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	<title>Comments on: Presidential Candidate Ron Paul Takes On Hard Issue, Light Bulbs!</title>
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		<title>By: Dcard88</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-117505</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dcard88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CF&#039;s have been dimmable for more than 5 years.  You should get out more.  LED&#039;s are not noisy.  CF&#039;s are cheap and LED&#039;s are getting cheaper.  By the end of 2013, LED&#039;s will go in ALL new housing designs.  Getting rid of incandescents is one of the easiest calls ever made. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CF&#8217;s have been dimmable for more than 5 years.  You should get out more.  LED&#8217;s are not noisy.  CF&#8217;s are cheap and LED&#8217;s are getting cheaper.  By the end of 2013, LED&#8217;s will go in ALL new housing designs.  Getting rid of incandescents is one of the easiest calls ever made. </p>
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		<title>By: Broken-Hearted Lawmakers Just Can&#8217;t Quit Incandescent Light Bulbs &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Broken-Hearted Lawmakers Just Can&#8217;t Quit Incandescent Light Bulbs &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a line from a spokesperson for the American Lighting Association. While certain legislators may carry a torch for incandescent tech, the bulb manufacturing industry has already &#8220;moved on down the road&#8221; to more [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] a line from a spokesperson for the American Lighting Association. While certain legislators may carry a torch for incandescent tech, the bulb manufacturing industry has already &#8220;moved on down the road&#8221; to more [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Philips Gets the Last Laugh on Light Bulb Wars &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-96710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philips Gets the Last Laugh on Light Bulb Wars &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 13:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] that the dust has settled, it looks like certain light bulb loving politicians are due for their Emily Litella moment, as in, &#8220;Never mind.&#8221; Click [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] that the dust has settled, it looks like certain light bulb loving politicians are due for their Emily Litella moment, as in, &#8220;Never mind.&#8221; Click [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: LED Light Manufacturer Brings New Green Jobs to Texas &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-95058</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LED Light Manufacturer Brings New Green Jobs to Texas &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the U.S. gears up for the forthcoming phaseout of incandescent light bulbs, two schools of action are emerging. One, spearheaded by Texas Congressmen Joe Barton and Ron Paul, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the U.S. gears up for the forthcoming phaseout of incandescent light bulbs, two schools of action are emerging. One, spearheaded by Texas Congressmen Joe Barton and Ron Paul, [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94800</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wjv - This is pretty much exactly how most of the regulations are put.  For example, California is aiming to establish a minimum standard of 25 lumens per watt by 2013 and 60 lumens per watt by 2018.  U.S. Federal legislation will require general-purpose bulbs to produce at least 45 lumens per watt (similar to current CFLs) by 2020.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wjv &#8211; This is pretty much exactly how most of the regulations are put.  For example, California is aiming to establish a minimum standard of 25 lumens per watt by 2013 and 60 lumens per watt by 2018.  U.S. Federal legislation will require general-purpose bulbs to produce at least 45 lumens per watt (similar to current CFLs) by 2020.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94796</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Manigandan Velumani,

The problem here is that there is no possibility of a truly &quot;free market&quot; in the real world. Theoretically, we can create one, but not in reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manigandan Velumani,</p>
<p>The problem here is that there is no possibility of a truly &#8220;free market&#8221; in the real world. Theoretically, we can create one, but not in reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt, if it isn&#039;t clear yet, the commons we are referring to is not electricity. it is the air, water, and a livable climate.

As Aaron stated above, “If what we do does not harm or bother other peoples’ fundamental rights to life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness, then who cares?” Our use of coal and other fossil fuels is directly harming people and even causing their death NOW (this is why such measures are needed)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, if it isn&#8217;t clear yet, the commons we are referring to is not electricity. it is the air, water, and a livable climate.</p>
<p>As Aaron stated above, “If what we do does not harm or bother other peoples’ fundamental rights to life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness, then who cares?” Our use of coal and other fossil fuels is directly harming people and even causing their death NOW (this is why such measures are needed)</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aaron, your statement at the end as to when the govt can step in is directly in line with what i was talking about. &quot;If what we do does not harm or bother other peoples’ fundamental rights to life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness, then who cares?&quot; Our use of coal and other fossil fuels is directly harming people and even causing their death NOW (this is why such measures are needed)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, your statement at the end as to when the govt can step in is directly in line with what i was talking about. &#8220;If what we do does not harm or bother other peoples’ fundamental rights to life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness, then who cares?&#8221; Our use of coal and other fossil fuels is directly harming people and even causing their death NOW (this is why such measures are needed)</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94793</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[energy efficiency legislation is good for business. truthfully]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>energy efficiency legislation is good for business. truthfully</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Justin, dozens upon dozens of people expressed your opinion. &amp; i responded so many times that they started trashing me for &quot;copy &amp; pasting.&quot; YOu don&#039;t have to scroll through 200 comments. read 5 &amp; you&#039;ll probably see responses to you concerns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, dozens upon dozens of people expressed your opinion. &#038; i responded so many times that they started trashing me for &#8220;copy &#038; pasting.&#8221; YOu don&#8217;t have to scroll through 200 comments. read 5 &#038; you&#8217;ll probably see responses to you concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94791</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i back laws for both, Matt, bcs we&#039;re going to be using a ton of coal for quite awhile longer and energy efficiency is an easy &amp; quick way to help lessen its impact]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i back laws for both, Matt, bcs we&#8217;re going to be using a ton of coal for quite awhile longer and energy efficiency is an easy &#038; quick way to help lessen its impact</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94790</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i agree with your commentary here. thanks for the contribution. however, i don&#039;t think there will ever be an incandescent breakthrough that can bring the technology up to par with CFLs or fast-improving LEDs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with your commentary here. thanks for the contribution. however, i don&#8217;t think there will ever be an incandescent breakthrough that can bring the technology up to par with CFLs or fast-improving LEDs</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94789</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for the inside GE update (which i&#039;m sure people jumped on purely for political reasons)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the inside GE update (which i&#8217;m sure people jumped on purely for political reasons)</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94788</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aliks, you are completely wrong and don&#039;t even attribute the &quot;commons&quot; to the right thing. look it up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aliks, you are completely wrong and don&#8217;t even attribute the &#8220;commons&#8221; to the right thing. look it up</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Faus, as for the latter part, i&#039;ve responded to that many times on here now. as for the first part: the science is clear, considerable climate change is happening and it is being primarily (if not entirely) caused by humans, as the overarching scientific bodies in the U.S. and the UK have confirmed (http://planetsave.com/2010/05/07/255-leading-scientists-11-nobel-laureates-write-letter-supporting-climate-scientists-climate-science/ ; http://planetsave.com/2010/12/02/hellish-world-2060/ ; http://planetsave.com/2010/11/22/top-10-climate-science-news-of-2010/ ; http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/13/science-met-office-and-royal-society-on-the-connection-between-global-warming-and-extreme-weather/ ; http://climateprogress.org/2010/11/09/royal-society-rate-of-species-extinctions-far-exceeds-anything-in-the-fossil-recordo/ ; http://climateprogress.org/2010/04/19/global-warming-link-volcanoes-earthquakes-landslides-tsunamis-royal-society-scientists/).

&amp; while there are a few Democrats fighting the clear science, the Republican party as a whole is doing so, even several Republicans who previously had a completely diff view of the matter. they&#039;ve been forced to stand in line]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faus, as for the latter part, i&#8217;ve responded to that many times on here now. as for the first part: the science is clear, considerable climate change is happening and it is being primarily (if not entirely) caused by humans, as the overarching scientific bodies in the U.S. and the UK have confirmed (<a href="http://planetsave.com/2010/05/07/255-leading-scientists-11-nobel-laureates-write-letter-supporting-climate-scientists-climate-science/" rel="nofollow">http://planetsave.com/2010/05/07/255-leading-scientists-11-nobel-laureates-write-letter-supporting-climate-scientists-climate-science/</a> ; <a href="http://planetsave.com/2010/12/02/hellish-world-2060/" rel="nofollow">http://planetsave.com/2010/12/02/hellish-world-2060/</a> ; <a href="http://planetsave.com/2010/11/22/top-10-climate-science-news-of-2010/" rel="nofollow">http://planetsave.com/2010/11/22/top-10-climate-science-news-of-2010/</a> ; <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/13/science-met-office-and-royal-society-on-the-connection-between-global-warming-and-extreme-weather/" rel="nofollow">http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/13/science-met-office-and-royal-society-on-the-connection-between-global-warming-and-extreme-weather/</a> ; <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2010/11/09/royal-society-rate-of-species-extinctions-far-exceeds-anything-in-the-fossil-recordo/" rel="nofollow">http://climateprogress.org/2010/11/09/royal-society-rate-of-species-extinctions-far-exceeds-anything-in-the-fossil-recordo/</a> ; <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2010/04/19/global-warming-link-volcanoes-earthquakes-landslides-tsunamis-royal-society-scientists/" rel="nofollow">http://climateprogress.org/2010/04/19/global-warming-link-volcanoes-earthquakes-landslides-tsunamis-royal-society-scientists/</a>).</p>
<p>&#038; while there are a few Democrats fighting the clear science, the Republican party as a whole is doing so, even several Republicans who previously had a completely diff view of the matter. they&#8217;ve been forced to stand in line</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94786</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt, i completely disagree with you. &amp; have responded to these issues dozens of times now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, i completely disagree with you. &#038; have responded to these issues dozens of times now.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94751</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe, while you should take sensible precautions, you needn’t panic about the mercury from a CFL.  A small amount of mercury is essential to how all fluorescent lamps work (both CFLs and ‘long tubes’).  It allows the arc to form that produces the UV that energizes the phosphors that give off light.  Slow warm up is due to the mercury evaporating inside the bulb.  The quantity in a CFL lamp is very small, perhaps one hundredth or thousandth of what is in a mercury-filled thermometer, or an old pinball machine tilt switch.  There is much more in a large tube, and greater care should be taken handling these.

The white powder that comes from the bulb is not mercury, but most likely the phosphors that coat the inside of the glass tube.  These are various inorganic compounds and binders, and while they shouldn’t be ingested in quantity, they are not particularly harmful.  There will also be broken glass, and of course you should protect your child from the obvious hazard of the glass fragments.  There may be some dust from the ceramic cement used to secure the tube into its holder, which is inert.

Depending on temperature, the mercury will either be in the form of a shiny metallic residue on the inside of the glass, or as vapor in the filling gas.  Therefore, if this is released, you should leave and ventilate the room (just open the window).  Rather than using a vacuum cleaner to pick up the debris, use a damp cloth.  You might wish to wear gloves, if only to protect your fingers from the broken glass, but a hazmat suit is not needed.  Avoid exposure by anyone who is pregnant or very young; this is man’s work.

There is much less mercury released into the environment than there used to be.  Alternative materials are available for dental amalgam, thermometers, barometers, tilt sensors, batteries, grain dressings, ointments, scientific instruments, mining processes, and so on.   Your child will grow up being exposed to less mercury than we were.

Reducing electricity consumption by using low energy lamps reduces emissions from coal-fired power stations, which are a source of environmental mercury.

More from the EPA at http://epa.gov/hg/, http://epa.gov/cfl/ and specifically http://epa.gov/cfl/cflcleanup.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, while you should take sensible precautions, you needn’t panic about the mercury from a CFL.  A small amount of mercury is essential to how all fluorescent lamps work (both CFLs and ‘long tubes’).  It allows the arc to form that produces the UV that energizes the phosphors that give off light.  Slow warm up is due to the mercury evaporating inside the bulb.  The quantity in a CFL lamp is very small, perhaps one hundredth or thousandth of what is in a mercury-filled thermometer, or an old pinball machine tilt switch.  There is much more in a large tube, and greater care should be taken handling these.</p>
<p>The white powder that comes from the bulb is not mercury, but most likely the phosphors that coat the inside of the glass tube.  These are various inorganic compounds and binders, and while they shouldn’t be ingested in quantity, they are not particularly harmful.  There will also be broken glass, and of course you should protect your child from the obvious hazard of the glass fragments.  There may be some dust from the ceramic cement used to secure the tube into its holder, which is inert.</p>
<p>Depending on temperature, the mercury will either be in the form of a shiny metallic residue on the inside of the glass, or as vapor in the filling gas.  Therefore, if this is released, you should leave and ventilate the room (just open the window).  Rather than using a vacuum cleaner to pick up the debris, use a damp cloth.  You might wish to wear gloves, if only to protect your fingers from the broken glass, but a hazmat suit is not needed.  Avoid exposure by anyone who is pregnant or very young; this is man’s work.</p>
<p>There is much less mercury released into the environment than there used to be.  Alternative materials are available for dental amalgam, thermometers, barometers, tilt sensors, batteries, grain dressings, ointments, scientific instruments, mining processes, and so on.   Your child will grow up being exposed to less mercury than we were.</p>
<p>Reducing electricity consumption by using low energy lamps reduces emissions from coal-fired power stations, which are a source of environmental mercury.</p>
<p>More from the EPA at <a href="http://epa.gov/hg/" rel="nofollow">http://epa.gov/hg/</a>, <a href="http://epa.gov/cfl/" rel="nofollow">http://epa.gov/cfl/</a> and specifically <a href="http://epa.gov/cfl/cflcleanup.html" rel="nofollow">http://epa.gov/cfl/cflcleanup.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Zachary,
Here are the facts in a nutshell.  If you do not agree with this logic, you should be prepared to live in a country where people are willing  to fight for reason.  

If 70% of the US population are happy with CF bulbs then, in theory, they’d be buying them.  What this law impedes is the manufacture of light bulbs for a minority of people who want them.  Somewhere there’s a girl with an easybake oven, somewhere there’s a guy with a dimmer switch (CF’s don’t work with dimmers), somewhere there’s a designer who doesn’t like the look of CF’s, somewhere there’s a recording studio that can’t have the ballast in the CF’s near their microphones.
  
Ultimately, there are tons of reasons why people might need a regular light bulb.  And if there weren&#039;t, who are you?  Who is the government, to tell a factory to shut down?  Who are you to tell someone what to buy?  Who are you to tell someone what they can do with electricity they pay for?  What sort of deal was struck with people who make CF’s?  It’s wrong.  You’re wrong. The discussion is appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zachary,<br />
Here are the facts in a nutshell.  If you do not agree with this logic, you should be prepared to live in a country where people are willing  to fight for reason.  </p>
<p>If 70% of the US population are happy with CF bulbs then, in theory, they’d be buying them.  What this law impedes is the manufacture of light bulbs for a minority of people who want them.  Somewhere there’s a girl with an easybake oven, somewhere there’s a guy with a dimmer switch (CF’s don’t work with dimmers), somewhere there’s a designer who doesn’t like the look of CF’s, somewhere there’s a recording studio that can’t have the ballast in the CF’s near their microphones.</p>
<p>Ultimately, there are tons of reasons why people might need a regular light bulb.  And if there weren&#8217;t, who are you?  Who is the government, to tell a factory to shut down?  Who are you to tell someone what to buy?  Who are you to tell someone what they can do with electricity they pay for?  What sort of deal was struck with people who make CF’s?  It’s wrong.  You’re wrong. The discussion is appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Faus</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94740</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 06:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why does this have to be a Rep Dem thing? That is what is destroying America.Americans don&#039;t realize that its not the Dems or Rep. who cause the problems it is big corps and big gov and mass media. There are no conclusive studies that I have seen to prove or disprove that global warming is direct cause of what we do. I can definitely see what massive profits can be made by getting people to believe our world is coming to an end. Are you suggesting that the Republican party is purposely trying to destroy civilization for profit. Do you think Obama or Bush for that matter know a damn thing about climate change? The issue with the light bulbs is not at all about climate change its whether or not the fed gov has the right to mandate what kind of light bulbs we use, what kind of cars we drive what kind of books are kids read at school. Maybe you believe everything the Fed Gov and fed funded scientific studies tell you but I most definitely don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does this have to be a Rep Dem thing? That is what is destroying America.Americans don&#8217;t realize that its not the Dems or Rep. who cause the problems it is big corps and big gov and mass media. There are no conclusive studies that I have seen to prove or disprove that global warming is direct cause of what we do. I can definitely see what massive profits can be made by getting people to believe our world is coming to an end. Are you suggesting that the Republican party is purposely trying to destroy civilization for profit. Do you think Obama or Bush for that matter know a damn thing about climate change? The issue with the light bulbs is not at all about climate change its whether or not the fed gov has the right to mandate what kind of light bulbs we use, what kind of cars we drive what kind of books are kids read at school. Maybe you believe everything the Fed Gov and fed funded scientific studies tell you but I most definitely don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Aliks</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/24/presidential-candidate-ron-paul-takes-on-hard-issue-light-bulbs/#comment-94739</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aliks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &#039;tragedy of the commons&#039; argument is a fallacy.  If people start using up a resource or doing something that is inherently less efficient people will automatically self-correct over time.  Less efficient equals eventually more costly (in monetary terms or time or convenient, etc.), more costly equals less desirable, less desirable things in the market will eventually phase out all on their own.  You don&#039;t need a costly Gov bureaucracy to FORCE something out of the market. If market forces (prices) don&#039;t push something that is &#039;clearly more efficient&#039; out then the older model is actually still useful. There is no reason why the &#039;commons&#039; would continue to buy an older product that is clearly less efficient (and therefore more costly) to their own detriment.  Just because YOU don&#039;t have a need for such a product doesn&#039;t mean others don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;tragedy of the commons&#8217; argument is a fallacy.  If people start using up a resource or doing something that is inherently less efficient people will automatically self-correct over time.  Less efficient equals eventually more costly (in monetary terms or time or convenient, etc.), more costly equals less desirable, less desirable things in the market will eventually phase out all on their own.  You don&#8217;t need a costly Gov bureaucracy to FORCE something out of the market. If market forces (prices) don&#8217;t push something that is &#8216;clearly more efficient&#8217; out then the older model is actually still useful. There is no reason why the &#8216;commons&#8217; would continue to buy an older product that is clearly less efficient (and therefore more costly) to their own detriment.  Just because YOU don&#8217;t have a need for such a product doesn&#8217;t mean others don&#8217;t.</p>
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