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	<title>Comments on: Broken-Hearted Lawmakers Just Can&#8217;t Quit Incandescent Light Bulbs</title>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-114292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those CFLs designed to be dim work just fine with dimmers.  As do LEDs.

LEDs work fine in motion detector systems.  It might be the case that they won&#039;t work in some systems designed for incandescents (not something that I&#039;ve ever heard about).  If so, replace the system.  Same for advertising signs.  You&#039;ll soon recover the cost via electricity savings.

A light bulb in a guitar amp/air filter?  What sort of protective role might it play?  You protect from a short with a light bulb and not a fuse?  How can adding an extra load protect against a short?

Both CFLs and LEDs are available in a wide range of &quot;colors&quot;.  

Feels to me that you&#039;re stretching reality....


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those CFLs designed to be dim work just fine with dimmers.  As do LEDs.</p>
<p>LEDs work fine in motion detector systems.  It might be the case that they won&#8217;t work in some systems designed for incandescents (not something that I&#8217;ve ever heard about).  If so, replace the system.  Same for advertising signs.  You&#8217;ll soon recover the cost via electricity savings.</p>
<p>A light bulb in a guitar amp/air filter?  What sort of protective role might it play?  You protect from a short with a light bulb and not a fuse?  How can adding an extra load protect against a short?</p>
<p>Both CFLs and LEDs are available in a wide range of &#8220;colors&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Feels to me that you&#8217;re stretching reality&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-114290</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#039;m sorry, i just don&#039;t think that there will not be adequate light bulbs for those others uses mentioned -- there will be, somehow, since millions of people have such requirements.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m sorry, i just don&#8217;t think that there will not be adequate light bulbs for those others uses mentioned &#8212; there will be, somehow, since millions of people have such requirements.</p>
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		<title>By: LarryR</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-114289</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LarryR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But the more efficient ones do not match the resistance and temperature coefficient characteristics needed for the electronic uses mentioned above. The bulb is not being used as a light bulb, but as a current dependent resistor.

And making a gig band replace its expensive lighting system because the light bulbs for it are no longer available is wrong.

(And all of this because Al Gore did bad science???)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the more efficient ones do not match the resistance and temperature coefficient characteristics needed for the electronic uses mentioned above. The bulb is not being used as a light bulb, but as a current dependent resistor.</p>
<p>And making a gig band replace its expensive lighting system because the light bulbs for it are no longer available is wrong.</p>
<p>(And all of this because Al Gore did bad science???)</p>
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		<title>By: LarryR</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-114288</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LarryR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes. It is guaranteed to remove the conventional incandescent bulb, because of its nature. And as my other post says (or said - I can&#039;t find it now), there are uses where the new technologies can&#039;t be substituted.

I use LED and CFL where I can. I like them for many uses. But what about where I can&#039;t?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. It is guaranteed to remove the conventional incandescent bulb, because of its nature. And as my other post says (or said &#8211; I can&#8217;t find it now), there are uses where the new technologies can&#8217;t be substituted.</p>
<p>I use LED and CFL where I can. I like them for many uses. But what about where I can&#8217;t?</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-114284</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure that, if there are really those markets that can&#039;t do without incandescents (though, I have a hard time believing that&#039;s the case), then you will still be able to find incandescent bulbs for that. incandescents are not being banned -- they just must be more efficient.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that, if there are really those markets that can&#8217;t do without incandescents (though, I have a hard time believing that&#8217;s the case), then you will still be able to find incandescent bulbs for that. incandescents are not being banned &#8212; they just must be more efficient.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-114283</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The law to make sure bulbs are reasonably efficient?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The law to make sure bulbs are reasonably efficient?</p>
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		<title>By: LarryR</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-114282</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LarryR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t hate the new technologies. We hate big government for using the force of law here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t hate the new technologies. We hate big government for using the force of law here.</p>
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		<title>By: LarryR</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-114278</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LarryR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a reason some of us need incandescent lamps. The new lamps do not work in systems for:

Motion detector security lights: The CFL burns out fast, and the LED won&#039;t shut off. But the LED works if you leave one of the bulbs an incandescent.

Dimmers: Most of them don&#039;t work, and those that do flicker or are not smooth.

Guitar amp: I have an old guitar amp that has a 100W bulb in it to protect the transistors from overload. If that bulb ever burns out....

Electrostatic air filter: Mine has two 100W bulbs in it to protect the power supply if something shorts the grid. Again, if either of those ever burns out....

Expensive light show devices for bands: Won&#039;t work with other technologies.

Advertising signs: The CFL burns out fast, the LED won&#039;t turn off.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a reason some of us need incandescent lamps. The new lamps do not work in systems for:</p>
<p>Motion detector security lights: The CFL burns out fast, and the LED won&#8217;t shut off. But the LED works if you leave one of the bulbs an incandescent.</p>
<p>Dimmers: Most of them don&#8217;t work, and those that do flicker or are not smooth.</p>
<p>Guitar amp: I have an old guitar amp that has a 100W bulb in it to protect the transistors from overload. If that bulb ever burns out&#8230;.</p>
<p>Electrostatic air filter: Mine has two 100W bulbs in it to protect the power supply if something shorts the grid. Again, if either of those ever burns out&#8230;.</p>
<p>Expensive light show devices for bands: Won&#8217;t work with other technologies.</p>
<p>Advertising signs: The CFL burns out fast, the LED won&#8217;t turn off.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-111154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have a nice day]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a nice day</p>
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		<title>By: Roshawnmarkwees</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-111129</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roshawnmarkwees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LED bulbs and fluorescents look the same as incandescents to ignorant people with no eye.
Green freaks have proven that they lack taste. Do you light your fireplace with LED bulbs or actual fire? That&#039;s the difference between incandescents and fake light.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LED bulbs and fluorescents look the same as incandescents to ignorant people with no eye.<br />
Green freaks have proven that they lack taste. Do you light your fireplace with LED bulbs or actual fire? That&#8217;s the difference between incandescents and fake light.</p>
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		<title>By: Zombie Light Bulb Legislation Rises from the Dead &#124; CleanTechnica</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-101952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zombie Light Bulb Legislation Rises from the Dead &#124; CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] no new standards.Energy Efficiency and Incandescent BulbsAs reported elsewhere in CleanTechnica, the new light bulb efficiency standards were set under a 2007 law that did not &#8220;ban&#8221; incandescents, but it did require [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] no new standards.Energy Efficiency and Incandescent BulbsAs reported elsewhere in CleanTechnica, the new light bulb efficiency standards were set under a 2007 law that did not &#8220;ban&#8221; incandescents, but it did require [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-101543</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow, what an excellent, profound observation. that is the sad truth]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, what an excellent, profound observation. that is the sad truth</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Gorski</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-101542</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Gorski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ecovantage is not an LED]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ecovantage is not an LED</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-101537</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard Nixon changed the Republican party from one that won elections based on their conservative fiscal and pro business philosophy to one that won elections based on hate.  Nixon&#039;s &quot;Southern strategy&quot; used racial hate of blacks to attract voters.  It was one of the most disgusting developments in our country&#039;s history.

After using hate of blacks, Republicans turned to hate of women who were seeking their rights, gays, Hispanics, and Muslims.  By seeking out groups who hate and playing up to their hate, Republicans have cobbled together enough votes to win elections and pass legislation favorable to the corporations which fund them.

As our society matures we have largely outgrown our hate of racial minorities and women have emerged as economic and political powerfully people.   On the whole we have come to accept gays.  Now Republicans are left looking for a new group to hate in order to form a new power base.

It&#039;s now environmentalists&#039; turn.  

Hating on environmentalists has a double use for Republicans.  It gives them a group toward which they can focus the attention of the dumb bunnies which they attract to their party.  Those working folks who can be made so mad over what someone else is doing, and has no impact on their lives, that they will vote against their personal best interests.  Working folks voting to cut the security nets that keep them off the street if they stumble and and voting to cut taxes on the extremely wealthy so that they can buy a few more houses and bigger yachts.

It also helps their fossil fuel supporters, the people pouring mega bucks into Republican coffers in hopes that environmental regulations can be defeated, or at least slowed.

So, let&#039;s greet the efficient light bulb,  the new target of Republican hate.  On that hate they will attempt to gather a few more votes and keep the smoke stacks smokin&#039;....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Nixon changed the Republican party from one that won elections based on their conservative fiscal and pro business philosophy to one that won elections based on hate.  Nixon&#8217;s &#8220;Southern strategy&#8221; used racial hate of blacks to attract voters.  It was one of the most disgusting developments in our country&#8217;s history.</p>
<p>After using hate of blacks, Republicans turned to hate of women who were seeking their rights, gays, Hispanics, and Muslims.  By seeking out groups who hate and playing up to their hate, Republicans have cobbled together enough votes to win elections and pass legislation favorable to the corporations which fund them.</p>
<p>As our society matures we have largely outgrown our hate of racial minorities and women have emerged as economic and political powerfully people.   On the whole we have come to accept gays.  Now Republicans are left looking for a new group to hate in order to form a new power base.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s now environmentalists&#8217; turn.  </p>
<p>Hating on environmentalists has a double use for Republicans.  It gives them a group toward which they can focus the attention of the dumb bunnies which they attract to their party.  Those working folks who can be made so mad over what someone else is doing, and has no impact on their lives, that they will vote against their personal best interests.  Working folks voting to cut the security nets that keep them off the street if they stumble and and voting to cut taxes on the extremely wealthy so that they can buy a few more houses and bigger yachts.</p>
<p>It also helps their fossil fuel supporters, the people pouring mega bucks into Republican coffers in hopes that environmental regulations can be defeated, or at least slowed.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s greet the efficient light bulb,  the new target of Republican hate.  On that hate they will attempt to gather a few more votes and keep the smoke stacks smokin&#8217;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Floyd</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-101533</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Floyd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That Philips bulb mentioned in the second paragraph uses halogen technology. Their LED bulbs do a lot better than the cited 28%.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Philips bulb mentioned in the second paragraph uses halogen technology. Their LED bulbs do a lot better than the cited 28%.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Floyd</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/30/broken-hearted-lawmakers-just-cant-quit-incandescent-light-bulbs/#comment-101534</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Floyd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That Philips bulb mentioned in the second paragraph uses halogen technology. Their LED bulbs do a lot better than the cited 28%.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Philips bulb mentioned in the second paragraph uses halogen technology. Their LED bulbs do a lot better than the cited 28%.</p>
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