a Watt is a Watt &#124; CleanTechnica</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fire, Water, Wind or Sunshine, a Watt is a Watt &#124; CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] TechnologyNew &quot;Plug &#039;n&#039; Play&quot; Solar Module Fits Almost Any Roof Fossil FuelsThe Remarkable Energy Potential of Methane HydrateClean EnergyWhy We Should Democratize the Electricity System (Part 1)Fossil FuelsWTF: What’s This [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] TechnologyNew &quot;Plug &#039;n&#039; Play&quot; Solar Module Fits Almost Any Roof Fossil FuelsThe Remarkable Energy Potential of Methane HydrateClean EnergyWhy We Should Democratize the Electricity System (Part 1)Fossil FuelsWTF: What’s This [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the problem here is that you say clean energy cannot fulfill our needs AT THIS POINT IN TIME, but then this methane hydrate option can&#039;t either. and we could be renewable energy powered by the time it would be &#039;useful&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem here is that you say clean energy cannot fulfill our needs AT THIS POINT IN TIME, but then this methane hydrate option can&#8217;t either. and we could be renewable energy powered by the time it would be &#8216;useful&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re starting to get data about what seems to be increases of methane bubbling out of Arctic waters.  

The problem is that we do not have the baseline data to show if this is an increasing amount of methane release or normal.  It will take a few years to gauge rate.

If we warm up the far north and oceans enough to cause significant methane release then it&#039;s &quot;game over&quot; for us.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re starting to get data about what seems to be increases of methane bubbling out of Arctic waters.  </p>
<p>The problem is that we do not have the baseline data to show if this is an increasing amount of methane release or normal.  It will take a few years to gauge rate.</p>
<p>If we warm up the far north and oceans enough to cause significant methane release then it&#8217;s &#8220;game over&#8221; for us.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No.  It&#039;s a terrible idea.

All this would do is to increase our global warming problem.  

This is sequestered carbon.  Leave it where it is or further risk making our planet uninhabitable for life as we know it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  It&#8217;s a terrible idea.</p>
<p>All this would do is to increase our global warming problem.  </p>
<p>This is sequestered carbon.  Leave it where it is or further risk making our planet uninhabitable for life as we know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103543</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the paper!

Jacobson and Delucchi have laid out the solution for you in very plain English.  All you have to to is to click on the link and read.

They have shown how we can get to an essentially 100% &quot;COMPLETE RENEWABLE ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE&quot; in 20 years if we develop the political will to do so.

Your post is foul.  You give us a way to make our future even worse.  There is no way that we should be looking for more ways to increase our global warming problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the paper!</p>
<p>Jacobson and Delucchi have laid out the solution for you in very plain English.  All you have to to is to click on the link and read.</p>
<p>They have shown how we can get to an essentially 100% &#8220;COMPLETE RENEWABLE ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE&#8221; in 20 years if we develop the political will to do so.</p>
<p>Your post is foul.  You give us a way to make our future even worse.  There is no way that we should be looking for more ways to increase our global warming problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Meyers</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103541</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn Meyers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your astute comments. And yes, should this energy source be used, immense care is required on the management of methane.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your astute comments. And yes, should this energy source be used, immense care is required on the management of methane.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Meyers</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103539</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn Meyers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Use you mathematical brain instead of a foul tongue. Have you conducted any mathematical calculations on the amount of energy the largest solar and wind plants produce? That pales in comparison with the amount of energy that is actually required. One day we may get there for  COMPLETE RENEWABLE ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE but it&#039;s not going to be in the near term!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use you mathematical brain instead of a foul tongue. Have you conducted any mathematical calculations on the amount of energy the largest solar and wind plants produce? That pales in comparison with the amount of energy that is actually required. One day we may get there for  COMPLETE RENEWABLE ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE but it&#8217;s not going to be in the near term!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris72L</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103527</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris72L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anybody read the novel &quot;The Swarm&quot; by the german author Frank Schätzing? Highly recommended...  besides other phenomenons of nature rising against mankind, he describes the problems which arise when methane hydrate is released uncontrolled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anybody read the novel &#8220;The Swarm&#8221; by the german author Frank Schätzing? Highly recommended&#8230;  besides other phenomenons of nature rising against mankind, he describes the problems which arise when methane hydrate is released uncontrolled.</p>
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		<title>By: Anumakonda Jagadeesh</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anumakonda Jagadeesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 06:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post on Methane Hydrate.


One potential alternative fuel that produces greenhouse gas but may be an oil alternative is methane hydrate. This substance is located in vast supplies deep in the ocean in a frozen state

Two main extraction methods have been successfully tested at an experimental site on Canada&#039;s Mackenzie Delta. The first, called depressurization, involves drilling a hole into the hydrate layer to draw down the pressure, causing hydrates to dissociate and gas to flow up the pipe. Thermal injection, the second technique, destabilizes hydrates by pumping hot water into the deposit. Because depressurization requires less energy, Wilson calls it the &quot;lowest-hanging fruit.&quot;
A third method appears promising, too, but has so far only been tested in a lab. Injecting carbon dioxide into a hydrate formation displaces methane, and has the added benefit of locking away an abundant greenhouse gas.

According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), 100,000 to 300 million trillion cu. ft. (tcf) of methane exists globally in hydrate form--most of it in the ocean floor. &quot;There&#039;s more energy potential locked up in methane hydrate formations across the world than in all other fossil energy resources combined,&quot; according to Brad Tomer, director of the Department of Energy&#039;s Strategic Center for Natural Gas and Oil.
Up to 200,000 tcf of methane is in hydrates in the U.S. Exclusive Economic Zone. Two Rhode Island-size areas in the Blake Ridge, east of the Carolinas, contain a total of more than 2012 tcf--110 times the country&#039;s annual natural gas consumption.

But a caution: If methane gas escapes directly to the atmosphere--as a byproduct of extraction, an earthquake or warming ocean waters--the consequences could be dire. Methane is a greenhouse gas 21 times more effective at trapping heat than carbon dioxide. Today, 3000 times more methane exists in hydrate deposits than in the atmosphere. Releasing even a fraction of this amount would amplify global warming(Source: Popular Mechanics,October 1,2009).

Dr.A.Jagadeesh  Nellore(AP),India
Wind Energy Expert
E-mail: Anumakonda.jagadeesh@gmail.com.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post on Methane Hydrate.</p>
<p>One potential alternative fuel that produces greenhouse gas but may be an oil alternative is methane hydrate. This substance is located in vast supplies deep in the ocean in a frozen state</p>
<p>Two main extraction methods have been successfully tested at an experimental site on Canada&#8217;s Mackenzie Delta. The first, called depressurization, involves drilling a hole into the hydrate layer to draw down the pressure, causing hydrates to dissociate and gas to flow up the pipe. Thermal injection, the second technique, destabilizes hydrates by pumping hot water into the deposit. Because depressurization requires less energy, Wilson calls it the &#8220;lowest-hanging fruit.&#8221;<br />
A third method appears promising, too, but has so far only been tested in a lab. Injecting carbon dioxide into a hydrate formation displaces methane, and has the added benefit of locking away an abundant greenhouse gas.</p>
<p>According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), 100,000 to 300 million trillion cu. ft. (tcf) of methane exists globally in hydrate form&#8211;most of it in the ocean floor. &#8220;There&#8217;s more energy potential locked up in methane hydrate formations across the world than in all other fossil energy resources combined,&#8221; according to Brad Tomer, director of the Department of Energy&#8217;s Strategic Center for Natural Gas and Oil.<br />
Up to 200,000 tcf of methane is in hydrates in the U.S. Exclusive Economic Zone. Two Rhode Island-size areas in the Blake Ridge, east of the Carolinas, contain a total of more than 2012 tcf&#8211;110 times the country&#8217;s annual natural gas consumption.</p>
<p>But a caution: If methane gas escapes directly to the atmosphere&#8211;as a byproduct of extraction, an earthquake or warming ocean waters&#8211;the consequences could be dire. Methane is a greenhouse gas 21 times more effective at trapping heat than carbon dioxide. Today, 3000 times more methane exists in hydrate deposits than in the atmosphere. Releasing even a fraction of this amount would amplify global warming(Source: Popular Mechanics,October 1,2009).</p>
<p>Dr.A.Jagadeesh  Nellore(AP),India<br />
Wind Energy Expert<br />
E-mail: <a href="mailto:Anumakonda.jagadeesh@gmail.com">Anumakonda.jagadeesh@gmail.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Pomfret</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/the-remarkable-energy-potential-of-methane-hydrate/#comment-103517</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Pomfret]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 06:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When are we going to Stop using fossil fuels ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are we going to Stop using fossil fuels ?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We know that renewable energies like solar and wind at this point in time are not capable of addressing the world’s total energy demands.&quot;

Bull. Shit.

How can someone writing for this site make such a stupid statement?

Read this...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-path-to-sustainable-energy-by-2030]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We know that renewable energies like solar and wind at this point in time are not capable of addressing the world’s total energy demands.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bull. Shit.</p>
<p>How can someone writing for this site make such a stupid statement?</p>
<p>Read this&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-path-to-sustainable-energy-by-2030" rel="nofollow">http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-path-to-sustainable-energy-by-2030</a></p>
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