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		<title>By: Strategy Consulting &#124; Renewable Energy &#124; Riverview Consulting</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/05/how-denmark-will-integrate-50-wind-power-by-2025/#comment-99059</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Strategy Consulting &#124; Renewable Energy &#124; Riverview Consulting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 19:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and countries that have 20% or more wind power over the course of a full year — Iowa for one; Denmark and Northern Germany for another. And, in some of these places, wind accounts for 50% or even 100% [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] and countries that have 20% or more wind power over the course of a full year — Iowa for one; Denmark and Northern Germany for another. And, in some of these places, wind accounts for 50% or even 100% [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Wind Intermittency is NOT a Big Deal &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 18:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Why Wind Intermittency is NOT a Big Deal &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 14:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hummm.......

Two days left in &quot;later this month&quot; and nothing in the news so far.

There was an EU energy summit in early February.  I see nothing on line about one in March.

Pons and Fleishman ring a bell with anyone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hummm&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Two days left in &#8220;later this month&#8221; and nothing in the news so far.</p>
<p>There was an EU energy summit in early February.  I see nothing on line about one in March.</p>
<p>Pons and Fleishman ring a bell with anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: johnmarshall</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/05/how-denmark-will-integrate-50-wind-power-by-2025/#comment-94997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnmarshall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this column is a good illustration of why there is no one size fits all solution in the world.  Denmark, lacking any natural resources to exploit, will do well with wind energy, rather than being at the mercy of importing fossil fuels.  In the US it is far more difficult for wind energy to compete on price with nat gas and coal which are in abundance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this column is a good illustration of why there is no one size fits all solution in the world.  Denmark, lacking any natural resources to exploit, will do well with wind energy, rather than being at the mercy of importing fossil fuels.  In the US it is far more difficult for wind energy to compete on price with nat gas and coal which are in abundance.</p>
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		<title>By: mesion kogali</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mesion kogali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its not only Denmark that must change. The whole world must ... and will. Energy prices will soon drop! Cold Fusion is hot. It is expected to have international awareness probably by the EU Summit later this month. 

Yes, it really is a reality! 

According to Andrea Rossi and his Energy Catalyzer, which he presented to a closed group in Italy, January 15th, despite lack of theoretical knowledge, the results of one unit in and twenty units out, is outstanding. 

Links to www.lenr-canr.org, www.peswiki.com, www.nyteknik.com, www.talefta.blogspot.com, journal-of-nuclear-science.com are a good start to read up. 

Official comments can be obtained.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not only Denmark that must change. The whole world must &#8230; and will. Energy prices will soon drop! Cold Fusion is hot. It is expected to have international awareness probably by the EU Summit later this month. </p>
<p>Yes, it really is a reality! </p>
<p>According to Andrea Rossi and his Energy Catalyzer, which he presented to a closed group in Italy, January 15th, despite lack of theoretical knowledge, the results of one unit in and twenty units out, is outstanding. </p>
<p>Links to <a href="http://www.lenr-canr.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.lenr-canr.org</a>, <a href="http://www.peswiki.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.peswiki.com</a>, <a href="http://www.nyteknik.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyteknik.com</a>, <a href="http://www.talefta.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.talefta.blogspot.com</a>, journal-of-nuclear-science.com are a good start to read up. </p>
<p>Official comments can be obtained.</p>
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		<title>By: Another ARPA-E Winner: General Compression&#8217;s Renewable Energy Storage Ramps Up in 30 Seconds &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/05/how-denmark-will-integrate-50-wind-power-by-2025/#comment-94958</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 13:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Andrew, 
so it is not Danish wind being exported so much as Danish fossil power! Sorry I missed that - very long pdf...

That really changes the argument used here against wind, that we shouldn&#039;t add any because it &quot;has to be exported.&quot; 
(Watch the argument change to &quot;fossil fuel is the real money-maker as it can be consistently exported&quot; !!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew,<br />
so it is not Danish wind being exported so much as Danish fossil power! Sorry I missed that &#8211; very long pdf&#8230;</p>
<p>That really changes the argument used here against wind, that we shouldn&#8217;t add any because it &#8220;has to be exported.&#8221;<br />
(Watch the argument change to &#8220;fossil fuel is the real money-maker as it can be consistently exported&#8221; !!)</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.A.Jagadeesh</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/03/05/how-denmark-will-integrate-50-wind-power-by-2025/#comment-94953</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr.A.Jagadeesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes. It is possible. Infact Denmark was once leading in Wind after US. Then Germany and Spain surpassed. I worked in Wind Energy in Denmark and I know how Wind Farm Co-operatives there operate Wind Turbines.


Denmark’s Energy Plan 2025•Foresees stabilisation of energy consumption•Increasing renewable contribution to 30% of demand–Across all sectors•A high fraction of renewable energy will be wind power that is intendeddisplace imported coal and gas in the electricity sector•Wind generated hydrogen used in transport can displace oilSuccessful implementation will demand new thinking and new techniques.


West Denmark has the World’s highest wind capacity, kW per capita

•West Denmark0.88 kW
•Ireland (end 2006)0.34 kW
•Spain0.34kW
•Germany0.22 kW


Measures announced are consumer-friendly

•East –West inter-connector will deliver up to 600 MW more wind power to East Denmark
–Which has less wind capacity because it blows less
•Use of over-flow electricity to provide district heating
–Will save fuel and CO2emissions
•Demand will be encouraged at periods of high wind output…
–…by demand-side pricing
–…saving fossil generation and/or imports across the inter-connectors.


EveryMWh of Danish wind power is subsidized by the Danish consumer...
•Wind energy that is exported at a low spot price exports both subsidy ANDCO2emission reductions directly to Norwegian, Swedish and German consumers
•...whereas every MWh of wind energy consumed insideDenmark ”returns the subsidy to the consumer”, saves fuel imports and really reduces Danish CO2emissions(Source:.incoteco,VRB Power Systems).


Dr.A.Jagadeesh  Nellore(AP),India
Wind Energy Expert
E-mail: anumakonda.jagadeesh@gmail.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. It is possible. Infact Denmark was once leading in Wind after US. Then Germany and Spain surpassed. I worked in Wind Energy in Denmark and I know how Wind Farm Co-operatives there operate Wind Turbines.</p>
<p>Denmark’s Energy Plan 2025•Foresees stabilisation of energy consumption•Increasing renewable contribution to 30% of demand–Across all sectors•A high fraction of renewable energy will be wind power that is intendeddisplace imported coal and gas in the electricity sector•Wind generated hydrogen used in transport can displace oilSuccessful implementation will demand new thinking and new techniques.</p>
<p>West Denmark has the World’s highest wind capacity, kW per capita</p>
<p>•West Denmark0.88 kW<br />
•Ireland (end 2006)0.34 kW<br />
•Spain0.34kW<br />
•Germany0.22 kW</p>
<p>Measures announced are consumer-friendly</p>
<p>•East –West inter-connector will deliver up to 600 MW more wind power to East Denmark<br />
–Which has less wind capacity because it blows less<br />
•Use of over-flow electricity to provide district heating<br />
–Will save fuel and CO2emissions<br />
•Demand will be encouraged at periods of high wind output…<br />
–…by demand-side pricing<br />
–…saving fossil generation and/or imports across the inter-connectors.</p>
<p>EveryMWh of Danish wind power is subsidized by the Danish consumer&#8230;<br />
•Wind energy that is exported at a low spot price exports both subsidy ANDCO2emission reductions directly to Norwegian, Swedish and German consumers<br />
•&#8230;whereas every MWh of wind energy consumed insideDenmark ”returns the subsidy to the consumer”, saves fuel imports and really reduces Danish CO2emissions(Source:.incoteco,VRB Power Systems).</p>
<p>Dr.A.Jagadeesh  Nellore(AP),India<br />
Wind Energy Expert<br />
E-mail: <a href="mailto:anumakonda.jagadeesh@gmail.com">anumakonda.jagadeesh@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello there, and thanks for the coverage (I&#039;m the author).

Re hydro fluctuations and exports: there are at least two separate things going on, at different timescales - please allow me to distinguish them.

1) At the minute-by-minute level, Denmark exports its variations in wind, but even more so it exports its variations in demand, to its neighbours who, as Bill Woods says, can turn their hydro up and down quickly.

2) At the year-by-year level, when Norway/Sweden/Finland have had a dry year, then they import a lot of power, including from Denmark - so Denmark&#039;s electricity exports have a large spike lasting many months, driven by the higher prices from their neighbours. These exports come from thermal plant (biomass, coal, gas) that runs higher and longer because it&#039;s profitable for them to do so.

Being part of a larger system is a very good way to integrate lots of renewables: wider geographic dispersion smooths variability (see papers by Hannele Holttinen and Gregor Czisch for details). ISTM that the Tres Amigas project is a key element in American energy security, for this very reason. Each new  interconnector, contributes to the grid at each end of it becoming a small part of a larger grid. It&#039;s one of the most economically efficient ways to deliver energy security, and the world will move increasingly towards (multi-)continental-scale grids.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello there, and thanks for the coverage (I&#8217;m the author).</p>
<p>Re hydro fluctuations and exports: there are at least two separate things going on, at different timescales &#8211; please allow me to distinguish them.</p>
<p>1) At the minute-by-minute level, Denmark exports its variations in wind, but even more so it exports its variations in demand, to its neighbours who, as Bill Woods says, can turn their hydro up and down quickly.</p>
<p>2) At the year-by-year level, when Norway/Sweden/Finland have had a dry year, then they import a lot of power, including from Denmark &#8211; so Denmark&#8217;s electricity exports have a large spike lasting many months, driven by the higher prices from their neighbours. These exports come from thermal plant (biomass, coal, gas) that runs higher and longer because it&#8217;s profitable for them to do so.</p>
<p>Being part of a larger system is a very good way to integrate lots of renewables: wider geographic dispersion smooths variability (see papers by Hannele Holttinen and Gregor Czisch for details). ISTM that the Tres Amigas project is a key element in American energy security, for this very reason. Each new  interconnector, contributes to the grid at each end of it becoming a small part of a larger grid. It&#8217;s one of the most economically efficient ways to deliver energy security, and the world will move increasingly towards (multi-)continental-scale grids.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael White</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 01:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is definitely very good! I hope they accomplish this goal sooner than latter. Good for the Danes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is definitely very good! I hope they accomplish this goal sooner than latter. Good for the Danes!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 01:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bill, yes, I know hydro can also be tamped on demand when needed, (like now in BPA) but according to this study, in this case it was dry weather in the neighboring countries that caused a reduction in hydro production - that made exporting wind more attractive, (higher prices over the border). The Himalayas also are having hydro power reduction for drought reasons. So it can be both.

I don&#039;t agree with comparing a nation with just one (productive) county in Texas. It is more like countries in the EU are comparable with states in the US, where it is a bit easier to count production and consumption than in counties. The interconnections are not between between counties in Texas. That is how we can definitively say that Iowa produces 20% of its power from wind, that Texas makes more wind power than Germany, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill, yes, I know hydro can also be tamped on demand when needed, (like now in BPA) but according to this study, in this case it was dry weather in the neighboring countries that caused a reduction in hydro production &#8211; that made exporting wind more attractive, (higher prices over the border). The Himalayas also are having hydro power reduction for drought reasons. So it can be both.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with comparing a nation with just one (productive) county in Texas. It is more like countries in the EU are comparable with states in the US, where it is a bit easier to count production and consumption than in counties. The interconnections are not between between counties in Texas. That is how we can definitively say that Iowa produces 20% of its power from wind, that Texas makes more wind power than Germany, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saying &quot;Denmark gets 20% of its energy from wind power&quot; is like saying Nolan County, Texas gets 99.44% of its energy from wind power. It ignores the fact that they are both parts of much larger systems, of which the wind fraction of generating capacity is much smaller. 

&quot;[W]ind generation ... balances variations in demand in neighboring countries, due to fluctuating hydro power in neighboring countries.&quot;
This is confusing cause and effect. Hydro power fluctuates on command, to follow variability in wind power and demand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying &#8220;Denmark gets 20% of its energy from wind power&#8221; is like saying Nolan County, Texas gets 99.44% of its energy from wind power. It ignores the fact that they are both parts of much larger systems, of which the wind fraction of generating capacity is much smaller. </p>
<p>&#8220;[W]ind generation &#8230; balances variations in demand in neighboring countries, due to fluctuating hydro power in neighboring countries.&#8221;<br />
This is confusing cause and effect. Hydro power fluctuates on command, to follow variability in wind power and demand.</p>
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