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		<title>By: Another Cheap Way to Store Solar and Wind Power &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 21:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Drill, Baby, Drill&#8221; Can Store Gigawatts of Renewable Energy &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
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		<title>By: Anumakonda Jagadeesh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anumakonda Jagadeesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 01:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post Susan Kraemer. Pumped storage is an option for Renewables,
especially for wind, where many times the resource doesn&#039;t match the utility electric loads, pumped storage may be a viable option to add value to the wind or other renewable energy resource. 

Dr.A.Jagadeesh  Nellore(AP),India
Wind Energy Expert
E-mail: anumakonda.jagadeesh@gmail.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Susan Kraemer. Pumped storage is an option for Renewables,<br />
especially for wind, where many times the resource doesn&#8217;t match the utility electric loads, pumped storage may be a viable option to add value to the wind or other renewable energy resource. </p>
<p>Dr.A.Jagadeesh  Nellore(AP),India<br />
Wind Energy Expert<br />
E-mail: <a href="mailto:anumakonda.jagadeesh@gmail.com">anumakonda.jagadeesh@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 04:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for these points, great additions. ]]></description>
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		<title>By: Energy Bags Under the Sea to be Tested to Store Off-Shore Wind &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An important topic. A few points, however:

(1) The article is a little misleading on challenges of licensing pumped storage because it is not reasonable to rely on the two projects that have notoriously been in that process for so long (Eagle Mountain and Lake Elsinore). These projects were conceived at a time when the market for pumped storage was poor, so part of their delay is attributable to market conditions rather than to the FERC licensing process. Also, these projects have some elements that make them more complex, such as Lake Elsinore&#039;s dependency on a 35-mile transmission line through a national forest. 

(2) The article omitted mention of the newly introduced Hydropower Improvement Act, which has bipartisan support, and one clause of which asks FERC to shorten the licensing process for low-impact process to two years.

(3) The concept of closed-loop pumped storage was actually brought to the market by Peak Power Corporation back in the early 1990&#039;s. The firm filed with FERC for a dozen smaller, &quot;modular&quot; pumped storage projects that would not utilize natural waterways. But the market, again, wasn&#039;t receptive at the time.

(4) There are many new closed-loop projects being introduced for purposes of integrating renewable resources, including twelve from Gridflex Energy, LLC. Each site is unique and each will be on its own timeline. With smart site selection, smaller, compact sites, and a faster-paced timeline, Gridflex believes that its projects could be online within 8 years, possibly sooner. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An important topic. A few points, however:</p>
<p>(1) The article is a little misleading on challenges of licensing pumped storage because it is not reasonable to rely on the two projects that have notoriously been in that process for so long (Eagle Mountain and Lake Elsinore). These projects were conceived at a time when the market for pumped storage was poor, so part of their delay is attributable to market conditions rather than to the FERC licensing process. Also, these projects have some elements that make them more complex, such as Lake Elsinore&#8217;s dependency on a 35-mile transmission line through a national forest. </p>
<p>(2) The article omitted mention of the newly introduced Hydropower Improvement Act, which has bipartisan support, and one clause of which asks FERC to shorten the licensing process for low-impact process to two years.</p>
<p>(3) The concept of closed-loop pumped storage was actually brought to the market by Peak Power Corporation back in the early 1990&#8217;s. The firm filed with FERC for a dozen smaller, &#8220;modular&#8221; pumped storage projects that would not utilize natural waterways. But the market, again, wasn&#8217;t receptive at the time.</p>
<p>(4) There are many new closed-loop projects being introduced for purposes of integrating renewable resources, including twelve from Gridflex Energy, LLC. Each site is unique and each will be on its own timeline. With smart site selection, smaller, compact sites, and a faster-paced timeline, Gridflex believes that its projects could be online within 8 years, possibly sooner. </p>
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