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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-115317</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks. I&#039;m a fan. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I&#8217;m a fan. <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-115184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 05:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every high speed rail system in the world is highly successful and profitable!  People get many new options for travel and work, and employers get a far wider pool of people to hire from.  Cities get revitalized, and by the way high speed rail creates billions of dollars in real estate value.  As the president said, &quot;there&#039;s no reason Europe of China should have the fastest trains&quot;... its true, we have let the oil companies and road interests keep us locked into their systems and blocking us from advancing as a nation.  Now&#039;s the time for this to all change!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every high speed rail system in the world is highly successful and profitable!  People get many new options for travel and work, and employers get a far wider pool of people to hire from.  Cities get revitalized, and by the way high speed rail creates billions of dollars in real estate value.  As the president said, &#8220;there&#8217;s no reason Europe of China should have the fastest trains&#8221;&#8230; its true, we have let the oil companies and road interests keep us locked into their systems and blocking us from advancing as a nation.  Now&#8217;s the time for this to all change!</p>
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		<title>By: High-Speed Rail Hacked &#38; Attacked in U.S., but Not Yet Fully Dead &#124; CleanTechnica</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-108704</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[High-Speed Rail Hacked &#38; Attacked in U.S., but Not Yet Fully Dead &#124; CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] political leaders (in the party known for its tea escapades) do not seem to be aware of its many promises and positive features. The latest news on how they have nearly killed high-speed rail in the U.S. (some of Obama&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] political leaders (in the party known for its tea escapades) do not seem to be aware of its many promises and positive features. The latest news on how they have nearly killed high-speed rail in the U.S. (some of Obama&#8217;s [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-88980</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[:D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Olmo &#124; EV Simulator</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-88932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Olmo &#124; EV Simulator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, 

I like the article and it&#039;s bottom line: you will always find someone that is against it. If you arguments with facts, you will always get &quot;against&quot; facts. But If we all have NO choice, arguments go to second level. 

Speed trains work all over europe, I don&#039;t think why it won&#039;t work in USA... 

Olmo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>I like the article and it&#8217;s bottom line: you will always find someone that is against it. If you arguments with facts, you will always get &#8220;against&#8221; facts. But If we all have NO choice, arguments go to second level. </p>
<p>Speed trains work all over europe, I don&#8217;t think why it won&#8217;t work in USA&#8230; </p>
<p>Olmo</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Witt</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-88856</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Witt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Genius! Of course a country does just like expanding an airport and IT IS NOT like a nuclear plant. Many countries are going HSpeed and just China. Who are pretty smart by the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genius! Of course a country does just like expanding an airport and IT IS NOT like a nuclear plant. Many countries are going HSpeed and just China. Who are pretty smart by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Guerrero</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-88855</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Guerrero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course!! Just like the freeways of the dinosaur past.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course!! Just like the freeways of the dinosaur past.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Witt</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-88854</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Witt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Genius!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genius!</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Guerrero</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-88853</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Guerrero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To by-pass Repugs/TNutters have Obama order the US militaries to build high speed rails between military bases to move men and equipment quickly and cheaply and then open the rails to the public.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To by-pass Repugs/TNutters have Obama order the US militaries to build high speed rails between military bases to move men and equipment quickly and cheaply and then open the rails to the public.</p>
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		<title>By: High-Speed Rail Gets $53 Billion More from Obama Administration [VIDEO] &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-88059</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[High-Speed Rail Gets $53 Billion More from Obama Administration [VIDEO] &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 1. High-Speed Rail Opposition and Support 2. U.S. Secretary of Transportation Focusing on High-Speed Rail in Florida 3. China Wants to Connect its High-Speed Rail to Europe (Largest Infrastructure Project in History) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 1. High-Speed Rail Opposition and Support 2. U.S. Secretary of Transportation Focusing on High-Speed Rail in Florida 3. China Wants to Connect its High-Speed Rail to Europe (Largest Infrastructure Project in History) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Caribb</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-62669</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caribb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent point. TV news where we get most of our information from sadly focuses too much on our own world and less on global developments and places/events where we are not involved. That plus everything TV news related has to be entertaining which makes it hard to get the serious message out that we&#039;ve all really missed the boat on this technology. That being said a high speed rail does exist between NYC and Washington DC but there&#039;s a lot more potential in the US and some in Canada for future development. Hopefully the printed press and bloggers will keep pushing for this and what it can do for our choices as travel consumers and for the rail industry and it&#039;s suppliers as a whole. There&#039;s a lot of money to be made here and we should really be at the forefront of this technolgy not decades behind. When you also look at cell phones and buses/cars in Europe and how more advanced they are then here you really have to wonder who is further ahead in technology, Europe or North America and now China and Asia.. we&#039;re slipping and no one is even noticing it would seem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point. TV news where we get most of our information from sadly focuses too much on our own world and less on global developments and places/events where we are not involved. That plus everything TV news related has to be entertaining which makes it hard to get the serious message out that we&#8217;ve all really missed the boat on this technology. That being said a high speed rail does exist between NYC and Washington DC but there&#8217;s a lot more potential in the US and some in Canada for future development. Hopefully the printed press and bloggers will keep pushing for this and what it can do for our choices as travel consumers and for the rail industry and it&#8217;s suppliers as a whole. There&#8217;s a lot of money to be made here and we should really be at the forefront of this technolgy not decades behind. When you also look at cell phones and buses/cars in Europe and how more advanced they are then here you really have to wonder who is further ahead in technology, Europe or North America and now China and Asia.. we&#8217;re slipping and no one is even noticing it would seem.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-61928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing I wonder, too, is how many Americans even realize that other countries are steaming ahead on this matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I wonder, too, is how many Americans even realize that other countries are steaming ahead on this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: nathan green</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-61515</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nathan green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for pointing out how stupid Americans are.  It is sad but true.  I think we should require people to take a civics test before they can vote to empower the enlightened and not the manipulated.  People used to think that interstates were boondoggles too until they actually used them.  If high speed rail is such a waste then why is Finland, Russia, Spain, England, South Korea, Brazil, France, Germany,Japan, Taiwan and China currently expanding their systems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing out how stupid Americans are.  It is sad but true.  I think we should require people to take a civics test before they can vote to empower the enlightened and not the manipulated.  People used to think that interstates were boondoggles too until they actually used them.  If high speed rail is such a waste then why is Finland, Russia, Spain, England, South Korea, Brazil, France, Germany,Japan, Taiwan and China currently expanding their systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-61289</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doug/Caribb, Thanks a lot for commenting! &amp; for the great photo. Great to hear from someone who has ridden these trains, &amp; a lot of good perspective added. The other point that I didn&#039;t bring up in the piece is that development follows infrastructure -- HSR would encourage dense, rail-friendly development. It is a key tool for encouraging such development, which is much more sustainable in many respects. Anyway, thank you much for your comments, Caribb :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug/Caribb, Thanks a lot for commenting! &amp; for the great photo. Great to hear from someone who has ridden these trains, &amp; a lot of good perspective added. The other point that I didn&#8217;t bring up in the piece is that development follows infrastructure &#8212; HSR would encourage dense, rail-friendly development. It is a key tool for encouraging such development, which is much more sustainable in many respects. Anyway, thank you much for your comments, Caribb <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-59260</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m Caribb, the photgrapher of the top photo. I&#039;ve experienced both the Japanese Shinkansen (photo) and the French TGV high speed trains and in both cases I wanted to just rip&#039;em off the tracks and take them home to Canada so we could experience what the lucky people in Japan and France have to enjoy. A few months later sittin on a delayed flight between Detroit And Grand Rapids I sat their thinking we&#039;d be half way to Grand Rapids had there been a high speed train to that city from DTW.. It&#039;s an amazing network and one we North Americans should be using big time, especially in the USA where you&#039;ve got the population to make it profitable. It&#039;s a little more difficult in Canada with the smaller (thinner) urban regions and tons of winter snow and ice and make maintenance more expensive.

For people worrying and claiming &quot;not in my back yard&quot; I think they have little to worry about. Ironically these trains go at 300 kph at top speed and wiz by so quick you probably wouldn&#039;t even have time to notice them let alone be bothered by them.. however I fully understand the concern and if asked if I want it running through my backyard I might be hesitant too.. however that being said I wouldn&#039;t want to hold up installing the who concept in North America. This is where we have to find intelligent solutions to meet the greater good of all people and hoigh speed rail will give us all more options for short, regional and even long distance travel. Airlines will then have to actually face alternative competition and maybe improve their service to meet the needs of customers who might actually leave for a more viable land based option other than cars and buses. So gains all around if we can all just get past the &quot;there is no solution but my solution&quot; stance. Good luck to you all down there, I hope it works out.. and hopefully up here too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Caribb, the photgrapher of the top photo. I&#8217;ve experienced both the Japanese Shinkansen (photo) and the French TGV high speed trains and in both cases I wanted to just rip&#8217;em off the tracks and take them home to Canada so we could experience what the lucky people in Japan and France have to enjoy. A few months later sittin on a delayed flight between Detroit And Grand Rapids I sat their thinking we&#8217;d be half way to Grand Rapids had there been a high speed train to that city from DTW.. It&#8217;s an amazing network and one we North Americans should be using big time, especially in the USA where you&#8217;ve got the population to make it profitable. It&#8217;s a little more difficult in Canada with the smaller (thinner) urban regions and tons of winter snow and ice and make maintenance more expensive.</p>
<p>For people worrying and claiming &#8220;not in my back yard&#8221; I think they have little to worry about. Ironically these trains go at 300 kph at top speed and wiz by so quick you probably wouldn&#8217;t even have time to notice them let alone be bothered by them.. however I fully understand the concern and if asked if I want it running through my backyard I might be hesitant too.. however that being said I wouldn&#8217;t want to hold up installing the who concept in North America. This is where we have to find intelligent solutions to meet the greater good of all people and hoigh speed rail will give us all more options for short, regional and even long distance travel. Airlines will then have to actually face alternative competition and maybe improve their service to meet the needs of customers who might actually leave for a more viable land based option other than cars and buses. So gains all around if we can all just get past the &#8220;there is no solution but my solution&#8221; stance. Good luck to you all down there, I hope it works out.. and hopefully up here too.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan Senate&#8217;s $160 Million High-Speed Rail Opportunity &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-57271</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michigan Senate&#8217;s $160 Million High-Speed Rail Opportunity &#8211; CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Tea Partiers and high-speed rail disinformers have been framing high-speed rail projects as a problem lately. While they do cost money, they are [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Tea Partiers and high-speed rail disinformers have been framing high-speed rail projects as a problem lately. While they do cost money, they are [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-55305</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 15:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good points Roger. The Federal government owns enough land (large amounts surrounding the interstate highway system) that it wouldn&#039;t necessitate destroying homes or communities to build these lines. I&#039;m a pro-constitution, extremely-limited government type of person, but I&#039;m also for high-speed rail in the US. Infrastructure is one of the only valid uses of taxpayer money--the general welfare.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Roger. The Federal government owns enough land (large amounts surrounding the interstate highway system) that it wouldn&#8217;t necessitate destroying homes or communities to build these lines. I&#8217;m a pro-constitution, extremely-limited government type of person, but I&#8217;m also for high-speed rail in the US. Infrastructure is one of the only valid uses of taxpayer money&#8211;the general welfare.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose T.</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-50927</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jose T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I totally agree with Zachary. Same opposition was seen in France with the Eiffel Tower, yet it was built and is now a tourist attraction bringing who knows how much money to their community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with Zachary. Same opposition was seen in France with the Eiffel Tower, yet it was built and is now a tourist attraction bringing who knows how much money to their community.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-50736</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Roger: it seems you missed that point of the article a bit. ANYTHING will have some opposition, but does that mean we should not do anything? should not build any parks, any roads, any power plants, and airports? I think not

this has never been the policy of the U.S. or of any country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roger: it seems you missed that point of the article a bit. ANYTHING will have some opposition, but does that mean we should not do anything? should not build any parks, any roads, any power plants, and airports? I think not</p>
<p>this has never been the policy of the U.S. or of any country.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Lauricella</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/11/18/high-speed-rail-opposition-and-support/#comment-49291</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Lauricella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zach:

So are WE to ignore the concerns of local folks who may not (in a majority opinion) want high speed rail through their community for what ever reason??   Are we just to say sorry your concerns are not valid, we (big government) know better, take the rail and live with it??  We are not a dictatorship (yet) in the USA, government rules with the consent of the public and public involvement is solicited and required on projects such as high speed rail.  You may not like that some members of the public don&#039;t feel comfortable or want High speed rail in their community but you don&#039;t live in their community and probably may never understand why they have concerns and/or don&#039;t want it at all.    If local politicians fail to listen and fail to respond to the local community when they DON&#039;T want something those local politicians (county, state and city) will be voted out.   Its not an issue of whether the concerns make sense in the bigger picture its that concerns exist about affects of large projects on the lifestyle and community of people in those areas.    I am sure if someone was proposing a Nuclear plant in a community and that community had objections you would probably say the community had the right to object and that their concerns needed to be listened to and addressed.   Would you not??   Its no different with High speed rail.    The only difference is that in China very little objection and or concern or dissent is allowed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach:</p>
<p>So are WE to ignore the concerns of local folks who may not (in a majority opinion) want high speed rail through their community for what ever reason??   Are we just to say sorry your concerns are not valid, we (big government) know better, take the rail and live with it??  We are not a dictatorship (yet) in the USA, government rules with the consent of the public and public involvement is solicited and required on projects such as high speed rail.  You may not like that some members of the public don&#8217;t feel comfortable or want High speed rail in their community but you don&#8217;t live in their community and probably may never understand why they have concerns and/or don&#8217;t want it at all.    If local politicians fail to listen and fail to respond to the local community when they DON&#8217;T want something those local politicians (county, state and city) will be voted out.   Its not an issue of whether the concerns make sense in the bigger picture its that concerns exist about affects of large projects on the lifestyle and community of people in those areas.    I am sure if someone was proposing a Nuclear plant in a community and that community had objections you would probably say the community had the right to object and that their concerns needed to be listened to and addressed.   Would you not??   Its no different with High speed rail.    The only difference is that in China very little objection and or concern or dissent is allowed.</p>
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