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Published on October 16th, 2010 | by Susan Kraemer

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Astounding EROEI of Kitegen Ready to Test!

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October 16th, 2010 by  


The  Oil Drum is reporting that Kitegen has readied a prototype of its innovative wind power device for testing next month.

We’ve covered Kitegen before, back when it was just a theoretical idea, albeit one that holds the promise of an EROEI better than anything that can be obtained by any traditional wind or solar technologies. The KiteGen simply harnesses that rapid un-spooling motion of a kite as it reels out in the wind, so that instead of being a heavy static structure this renewable energy device is simply a light and flexible kite.

However, as the creative force behind it Ugo Bardi points out, “it’s one thing on paper, another is the reality of putting together a machine that had never been built before. It is an incredible challenge that Massimo Ippolito has taken onto himself and that he is succeeding in overcoming; step by step”.

Getting the real prototype built has been a challenge. Kitegen Research had to abandon the initial plans of building the first prototype near the town of Berzano, not far from Torino, in Italy, after almost a year of trying to persuade the local NIMBY contingent. That has generated almost one year of delay; since everything had to be moved to the new site and a completely new set of permits had to be obtained.

Bardi claims “These are NOT just kites. The kitegen is a full fledged robotic system that controls a number of kites together. It is like planes flying in formation. If planes were controlled by someone on the ground just looking up at them, flying in formation would not be possible – of course. In the case of the Kitegen, there is no pilot; the software controls the kites on the basis of the input it receives from an array of sensors and moves the kites by calculating their position in real time. So, if the Kitegen works as expected, the likely thing you’ll see is exactly what you say: many kites flying from the same hill.”

The technology that has been developed for the kitegen is impressive: it is an extremely modern approach which is based on keeping costs low by using simple and inexpensive materials. For the structural parts on the ground, the system uses only aluminium, steel and carbon fiber. Dyneema (high strength polyethylene) is used for the cables that control the kite.

The power generator is based on neodymium-boron-iron magnets. The key element of the system is its sophisticated software that controls everything and that makes it possible to use a relatively simple design. This is a typical characteristic of modern robotics and the kitegen is, actually, a robot that controls the system in real time on the basis of an array of sensors; some located on the kite, some on the ground.

Kitegen Harnesses Unspooling Motion for Energy
The kitegen plants can be spaced of a few hundred meters from each other. So the “power density” of a kite energy farm can be very high. Of course, the kites will have to fly in parallel so they are controlled by the same kind of sophisticated technology that controls Predator drones.

Bardi says “It is no amateurish stuff – it is not a madman flying a kite. It is top class sophisticated engineering. Actually, it is one of the technological revolutions of our times. Software and sensors together: it is robotics moving ahead by leaps and bounds. It is unbelievable what these things will be able to do – not just kites!”

With the results of the tests of this at-one-time fanciful idea due out in November, this could be another very good month for renewable breakthroughs!

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  • Jacob Theodore

    Oh, PLEASE!  So you have a kite with its cable wrapped around a drum on the ground? OK, so then you release the kite into the wind and it unrolls the cable from the drum, right? That drum rotation rotates a generator and produces electricity, right? So far, so good. So, when the kite reaches the end of its cable, and it stops, the drum stops,  and the electricity is no longer generated. What do you do then? Release the kite, let it blow away and replace the empty drum with a full one with another kite attached, and start all over? Or do you turn the generator into a motor and haul the kite down? Oh, but that will need energy, won’t it? But you’ve just made electricity, so you use that energy (stored somewhere), to crank the kite back down. You then realize that it took more electricity to pull the kite down, than you produced, because you get maybe 80% efficiency on your motor/generator, and probably even less because of other easily identifiable system losses. 

    Why do I look at this as some form of mental/mechanical masturbation con-game? It’s because this kind of thing gets people worked up and produces two things: Nothing, and Less-than-nothing.

    My Sicilian grandmother always said that that there were brilliant Italians and then there were those who went around in the southern Italian heat without hats and broiled their brains. She was mostly referring to my cousins and uncles. (The girls covered their heads outside, not just in church.) But about all my male relatives, in-laws and outlaws, you could sell any one of them a wheel, painted to look like a cheese, and they would eat it up.

    • Bob_Wallace

      It looks (from their website) that this is a number of kites attached to a rotating “carousel” .

      Think of the carousel as being the hub and generator of a wind turbine.  And the kites as being the blades.

      Will the contraption work better (more efficiently/for less money) than other approaches to harness the wind?  I guess we’re going to find out….

      You’re system – the unwinding kite stream drum.  I can see it working if the kite, once fully deployed, could be reduced in size thus allowing cable/kite retrieval using less energy than what was generated during deployment.  Fly a big kite, reel in a little/collapsed kite.

      That’s not to say that I would expect the system to be worthwhile.

      My respect to your Sicilian grandmother….

    • Jenny Sommer
      • Bob_Wallace

        Did someone find the key to the wayback machine? A two year old article and a four year old link?

        What have kites done for us lately? Plenty of time to cobble together a prototype and crank out some data. Is there any?

        • Jenny Sommer

          There are prototypes. Kitegen is building a bigger prototype for heights around 2000m at the moment. X-Wind is working on carousel machines.
          Skysails just entered the power market. Their kites have towed cargo ships saving 30% of fuel for us the last 4-5 years.

          My comment was aimed at Jacob who failed to understand the principles involved.

          The kitegen carousel design is ready. The estimated cost for a 5GWe machine are 1.5b €.
          Contact Massimo Ippolito if you want to buy one.

        • Jenny Sommer

          There is probably a heap of data. They have built their first purpose made kite which is actually more a wing.
          http://kitegen.com/2014/08/29/la-prima-power-wing/

          Industrial production of the system is planned to start by 2016/17.

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  • http://www.kensan.it Sandro kensan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2wwWLFGneY

    Stem video, kitegen early prototipe.

  • raimondo

    HI Susan
    i’m a italian Kitegen fan since 2006.

    If you like to report another killer-app from Italy i’d like suggest you to read this site:

    http://www.biohyst.it/default.asp?lang=en&idPag=357

    This tecnology use straw or other crop waste (not crop food like corn), with 100 kg of straw can produce 25 kg meal for animals and also 20 kg of lignin and also 26 liters of ethanol.

    greetings

  • http://www.mowigen.com Guillermo Mayorga

    Susan, thanks for bringing these news and the hope it creates.
    I have been both happy and at the same time frustrated at the web site from Kitegen. Very good idea !! but they don’t keep it up to date so we know about the progress. It is mid november now … and I am chewing my nails wondering of there is good hope in the horizon from the latest tests. Looking forward to your news on about Kitegen. :) :)

    • http://cleantechnica.com/author/susan Susan Kraemer

      It is indeed…

    • http://www.kensan.it Sandro kensan

      http://www.aspoitalia.it/blog/nte/?s=kitegen

      Here in italian there is the latest news about kitegen by Ugo Bardi and other. Please use google translation if you are not Italian tongue.

  • Paul

    What is the EROEI?

    • http://cleantechnica.com/author/susan Susan Kraemer

      We will know once the test is complete. But they estimate a 100 MW Carousel power plant is estimated to deliver energy for less than 0.03 Euro per kWh, cheaper than fossil fuels, which have the greatest energy return on energy invested now (that’s why we got so addicted to them!)

    • Jenny Sommer

      http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/7014#comment-729639

      Massimo Ippolito tells some numbers from the LCA.
      1500 for the 10GW carousel.
      350 for the Kitegen stem

  • sol

    The capacity factor of the prototype KiteGen powerplant is ~57%. (5000 hours / year)

    This is VERY HIGH for wind/solar power.

    Also, I believe the power produced can be mostly scheduled since high altitude wind is not only much stronger than surface wind but also much more predictable and continuous.

    • http://cleantechnica.com/author/susan Susan Kraemer

      It IS staggering, yeah. The results at the end of Novemember could be a great Christmas present to the world!

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