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		<title>By: Republican War on Light Bulbs Could Revive in September</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/13/light-bulb-battle-heats-up-and-we-should-care-because/#comment-110886</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Republican War on Light Bulbs Could Revive in September]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]     Last year, House Republicans waged a Star Wars-worthy battle to stop a federal law that sets new energy efficiency standards for light bulbs, but it seems they have little to show for all that Sturm und Drang. Lighting manufacturers have [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;]     Last year, House Republicans waged a Star Wars-worthy battle to stop a federal law that sets new energy efficiency standards for light bulbs, but it seems they have little to show for all that Sturm und Drang. Lighting manufacturers have [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: New LED Lightbulb Under $15 Hits the Market, May Go Lower &#124; CleanTechnica</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New LED Lightbulb Under $15 Hits the Market, May Go Lower &#124; CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in Consumer Technology, Energy Efficiency  nRelate.domain=&quot;cleantechnica.com&quot;;The days of using lightbulbs as a political football may be drawing to a swift and un-melodramatic close, now that the company Lighting Science Group [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] in Consumer Technology, Energy Efficiency  nRelate.domain=&quot;cleantechnica.com&quot;;The days of using lightbulbs as a political football may be drawing to a swift and un-melodramatic close, now that the company Lighting Science Group [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Bonehead Barton Bulb Bill Bulletin: Lighting Leader Lauds Luminary Law &#171; Climate Denial Crock of the Week</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bonehead Barton Bulb Bill Bulletin: Lighting Leader Lauds Luminary Law &#171; Climate Denial Crock of the Week]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] all that fire and brimstone over the impending phase-out of incandescent light bulbs, lighting giant Philips has stepped in to pour oil on troubled waters. The company has just [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] all that fire and brimstone over the impending phase-out of incandescent light bulbs, lighting giant Philips has stepped in to pour oil on troubled waters. The company has just [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Zombie Light Bulb Legislation Rises from the Dead &#124; CleanTechnica</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zombie Light Bulb Legislation Rises from the Dead &#124; CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 03:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Should Care Because&#8230;?Considering how quickly U.S. manufacturers and consumers are adapting to new lighting technologies that save money, it does seem a little odd that the majority party in the House is spending so much [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Should Care Because&#8230;?Considering how quickly U.S. manufacturers and consumers are adapting to new lighting technologies that save money, it does seem a little odd that the majority party in the House is spending so much [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Broken-Hearted Lawmakers Just Can&#8217;t Quit Incandescent Light Bulbs &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/13/light-bulb-battle-heats-up-and-we-should-care-because/#comment-101546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Broken-Hearted Lawmakers Just Can&#8217;t Quit Incandescent Light Bulbs &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 01:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of widespread incandescent light bulb hoarding, some federal legislators have also latched onto the light bulb issue and are pushing for a repeal of the new energy efficiency standards. Seems like a weird way to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] of widespread incandescent light bulb hoarding, some federal legislators have also latched onto the light bulb issue and are pushing for a repeal of the new energy efficiency standards. Seems like a weird way to [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Sears Canada Bans Inefficient Lighting, Moves to LEDs &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/13/light-bulb-battle-heats-up-and-we-should-care-because/#comment-100762</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sears Canada Bans Inefficient Lighting, Moves to LEDs &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Light Bulb Battle Heats Up and We Should Care Because…? [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Philips Gets the Last Laugh on Light Bulb Wars &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philips Gets the Last Laugh on Light Bulb Wars &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] all that fire and brimstone over the impending phase-out of incandescent light bulbs, lighting giant Philips has stepped in to pour oil on troubled waters. The company has just [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] all that fire and brimstone over the impending phase-out of incandescent light bulbs, lighting giant Philips has stepped in to pour oil on troubled waters. The company has just [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Tina Casey</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/13/light-bulb-battle-heats-up-and-we-should-care-because/#comment-95589</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Casey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lighthouse, thank you for your comment, but you are misreading the legislation. It applies to manufacturers, not consumers. Manufacturers were asked to meet new efficiency standards using any technology that would get the job done. They decided that it was not worth the investment in R&amp;D to develop advanced incandescent technology that could meet the new standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lighthouse, thank you for your comment, but you are misreading the legislation. It applies to manufacturers, not consumers. Manufacturers were asked to meet new efficiency standards using any technology that would get the job done. They decided that it was not worth the investment in R&amp;D to develop advanced incandescent technology that could meet the new standards.</p>
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		<title>By: lighthouse</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/13/light-bulb-battle-heats-up-and-we-should-care-because/#comment-95576</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lighthouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Heather (in comment),
and I think the overall picture of &quot;avoiding energy waste&quot; is being lost here.

CFLs, LEDs etc certainly have their advantages -
but the &quot;switch all your lights and save lots of money&quot; campaigns are like
saying &quot;Eat only bananas and save lots of money!&quot;
Regular cheap incandescents have their advantages too. 

It is a light bulb &quot;ban&quot; that&#039;s coming:
Any light bulb not meeting the energy usage standard is banned.
Yes, energy efficient halogen incandescent replacements are allowed, but
still have some constructional and appearance differences, a whiter light output etc compared with regular bulbs, apart from
costing much more for the small savings, which is why neither
consumers or governments really like them, since they have been around for a while now without being sold much.

No light bulbs should be banned:
There is no present or future shortage of energy sources for electricity justifying telling what paying consumers can use,
especially since the overall USA energy savings from light bulb regulations are less than 1% anyway,
based on the US Dept of Energy&#039;s own statistics ( http://ceolas.net/#li171x )
-remember that politicians keep including non-incandescent street and industrial lighting in the usual high US usage percentages quoted.

Much greater, and much more relevant, energy waste savings arise from effectively organized electricity generation and grid distribution, and from reducing the unnecessary use of appliances:
rather than from stopping people in their choice of what appliance to buy and  use.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Heather (in comment),<br />
and I think the overall picture of &#8220;avoiding energy waste&#8221; is being lost here.</p>
<p>CFLs, LEDs etc certainly have their advantages &#8211;<br />
but the &#8220;switch all your lights and save lots of money&#8221; campaigns are like<br />
saying &#8220;Eat only bananas and save lots of money!&#8221;<br />
Regular cheap incandescents have their advantages too. </p>
<p>It is a light bulb &#8220;ban&#8221; that&#8217;s coming:<br />
Any light bulb not meeting the energy usage standard is banned.<br />
Yes, energy efficient halogen incandescent replacements are allowed, but<br />
still have some constructional and appearance differences, a whiter light output etc compared with regular bulbs, apart from<br />
costing much more for the small savings, which is why neither<br />
consumers or governments really like them, since they have been around for a while now without being sold much.</p>
<p>No light bulbs should be banned:<br />
There is no present or future shortage of energy sources for electricity justifying telling what paying consumers can use,<br />
especially since the overall USA energy savings from light bulb regulations are less than 1% anyway,<br />
based on the US Dept of Energy&#8217;s own statistics ( <a href="http://ceolas.net/#li171x" rel="nofollow">http://ceolas.net/#li171x</a> )<br />
-remember that politicians keep including non-incandescent street and industrial lighting in the usual high US usage percentages quoted.</p>
<p>Much greater, and much more relevant, energy waste savings arise from effectively organized electricity generation and grid distribution, and from reducing the unnecessary use of appliances:<br />
rather than from stopping people in their choice of what appliance to buy and  use.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina Casey</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/13/light-bulb-battle-heats-up-and-we-should-care-because/#comment-95282</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Casey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian, yes that&#039;s the idea. The &quot;legacy&quot; lighting companies can see the writing on the wall - there is no growth in the global market for incandescents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, yes that&#8217;s the idea. The &#8220;legacy&#8221; lighting companies can see the writing on the wall &#8211; there is no growth in the global market for incandescents.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian P</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/13/light-bulb-battle-heats-up-and-we-should-care-because/#comment-95276</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LEDs may have a high upfront cost, but even at the current price, they&#039;re way cheaper than hoarding incandescents (energy costs+light bulb costs) over time.

Also, I think back-tracking on the incandescent phase-out is pointless. Most companies are already focusing on efficient lighting and all the big players have to meet the standards in europe/asia anyways. I think companies also realize as soon as the tea party is ousted the phase-out would go right back into effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LEDs may have a high upfront cost, but even at the current price, they&#8217;re way cheaper than hoarding incandescents (energy costs+light bulb costs) over time.</p>
<p>Also, I think back-tracking on the incandescent phase-out is pointless. Most companies are already focusing on efficient lighting and all the big players have to meet the standards in europe/asia anyways. I think companies also realize as soon as the tea party is ousted the phase-out would go right back into effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina Casey</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/13/light-bulb-battle-heats-up-and-we-should-care-because/#comment-95258</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Casey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 22:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Heather for that insightful comment. There are no perfect alternatives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Heather for that insightful comment. There are no perfect alternatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/13/light-bulb-battle-heats-up-and-we-should-care-because/#comment-95253</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am all for energy conservation, but not at the cost of exposing my family to the high levels of Electromagnetic Frequencies (EMF) emitted by CFLs  and potentially to extremely toxic mercury. Just because most households already expose themselves to lots of toxic substances doesn&#039;t mean they should have to add ONE MORE toxic product to their home. My family uses no pesticides, eats organic, uses only natural cleaning and cosmetic products and will have nothing to do with CFLs in our home. We are phasing in LEDs in some areas and hoping the prices of LEDs go down soon. If needed, we will be incandescent hoarders.
Also, what&#039;s to become of the ever increasing amounts of mercury going into landfills as a result of CFL use and disposal? You can&#039;t believe that the average american household is really going to take their old bulbs to recycling centers, can you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all for energy conservation, but not at the cost of exposing my family to the high levels of Electromagnetic Frequencies (EMF) emitted by CFLs  and potentially to extremely toxic mercury. Just because most households already expose themselves to lots of toxic substances doesn&#8217;t mean they should have to add ONE MORE toxic product to their home. My family uses no pesticides, eats organic, uses only natural cleaning and cosmetic products and will have nothing to do with CFLs in our home. We are phasing in LEDs in some areas and hoping the prices of LEDs go down soon. If needed, we will be incandescent hoarders.<br />
Also, what&#8217;s to become of the ever increasing amounts of mercury going into landfills as a result of CFL use and disposal? You can&#8217;t believe that the average american household is really going to take their old bulbs to recycling centers, can you?</p>
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