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	<title>Comments on: Cap and Trade Works. EU Replaces Coal Power with Wind Energy</title>
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		<title>By: John ONeill</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-99805</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John ONeill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 11:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The figures quoted for new renewable energy are capacity, not actual energy supplied. For wind this can be as low as 20% in some areas, and solar in much of Germany is even worse. Note that the four countries stated as meeting their Kyoto obligations include France and Sweden, which derive a large part of their elctricity from nuclear power, but not Denmark or Germany, the poster children for renewables]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The figures quoted for new renewable energy are capacity, not actual energy supplied. For wind this can be as low as 20% in some areas, and solar in much of Germany is even worse. Note that the four countries stated as meeting their Kyoto obligations include France and Sweden, which derive a large part of their elctricity from nuclear power, but not Denmark or Germany, the poster children for renewables</p>
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		<title>By: commenter</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-57376</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[commenter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you conveniently left out how much the green industry pays the media, not just the fossil industry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you conveniently left out how much the green industry pays the media, not just the fossil industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Carbonfund Tells US &#8220;Stay Away From Cancun&#8221; &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-53996</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carbonfund Tells US &#8220;Stay Away From Cancun&#8221; &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] PolicyCap and Trade Works. EU Replaces Coal Power with Wind Energy    Home [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] PolicyCap and Trade Works. EU Replaces Coal Power with Wind Energy    Home [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Green Electricity</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-53834</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Green Electricity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally some good news out on the green energy front!  I do agree with you that it really depends on who you&#039;re talking to.  Fossil fuel &quot;trolls&quot; would like to have us believe that alternative energy projects are not making progress at all, not only in the EU, but everywhere. That despite the crucifying gas prices and the harm to the environment, fossil fuels are still the only choice we have.  Figures never lie, though.  Slowly but surely, green energy&#039;s time will come... with the support of everyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally some good news out on the green energy front!  I do agree with you that it really depends on who you&#8217;re talking to.  Fossil fuel &#8220;trolls&#8221; would like to have us believe that alternative energy projects are not making progress at all, not only in the EU, but everywhere. That despite the crucifying gas prices and the harm to the environment, fossil fuels are still the only choice we have.  Figures never lie, though.  Slowly but surely, green energy&#8217;s time will come&#8230; with the support of everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Swanson</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-53833</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Swanson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Cap and Trade advocates need to recognize that it may work for narrow objectives of limited duration. Large-scale application using casino-like market forces are potentially disruptive, often creating gains for those with an inside track. 
The administrative and oversite costs associated with Cap and Trade performance verification seems to be a negative. But all this seems to be overlooked by the spinmeisters and poorly informed writing heads.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cap and Trade advocates need to recognize that it may work for narrow objectives of limited duration. Large-scale application using casino-like market forces are potentially disruptive, often creating gains for those with an inside track.<br />
The administrative and oversite costs associated with Cap and Trade performance verification seems to be a negative. But all this seems to be overlooked by the spinmeisters and poorly informed writing heads.</p>
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		<title>By: cb</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-53748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is this not publicized more widely?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is this not publicized more widely?</p>
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		<title>By: Las Vegas Remodeling</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-53057</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Las Vegas Remodeling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 23:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe progress is being made, I really don&#039;t care what the oil industry thinks. They are always going to have a derogatory statement, renewable energy is cutting into their market share. We have to stay on this course of weaning ourselves off of oil and gas. We are going to see a more rapid decline of our planet if we don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe progress is being made, I really don&#8217;t care what the oil industry thinks. They are always going to have a derogatory statement, renewable energy is cutting into their market share. We have to stay on this course of weaning ourselves off of oil and gas. We are going to see a more rapid decline of our planet if we don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-52946</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 18:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is quite literally a breath of fresh air! Unfortunately here in the states everyone wants a magic bullet solution, a single technology to solve the problem of fossil fuels and that is just unrealistic. 
 Once you combine that with combating the vast amount of misinformation that is constantly foisted upon the average tv viewer, suddenly you have a huge problem. People value their view of the ocean more than clean energy (Mass. Offshore windmills) or they complain about the aesthetics of the mountain range being mildly affected (VT and Grandpa&#039;s Ridge windmill initiative) and neither of these counter groups realize that if we do not work to solve this fossil fuelish path we are on, that ocean, those mountains, won&#039;t mean anything as they will be ruined.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quite literally a breath of fresh air! Unfortunately here in the states everyone wants a magic bullet solution, a single technology to solve the problem of fossil fuels and that is just unrealistic.<br />
 Once you combine that with combating the vast amount of misinformation that is constantly foisted upon the average tv viewer, suddenly you have a huge problem. People value their view of the ocean more than clean energy (Mass. Offshore windmills) or they complain about the aesthetics of the mountain range being mildly affected (VT and Grandpa&#8217;s Ridge windmill initiative) and neither of these counter groups realize that if we do not work to solve this fossil fuelish path we are on, that ocean, those mountains, won&#8217;t mean anything as they will be ruined.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-52905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-52900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, no - don&#039;t outsource. Do what Europe does. Innovate. That is what we cover here, and there are numerous solutions to fossil-based industries.

Combined heat and power reduces carbon emissions. Finland now gets a third of its electricity from waste energy produced with CH&amp;P from papermills, another fossil energy intensive industry like the ones you cite.
http://cleantechnica.com/2010/06/29/why-finnish-paper-mills-became-electric-utilities/

Also, Solar CSP can make enough heat for these industries. Read the post the other day on Gypsum production 
http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/25/making-sheet-rock-without-fossil-fuels/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, no &#8211; don&#8217;t outsource. Do what Europe does. Innovate. That is what we cover here, and there are numerous solutions to fossil-based industries.</p>
<p>Combined heat and power reduces carbon emissions. Finland now gets a third of its electricity from waste energy produced with CH&amp;P from papermills, another fossil energy intensive industry like the ones you cite.<br />
<a href="http://cleantechnica.com/2010/06/29/why-finnish-paper-mills-became-electric-utilities/" rel="nofollow">http://cleantechnica.com/2010/06/29/why-finnish-paper-mills-became-electric-utilities/</a></p>
<p>Also, Solar CSP can make enough heat for these industries. Read the post the other day on Gypsum production<br />
<a href="http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/25/making-sheet-rock-without-fossil-fuels/" rel="nofollow">http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/25/making-sheet-rock-without-fossil-fuels/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Norminton</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-52888</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregory Norminton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 15:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, but that&#039;s just facts. Who needs facts when they have Rush Limbaugh&#039;s opinions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but that&#8217;s just facts. Who needs facts when they have Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s opinions?</p>
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		<title>By: harrywr2</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-52880</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[harrywr2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s easy to cut carbon emissions. Just offshore your aluminum, steel and cement industries. Of course if everyone did that we would return rather rapidly to the stone age.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to cut carbon emissions. Just offshore your aluminum, steel and cement industries. Of course if everyone did that we would return rather rapidly to the stone age.</p>
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		<title>By: sola</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/26/cap-and-trade-works-eu-replaces-coal-power-with-wind-energy/#comment-52871</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The biggest factor in this transformation is that energy production becomes really sustainable, much less vulnerable and much more distributed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest factor in this transformation is that energy production becomes really sustainable, much less vulnerable and much more distributed.</p>
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