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	<title>Comments on: PG&amp;E Solar Rebate Flatlines Just as Average Homeowner Hears About it</title>
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		<title>By: California Solar Engineering</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/10/10/pge-solar-rebate-flatlines-just-as-average-homeowner-hears-about-it/#comment-35588</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California Solar Engineering]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As another solar company we couldnt agree more! Solar is surely catching on, thankfully, but it is no were near mass market because it is still way too expensive. once the $/watt goes down a bit more people will be able to afford solar with out the rebates, but until then why shouldnt solar get the decade to incentives that our fossil fuels are still receiving?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As another solar company we couldnt agree more! Solar is surely catching on, thankfully, but it is no were near mass market because it is still way too expensive. once the $/watt goes down a bit more people will be able to afford solar with out the rebates, but until then why shouldnt solar get the decade to incentives that our fossil fuels are still receiving?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I quite agree. PG&amp;E does a great job for solar. Although it is generally called the PG&amp;E rebate up here it is actually funded by the state of California through the CSI, and the steps down are not PG&amp;E&#039;s decision, that was just the state assuming that by the time we had this many MW installed, we would be well on the way to market ready. But I don&#039;t think that is true. In fact your experience is an example of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I quite agree. PG&amp;E does a great job for solar. Although it is generally called the PG&amp;E rebate up here it is actually funded by the state of California through the CSI, and the steps down are not PG&amp;E&#8217;s decision, that was just the state assuming that by the time we had this many MW installed, we would be well on the way to market ready. But I don&#8217;t think that is true. In fact your experience is an example of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a solar sales rep for the past 2 years I can tell you that PG&amp;E has done a great job of funding the rebates in a timely manner.  I have been selling 8 to 9 systems in PG&amp;E territory per month for the past 2 years.  The rebates were always scheduled to go down. This isn&#039;t PG&amp;Es fault, this is a scheduled drop based on how much the state of California was willing to fund.  Most people in the solar industry have been diligently on the phone talking to people, but only about 5% of homeowners we talk to either qualify for solar or are even interested.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a solar sales rep for the past 2 years I can tell you that PG&amp;E has done a great job of funding the rebates in a timely manner.  I have been selling 8 to 9 systems in PG&amp;E territory per month for the past 2 years.  The rebates were always scheduled to go down. This isn&#8217;t PG&amp;Es fault, this is a scheduled drop based on how much the state of California was willing to fund.  Most people in the solar industry have been diligently on the phone talking to people, but only about 5% of homeowners we talk to either qualify for solar or are even interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/10/10/pge-solar-rebate-flatlines-just-as-average-homeowner-hears-about-it/#comment-34519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roger, billboards are about what&#039;s needed, all right. But you and are surrounded by ads on the internet for energy, because that&#039;s what we read and write about on the internet. You are probably imagining that everyone is exposed to all that,but a lot of places use &#039;relevant ads&#039; 

It does seem inconceivable to me, just how little people know about these rebates, given how I am surrounded by a wealth of info on this sort of thing. But it was what made me start thinking about the information ghettos we are all in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, billboards are about what&#8217;s needed, all right. But you and are surrounded by ads on the internet for energy, because that&#8217;s what we read and write about on the internet. You are probably imagining that everyone is exposed to all that,but a lot of places use &#8216;relevant ads&#8217; </p>
<p>It does seem inconceivable to me, just how little people know about these rebates, given how I am surrounded by a wealth of info on this sort of thing. But it was what made me start thinking about the information ghettos we are all in.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/10/10/pge-solar-rebate-flatlines-just-as-average-homeowner-hears-about-it/#comment-34515</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See? Ignoramuses, all of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See? Ignoramuses, all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/10/10/pge-solar-rebate-flatlines-just-as-average-homeowner-hears-about-it/#comment-34502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Britney who?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Britney who?</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Lauricella</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/10/10/pge-solar-rebate-flatlines-just-as-average-homeowner-hears-about-it/#comment-34357</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Lauricella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Susan:

In the Desert area of Palm Springs where I work and are involved in Wind and Solar (now), there is considerable competition and advertisement to the public about the CSI rebate structure (mostly its benefits) both through the old MSM (newspapers ,radio, billboards and TV) and on the internet.     These advertisements are slightly less in number in the Los Angeles area but nevertheless they are all around.   The main problem seen down here is ensuring enough up front available financing is in place to await the state CSI and federal rebates coming in after paperwork is filled out.    The more astute businesses installing and selling solar are getting the Chinese (who tend to provide the panels) to front the financing on the front end with some equity position on the backend.  CSI rebates after about what appears is a long time but is really short is finally coming in at 90-120 days and the feds have finally started paying at 90-120 days also.    The Fed Audit dept of the Inspector General for the Treasury just came out to do the first audits of installations (to ensure they were actually installed) in the Inland empire.  As usual it appears a bureaucracy created (either by the State or Feds) to cover something took a while to get off the ground.   The feds that we saw hinted they would have been here sooner and the process might have been smoother and quicker but they had rules requiring them to draft regulations that they did not have in place before moving forward.  It must be said its not SOCAL Edison that is leading the charge here in SOCAL for any rebates or advertisement of rebates, its the private entrepreneur that is in business to make money from solar installations and/or leasing arrangements.    I am not sure you can really count on the Utility (SOCAL ED or PG&amp;E) to take the lead if for instance someone like SOCAL Edison here is more hyped on their larger 100+MW rooftop projects in the Inland Empire than smaller installations not owned by them.    Whether you agree with what PG&amp;E does in terms of count against Step 7 or Step 8, what do the rules for the Legislation say for CSI, they are probably written to give PG&amp;E the right to reconfigure the way they wish.    As a side note, someones interest in solar panel installations (whether on a business or home) comes more from seeing an actual installation in ones neighborhood or on a colleagues business and then asking how one can do it also.   This seems to be what we see playing out regardless of any advertisements on either the MSM or internet.    Who will pay for your Walter Cronkite expansion of information Susan??   If it&#039;s not written into the legislation and funded (oh, yes we do have a funding problem and budget problem in Taxifornia) who will do it but the entreprenuer who can make money from the installations.    Those entreprenuers tend to be area or regional focused expect for a few very large ones who are using the MSM and new media for dessimination of their message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan:</p>
<p>In the Desert area of Palm Springs where I work and are involved in Wind and Solar (now), there is considerable competition and advertisement to the public about the CSI rebate structure (mostly its benefits) both through the old MSM (newspapers ,radio, billboards and TV) and on the internet.     These advertisements are slightly less in number in the Los Angeles area but nevertheless they are all around.   The main problem seen down here is ensuring enough up front available financing is in place to await the state CSI and federal rebates coming in after paperwork is filled out.    The more astute businesses installing and selling solar are getting the Chinese (who tend to provide the panels) to front the financing on the front end with some equity position on the backend.  CSI rebates after about what appears is a long time but is really short is finally coming in at 90-120 days and the feds have finally started paying at 90-120 days also.    The Fed Audit dept of the Inspector General for the Treasury just came out to do the first audits of installations (to ensure they were actually installed) in the Inland empire.  As usual it appears a bureaucracy created (either by the State or Feds) to cover something took a while to get off the ground.   The feds that we saw hinted they would have been here sooner and the process might have been smoother and quicker but they had rules requiring them to draft regulations that they did not have in place before moving forward.  It must be said its not SOCAL Edison that is leading the charge here in SOCAL for any rebates or advertisement of rebates, its the private entrepreneur that is in business to make money from solar installations and/or leasing arrangements.    I am not sure you can really count on the Utility (SOCAL ED or PG&amp;E) to take the lead if for instance someone like SOCAL Edison here is more hyped on their larger 100+MW rooftop projects in the Inland Empire than smaller installations not owned by them.    Whether you agree with what PG&amp;E does in terms of count against Step 7 or Step 8, what do the rules for the Legislation say for CSI, they are probably written to give PG&amp;E the right to reconfigure the way they wish.    As a side note, someones interest in solar panel installations (whether on a business or home) comes more from seeing an actual installation in ones neighborhood or on a colleagues business and then asking how one can do it also.   This seems to be what we see playing out regardless of any advertisements on either the MSM or internet.    Who will pay for your Walter Cronkite expansion of information Susan??   If it&#8217;s not written into the legislation and funded (oh, yes we do have a funding problem and budget problem in Taxifornia) who will do it but the entreprenuer who can make money from the installations.    Those entreprenuers tend to be area or regional focused expect for a few very large ones who are using the MSM and new media for dessimination of their message.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/10/10/pge-solar-rebate-flatlines-just-as-average-homeowner-hears-about-it/#comment-34330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 22:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, that drop is all the way through Step 1 through Step 8. Step 1 was about 2 years ago]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that drop is all the way through Step 1 through Step 8. Step 1 was about 2 years ago</p>
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		<title>By: PG&#38;E Solar Rebate Flatlines Just as Average Homeowner Hears About it &#8211; CleanTechnica &#171; SolarRetailer.org</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/10/10/pge-solar-rebate-flatlines-just-as-average-homeowner-hears-about-it/#comment-34305</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PG&#38;E Solar Rebate Flatlines Just as Average Homeowner Hears About it &#8211; CleanTechnica &#171; SolarRetailer.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] CleanTechnica [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Energy monitor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Energy monitor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s quite the drop, I haven&#039;t been impressed by what I&#039;ve seen from PG&amp;E lately]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s quite the drop, I haven&#8217;t been impressed by what I&#8217;ve seen from PG&amp;E lately</p>
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