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		<title>By: Toys&#8221;R&#8221;Us Installing Largest Solar Roof in North America &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/01/25/solar-incentives-for-commercial-rooftops-are-used-up-early-in-california/#comment-99565</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toys&#8221;R&#8221;Us Installing Largest Solar Roof in North America &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 23:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Solar Incentives for Commercial Rooftops Are Used-Up Early in California [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/01/25/solar-incentives-for-commercial-rooftops-are-used-up-early-in-california/#comment-81687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually wish they would extend it. I don&#039;t think that it actually is at the tipping point yet. Lots of people are only just finding out about rebates - as they are evaporating!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually wish they would extend it. I don&#8217;t think that it actually is at the tipping point yet. Lots of people are only just finding out about rebates &#8211; as they are evaporating!</p>
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		<title>By: California Solar Engineering</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/01/25/solar-incentives-for-commercial-rooftops-are-used-up-early-in-california/#comment-81656</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California Solar Engineering]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although on one hand, especially as a design/install firm, this is terribly bad news- on the other we are doing such a good job California has gone solar and gone solar hard. We should take a second and pat ourselves on the back. Just one, then get back to work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although on one hand, especially as a design/install firm, this is terribly bad news- on the other we are doing such a good job California has gone solar and gone solar hard. We should take a second and pat ourselves on the back. Just one, then get back to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Solar Incentives for Commercial Rooftops Are Used-Up Early in California &#8212; Oil Business News</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/01/25/solar-incentives-for-commercial-rooftops-are-used-up-early-in-california/#comment-81629</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The good news is Californians are adding 3 Gigawatts of solar to the grid from rooftops in record time. The bad news is that some of their incentives are consequently running out early. Since 2006, the California Solar Initiative (CSI) has offered rebates for solar installations, both residential and non-residential, that step down over time&#8230;. Read More&#8230; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The good news is Californians are adding 3 Gigawatts of solar to the grid from rooftops in record time. The bad news is that some of their incentives are consequently running out early. Since 2006, the California Solar Initiative (CSI) has offered rebates for solar installations, both residential and non-residential, that step down over time&#8230;. Read More&#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/01/25/solar-incentives-for-commercial-rooftops-are-used-up-early-in-california/#comment-81202</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Syed, you are wrong:&quot;The people of California did not get these incentives&quot;.

Yes we did. I am a perfect example. The PPAs and leases pass the saving s on: that is how they are cheap.

I got a PPA through SunRun for my 3.15 KW system which would have been $19,000 with no incentives or tax credits. With the tax credits and rebate from PG&amp;E it would have been something like $12,000. 

With a PPA, you can pay monthly or pay it all upfront for 18 years of power. I chose that at 12 cents kwh to SunRun (which includes insurance, repairs, maintenance and inverter replacement when needed)  Personally I chose to do it that way (pay all at once,) because I am uncertain about our financial future long term at our age, plus right now, we can&#039;t use the fed tax credit so it would not have been as good a deal - but most people prefer the monthly payments because they are still much less than PG&amp;E.

(Before solar, I was paying 29 cents a kwh to PG&amp;E, so I get power for less than half that now. I still pay a little to PG&amp;E, like $4-$9 a month, but used to pay $130).

The reason SunRun could offer my $19,000 system to me at $10,000 is that they were taking the fed tax credit and the rebate. So the money side comes out the same. (But people are free to pay upfront or with a bank loan too.)

Sadly, the rebates are now negligible anyway, only a few hundred off on a system. But that is the way CSI set it up. That as more people adopted it, the incentive stepped down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Syed, you are wrong:&#8221;The people of California did not get these incentives&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yes we did. I am a perfect example. The PPAs and leases pass the saving s on: that is how they are cheap.</p>
<p>I got a PPA through SunRun for my 3.15 KW system which would have been $19,000 with no incentives or tax credits. With the tax credits and rebate from PG&amp;E it would have been something like $12,000. </p>
<p>With a PPA, you can pay monthly or pay it all upfront for 18 years of power. I chose that at 12 cents kwh to SunRun (which includes insurance, repairs, maintenance and inverter replacement when needed)  Personally I chose to do it that way (pay all at once,) because I am uncertain about our financial future long term at our age, plus right now, we can&#8217;t use the fed tax credit so it would not have been as good a deal &#8211; but most people prefer the monthly payments because they are still much less than PG&amp;E.</p>
<p>(Before solar, I was paying 29 cents a kwh to PG&amp;E, so I get power for less than half that now. I still pay a little to PG&amp;E, like $4-$9 a month, but used to pay $130).</p>
<p>The reason SunRun could offer my $19,000 system to me at $10,000 is that they were taking the fed tax credit and the rebate. So the money side comes out the same. (But people are free to pay upfront or with a bank loan too.)</p>
<p>Sadly, the rebates are now negligible anyway, only a few hundred off on a system. But that is the way CSI set it up. That as more people adopted it, the incentive stepped down.</p>
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		<title>By: Syed</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2011/01/25/solar-incentives-for-commercial-rooftops-are-used-up-early-in-california/#comment-81172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Syed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is this big misunderstanding that the residential and commercial customers are getting solar incentives.  Most of the solar systems installed in the California are either leased or PPA.  Almost all of the rebates and federal grant went into the pockets of financial institutions and big solar companies who are leasing or doing PPA these solar systems. The people of California did not get these incentives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is this big misunderstanding that the residential and commercial customers are getting solar incentives.  Most of the solar systems installed in the California are either leased or PPA.  Almost all of the rebates and federal grant went into the pockets of financial institutions and big solar companies who are leasing or doing PPA these solar systems. The people of California did not get these incentives.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Solar Incentives for Commercial Rooftops Are Used-Up Early in California – CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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