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		<title>By: How Healthy is Our Democracy? &#124; ecopolitology</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/10/14/americans-have-some-strange-ideas-about-what-causes-global-warming/#comment-41563</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How Healthy is Our Democracy? &#124; ecopolitology]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 12:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 20% of the population is sure that the Sun revolves around the Earth, and Americans have some very strange ideas about global warming, one of the most important issues of our day.Now, I think most of these information failures are [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 20% of the population is sure that the Sun revolves around the Earth, and Americans have some very strange ideas about global warming, one of the most important issues of our day.Now, I think most of these information failures are [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anderlan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anderlan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 04:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s renewable carbon dioxide emissions and non-renewable.  That stuff coming out of your mouth is renewable, it came from food, which came from the soil, sunlight, water, and carbon dioxide that was in the air this year or a few years ago.  Carbon dioxide from a coal plant was put in the ground millions of years ago by God, so that the planet would be able to stay cool even as the Sun warmed up over billions of years.  As you astutely pointed out.

You were less astute when talking about nuke and space program CO2 emissions.  I have no idea what you were talking about there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s renewable carbon dioxide emissions and non-renewable.  That stuff coming out of your mouth is renewable, it came from food, which came from the soil, sunlight, water, and carbon dioxide that was in the air this year or a few years ago.  Carbon dioxide from a coal plant was put in the ground millions of years ago by God, so that the planet would be able to stay cool even as the Sun warmed up over billions of years.  As you astutely pointed out.</p>
<p>You were less astute when talking about nuke and space program CO2 emissions.  I have no idea what you were talking about there.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderlan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anderlan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 04:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is why I try to make it easy when cold-talking somebody.  We shouldn&#039;t say warming is caused by &quot;greenhouse gases, mainly CO2 and methane, emitted by man, mainly by burning fossil fuels&quot;.  Instead, we should always say, warming is caused by uncontrolled fossil fuel.  We should be forthright in the prescription: phasing out fossil fuel, period, if we can defend it--and we can!  

Further, I am careful not to say &quot;carbon tax&quot; unless talking to someone who knows exactly what I mean.  Instead, I say &quot;fossil fuel fee&quot; or just &quot;fossil fee&quot;.

Finally, put to rest all the listeners&#039; fears about socialist conspiracy by advocating a *revenue-neutral* carbon tax solution.  Or, put just as correctly but more clearly to people: A Phased-in Fossil Fuel Fee with 100% equal Tax Cut.

The fee is what we&#039;ve been calling a carbon tax, and the Tax Cut, in order to be equalized across the population, will have to include a Tax Credit for some people, which is only one step away from simply sending carbon rebate checks.  It&#039;s all the same thing, but I say it in a way that Libertarians, Southerners, and Tea Partiers will actually *hear* me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I try to make it easy when cold-talking somebody.  We shouldn&#8217;t say warming is caused by &#8220;greenhouse gases, mainly CO2 and methane, emitted by man, mainly by burning fossil fuels&#8221;.  Instead, we should always say, warming is caused by uncontrolled fossil fuel.  We should be forthright in the prescription: phasing out fossil fuel, period, if we can defend it&#8211;and we can!  </p>
<p>Further, I am careful not to say &#8220;carbon tax&#8221; unless talking to someone who knows exactly what I mean.  Instead, I say &#8220;fossil fuel fee&#8221; or just &#8220;fossil fee&#8221;.</p>
<p>Finally, put to rest all the listeners&#8217; fears about socialist conspiracy by advocating a *revenue-neutral* carbon tax solution.  Or, put just as correctly but more clearly to people: A Phased-in Fossil Fuel Fee with 100% equal Tax Cut.</p>
<p>The fee is what we&#8217;ve been calling a carbon tax, and the Tax Cut, in order to be equalized across the population, will have to include a Tax Credit for some people, which is only one step away from simply sending carbon rebate checks.  It&#8217;s all the same thing, but I say it in a way that Libertarians, Southerners, and Tea Partiers will actually *hear* me.</p>
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		<title>By: Alternate Energy News, 16 Oct 2010 &#124; Alternate Energy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alternate Energy News, 16 Oct 2010 &#124; Alternate Energy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Americans Have Some Strange Ideas About What Causes Global Warming Large majorities of Americans incorrectly believe that completely irrelevant behavior would reduce global warming. For example, an astounding 67% believe that reducing toxic waste, or banning aeros&#8230;.. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Americans Have Some Strange Ideas About What Causes Global Warming Large majorities of Americans incorrectly believe that completely irrelevant behavior would reduce global warming. For example, an astounding 67% believe that reducing toxic waste, or banning aeros&#8230;.. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Hanlan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Hanlan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 19:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly the U.S. has a problem with its education system and media that so many would be taken in by the global warming deniers but I don&#039;t know that Canadians would do any better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly the U.S. has a problem with its education system and media that so many would be taken in by the global warming deniers but I don&#8217;t know that Canadians would do any better.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/10/14/americans-have-some-strange-ideas-about-what-causes-global-warming/#comment-36006</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Robert Park: regarding the sun, we are at the deepest solar minimum in nearly a century and after the hottest decade on record, it looks like 2011 is likely to be the hottest year on record: http://climateprogress.org/2010/10/11/solar-cycle-24-no-maunder-mininum-global-warming-hottest-decade/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert Park: regarding the sun, we are at the deepest solar minimum in nearly a century and after the hottest decade on record, it looks like 2011 is likely to be the hottest year on record: <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2010/10/11/solar-cycle-24-no-maunder-mininum-global-warming-hottest-decade/" rel="nofollow">http://climateprogress.org/2010/10/11/solar-cycle-24-no-maunder-mininum-global-warming-hottest-decade/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Home Power Saver</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Home Power Saver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent article, and the (hopefully) good news is I&#039;m seeing that the younger generation seems to have a better idea on the causes and cures.  I hope this trend continues.  I try to do my part at home, and I even developed a hobby website called Home Power Saver to discuss ways to save energy.  My hope is to hit the &quot;non believers&quot; in global warming by focusing on projects and products that have clear paybacks (i.e. if you don&#039;t believe, you can still save money).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, and the (hopefully) good news is I&#8217;m seeing that the younger generation seems to have a better idea on the causes and cures.  I hope this trend continues.  I try to do my part at home, and I even developed a hobby website called Home Power Saver to discuss ways to save energy.  My hope is to hit the &#8220;non believers&#8221; in global warming by focusing on projects and products that have clear paybacks (i.e. if you don&#8217;t believe, you can still save money).</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Landherr</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/10/14/americans-have-some-strange-ideas-about-what-causes-global-warming/#comment-35886</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lawrence Landherr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[American who are indoctrinated (educated) by Rush are fools.  Most of them still think that the earth is flat too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American who are indoctrinated (educated) by Rush are fools.  Most of them still think that the earth is flat too.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Park</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Park]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 05:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting, but you make mistakes too.

For one thing, if carbon emissions do cause global warming, then nuclear power plants do cause global warming, because they too have carbon emissions, albeit a lot less than plants running on coal.

Likewise, in the same vein of thought, the space program also causes global warming because it creates carbon emissions as well.  Heck, so do we all when we breathe and talk.

I think you misunderstand what the word cause means.  Perhaps you should get away from framing it as &quot;cause&quot; and &quot;not cause&quot; to &quot;cause significantly more&quot; and &quot;cause significantly less&quot;?

And it is a fact that the sun is much hotter now than it was before.  Why is it inconceivable that this could have an effect on the earth&#039;s temperature?  There are plenty of scientists who believe this is part of the equation, and one doesn&#039;t have to be a hardcore scientist to appreciate the logic.

If you&#039;re not willing to consider all these pieces, I worry that you may be just as closed-minded as the Rush Limbaugh you are lambasting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, but you make mistakes too.</p>
<p>For one thing, if carbon emissions do cause global warming, then nuclear power plants do cause global warming, because they too have carbon emissions, albeit a lot less than plants running on coal.</p>
<p>Likewise, in the same vein of thought, the space program also causes global warming because it creates carbon emissions as well.  Heck, so do we all when we breathe and talk.</p>
<p>I think you misunderstand what the word cause means.  Perhaps you should get away from framing it as &#8220;cause&#8221; and &#8220;not cause&#8221; to &#8220;cause significantly more&#8221; and &#8220;cause significantly less&#8221;?</p>
<p>And it is a fact that the sun is much hotter now than it was before.  Why is it inconceivable that this could have an effect on the earth&#8217;s temperature?  There are plenty of scientists who believe this is part of the equation, and one doesn&#8217;t have to be a hardcore scientist to appreciate the logic.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not willing to consider all these pieces, I worry that you may be just as closed-minded as the Rush Limbaugh you are lambasting.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 02:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, it is relatively rinkydink, all right. Interesting that that is the one thing the government really pushed and has gained a foothold in our collective consciousness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it is relatively rinkydink, all right. Interesting that that is the one thing the government really pushed and has gained a foothold in our collective consciousness.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 01:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, switching to compact fluorescent bulbs won&#039;t stop global warming either. Making the switch merely slows it down very slightly. Sort of like hiding under your desk is a good idea during a nuclear attack.

Either radical action is necessary soon or no action at all is necessary save for some basic research on alternative energy. Depends on the speed of the warming. These rinky dink measures like changing light bulbs are just indoctrination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, switching to compact fluorescent bulbs won&#8217;t stop global warming either. Making the switch merely slows it down very slightly. Sort of like hiding under your desk is a good idea during a nuclear attack.</p>
<p>Either radical action is necessary soon or no action at all is necessary save for some basic research on alternative energy. Depends on the speed of the warming. These rinky dink measures like changing light bulbs are just indoctrination.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Americans Have Some Strange Ideas About What Causes Global Warming &#8211; CleanTechnica</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this is too sad, isn&#039;t it? 

but great post, Susan.. interesting stuff and hopefully you helped clear up some issues for folks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is too sad, isn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>but great post, Susan.. interesting stuff and hopefully you helped clear up some issues for folks!</p>
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