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	<title>Comments on: Solar-Powered Bike Lanes/Roads Coming To Holland</title>
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		<title>By: JEGATHESH B.E.,</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/25/solar-panels-bike-lanesroads-coming-to-holland/#comment-138755</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JEGATHESH B.E.,]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it is very useful to me please send more details to jegabe03@gmail.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is very useful to me please send more details to <a href="mailto:jegabe03@gmail.com">jegabe03@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Solar Roadways (the company) to Build Solar Panel Parking Lot (+ Top Transportation Stories) &#124; CleanTechnica</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/25/solar-panels-bike-lanesroads-coming-to-holland/#comment-103260</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Solar Roadways (the company) to Build Solar Panel Parking Lot (+ Top Transportation Stories) &#124; CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a company with the name Solar Roadways. We&#8217;ve written about the potential of solar roads and solar bike lanes a number of times over the years, but there&#8217;s news out now that Solar Roadways has received a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] a company with the name Solar Roadways. We&#8217;ve written about the potential of solar roads and solar bike lanes a number of times over the years, but there&#8217;s news out now that Solar Roadways has received a [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: plumbing</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/25/solar-panels-bike-lanesroads-coming-to-holland/#comment-98519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[plumbing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 06:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an awesome and innovative utilization of solar energy. I personally think that it also looks cool. It will help promote the use of solar energy even more. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an awesome and innovative utilization of solar energy. I personally think that it also looks cool. It will help promote the use of solar energy even more. </p>
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		<title>By: Important Media Umbrella Acct</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/25/solar-panels-bike-lanesroads-coming-to-holland/#comment-97735</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Important Media Umbrella Acct]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, seriously, above would be better -- must cost more, but think it would pay off in the end.

&amp; i&#039;m sure many a bicyclist would appreciate cover from the rain :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, seriously, above would be better &#8212; must cost more, but think it would pay off in the end.</p>
<p>&amp; i&#8217;m sure many a bicyclist would appreciate cover from the rain <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Important Media Umbrella Acct</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/25/solar-panels-bike-lanesroads-coming-to-holland/#comment-97734</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Important Media Umbrella Acct]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, they must have something in place to address that. i&#039;m sure -- they are Dutch (i.e. know about bicycling)! :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, they must have something in place to address that. i&#8217;m sure &#8212; they are Dutch (i.e. know about bicycling)! <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/25/solar-panels-bike-lanesroads-coming-to-holland/#comment-97635</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calculate the &#039;average shade&#039;.  Those panels will not be performing.  If they were above the traffic they would.

Additionally there&#039;s a problem with a partially shaded panel.  If it isn&#039;t isolated with its own dedicated inverter, it pulls down the performance of all the other connected panels.

And I can assure you, the picture you linked is not what I would call &#039;bumper to bumper&#039;.  That&#039;s traffic moving and very spread out compared to what one often experiences in urban areas.  Bumper to bumper is less than one car length between vehicles.  Leave more and someone will pull in front of you.

--

Here&#039;s some bumper to bumper pictures for you.

http://www.google.com/search?q=bumper+to+bumper+traffic&amp;hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hs=5HZ&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;prmd=ivns&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbo=u&amp;source=univ&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=rda5TdrkIPPPiALL2JAV&amp;ved=0CDIQsAQ&amp;biw=1147&amp;bih=761]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calculate the &#8216;average shade&#8217;.  Those panels will not be performing.  If they were above the traffic they would.</p>
<p>Additionally there&#8217;s a problem with a partially shaded panel.  If it isn&#8217;t isolated with its own dedicated inverter, it pulls down the performance of all the other connected panels.</p>
<p>And I can assure you, the picture you linked is not what I would call &#8216;bumper to bumper&#8217;.  That&#8217;s traffic moving and very spread out compared to what one often experiences in urban areas.  Bumper to bumper is less than one car length between vehicles.  Leave more and someone will pull in front of you.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some bumper to bumper pictures for you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=bumper+to+bumper+traffic&#038;hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;hs=5HZ&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;prmd=ivns&#038;tbm=isch&#038;tbo=u&#038;source=univ&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=rda5TdrkIPPPiALL2JAV&#038;ved=0CDIQsAQ&#038;biw=1147&#038;bih=761" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=bumper+to+bumper+traffic&#038;hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;hs=5HZ&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;prmd=ivns&#038;tbm=isch&#038;tbo=u&#038;source=univ&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=rda5TdrkIPPPiALL2JAV&#038;ved=0CDIQsAQ&#038;biw=1147&#038;bih=761</a></p>
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		<title>By: ragtag</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/25/solar-panels-bike-lanesroads-coming-to-holland/#comment-97629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ragtag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wonder how slippy the surface would be. I&#039;m sure they have thought of this but I&#039;ve not sure two wheels on wet glass is such a good idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wonder how slippy the surface would be. I&#8217;m sure they have thought of this but I&#8217;ve not sure two wheels on wet glass is such a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: ragtag</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/25/solar-panels-bike-lanesroads-coming-to-holland/#comment-97628</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ragtag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve never driven in England, we really get on the bumper]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve never driven in England, we really get on the bumper</p>
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		<title>By: Why Big Solar is a Colossally Bad Idea (10 Reasons Decentralized Solar is Much Better) &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/25/solar-panels-bike-lanesroads-coming-to-holland/#comment-97456</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why Big Solar is a Colossally Bad Idea (10 Reasons Decentralized Solar is Much Better) &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] completely solve our energy issues by covering only a small fraction of it with solar collectors. Add solar collectors built into roads and pathways, and we have all of the space we need to solve the energy crisis for good without clearing any more [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] completely solve our energy issues by covering only a small fraction of it with solar collectors. Add solar collectors built into roads and pathways, and we have all of the space we need to solve the energy crisis for good without clearing any more [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/25/solar-panels-bike-lanesroads-coming-to-holland/#comment-97403</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent! Any technological development that brings attention the incredible versatility of solar power is a good thing in my view. It heralds the day that every home and business is run on solar and wind power.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! Any technological development that brings attention the incredible versatility of solar power is a good thing in my view. It heralds the day that every home and business is run on solar and wind power.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Imagine solar panel covers over the traffic-jammed streets of many Indian cities.  What a relief for all those cycle-rickshaw, auto-rickshaw, and Tata Nano drivers locked in place below.  Not to mention the odd camel and ox....  ;o)

Imagine a system where there was a small electric &#039;bike&#039; up at panel height for the panel dhobi to scoot along cleaning off the dust and pigeon poop.  

Wouldn&#039;t be hard to build in a water supply and recovery system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine solar panel covers over the traffic-jammed streets of many Indian cities.  What a relief for all those cycle-rickshaw, auto-rickshaw, and Tata Nano drivers locked in place below.  Not to mention the odd camel and ox&#8230;.  ;o)</p>
<p>Imagine a system where there was a small electric &#8216;bike&#8217; up at panel height for the panel dhobi to scoot along cleaning off the dust and pigeon poop.  </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t be hard to build in a water supply and recovery system.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Color me doubtful...

This idea has been presented before in terms of solar panels built into roadways.

Put the panels under traffic, bike or cars, and you&#039;ve got more shading issues.  And you&#039;ve got more dirty surface issues.  That top layer is almost certainly going to get scratched which will lower paned efficiency.

Makes more sense to me to put them over parking lots and over streets/highways in hot areas to provide shade.  

Install panels over electric bike parking stands and let the grid provide extra power when needed or soak extra power when available.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Color me doubtful&#8230;</p>
<p>This idea has been presented before in terms of solar panels built into roadways.</p>
<p>Put the panels under traffic, bike or cars, and you&#8217;ve got more shading issues.  And you&#8217;ve got more dirty surface issues.  That top layer is almost certainly going to get scratched which will lower paned efficiency.</p>
<p>Makes more sense to me to put them over parking lots and over streets/highways in hot areas to provide shade.  </p>
<p>Install panels over electric bike parking stands and let the grid provide extra power when needed or soak extra power when available.</p>
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		<title>By: Anumakonda Jagadeesh</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/04/25/solar-panels-bike-lanesroads-coming-to-holland/#comment-97212</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anumakonda Jagadeesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very Innovative approach to utilise solar energy on the roadways. This is possible in countries like Netherlands.Switzerland etc., where the roads are clean. In Developing countries dust across the roads is a big problem especially when vehicles pass by even though these countries experience high solar insolation being in the sunbelt countries.

Dr.A.Jagadeesh  Nellore(AP),India]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very Innovative approach to utilise solar energy on the roadways. This is possible in countries like Netherlands.Switzerland etc., where the roads are clean. In Developing countries dust across the roads is a big problem especially when vehicles pass by even though these countries experience high solar insolation being in the sunbelt countries.</p>
<p>Dr.A.Jagadeesh  Nellore(AP),India</p>
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