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	<title>Comments on: World&#039;s Largest Concentrating Solar Power Plant to Come Up in Abu Dhabi</title>
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		<title>By: David Zhao</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Zhao]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 03:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, everybody,
I&#039;m the managing director of Huabao Asia Development Ltd. Hong Kong, an investment company based in Suzhou, China. Zhendan Photovoltaic Technology Company, one of Huabao’s directors, hopes to join hands in partnership with firms based in the Middle East. Quick response and contact will be highly appreciated.

David]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, everybody,<br />
I&#8217;m the managing director of Huabao Asia Development Ltd. Hong Kong, an investment company based in Suzhou, China. Zhendan Photovoltaic Technology Company, one of Huabao’s directors, hopes to join hands in partnership with firms based in the Middle East. Quick response and contact will be highly appreciated.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Ottawa Solar Power</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/06/12/worlds-largest-concentrating-solar-power-plant-to-come-up-in-abu-dhabi/#comment-9747</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ottawa Solar Power]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fact is that solar energy is becoming increasingly cost effective.  There have been many advancements in the technology recently that make it a viable option.  It is clear, in light of the recent oil crisis with BP, that it is necessary for us to actively pursue alternative energy sources. Whether or not the plan is perfect, it is a step in the right direction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is that solar energy is becoming increasingly cost effective.  There have been many advancements in the technology recently that make it a viable option.  It is clear, in light of the recent oil crisis with BP, that it is necessary for us to actively pursue alternative energy sources. Whether or not the plan is perfect, it is a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Sternberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Sternberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 08:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Mridul, i am with an executive search firm based in Dubai, U.A.E.. I am currently searching for a Project Manager for one of the top engineering consultancies having global presence. A Project Manager that has experience with CSP.



Being new to the solar industry, particularly Concentrating Solar Power, i would like to ask for your advise regarding companies that excel is CSP. I have read in articles that CSP is not just a solar technology that can be applied anywhere but has criterias to make the CSP project a viable one.



I am aware that Spain and the U.S. are the top countries that invests in CSP projects. In your opinion, does Asia invests on CSP heavily as well or are they more into PV ? Best regards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mridul, i am with an executive search firm based in Dubai, U.A.E.. I am currently searching for a Project Manager for one of the top engineering consultancies having global presence. A Project Manager that has experience with CSP.</p>
<p>Being new to the solar industry, particularly Concentrating Solar Power, i would like to ask for your advise regarding companies that excel is CSP. I have read in articles that CSP is not just a solar technology that can be applied anywhere but has criterias to make the CSP project a viable one.</p>
<p>I am aware that Spain and the U.S. are the top countries that invests in CSP projects. In your opinion, does Asia invests on CSP heavily as well or are they more into PV ? Best regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Mridul Chadha</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/06/12/worlds-largest-concentrating-solar-power-plant-to-come-up-in-abu-dhabi/#comment-9745</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mridul Chadha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And what about the security threats, waste management, danger of toxic spills and the scarce fuel add to that the strategic mess it could create for the whole region. You will have no such problems with the solar power plant. Even the developed countries like the US, UK and France are struggling to manage the nuclear waste.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what about the security threats, waste management, danger of toxic spills and the scarce fuel add to that the strategic mess it could create for the whole region. You will have no such problems with the solar power plant. Even the developed countries like the US, UK and France are struggling to manage the nuclear waste.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 04:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;They&#039;re not short of space in the desert&quot;



Do you really think that&#039;s a legit reason to ignore the HUGE difference in energy per square meter compared to nuclear energy?



It is possible to turn desert back into productive land that is able to support trees that would actually do something to correct any carbon problems we may have.  But instead, you would rather support this silly technology that won&#039;t put any kind of dent in carbon emissions with it&#039;s minuscule energy production.



Keep up the good work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They&#8217;re not short of space in the desert&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you really think that&#8217;s a legit reason to ignore the HUGE difference in energy per square meter compared to nuclear energy?</p>
<p>It is possible to turn desert back into productive land that is able to support trees that would actually do something to correct any carbon problems we may have.  But instead, you would rather support this silly technology that won&#8217;t put any kind of dent in carbon emissions with it&#8217;s minuscule energy production.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I fail to see why it wouldn&#039;t be cost effective to STORE the heat over night and during the few cloudy days they have. They could skip the cost of the gas plant and put it towards heat storage; the temp at night or a cloudy day is likely still hot enough to make insulated hot oil tanks possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to see why it wouldn&#8217;t be cost effective to STORE the heat over night and during the few cloudy days they have. They could skip the cost of the gas plant and put it towards heat storage; the temp at night or a cloudy day is likely still hot enough to make insulated hot oil tanks possible.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidCG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidCG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Rod Adams,



You&#039;re missing the obvious: power draw in hot climates is primarily during the day for air conditioning.



Also, the technology already exists to have 24 hour solar thermal electricity: http://www.beyondzeroemissions.org/media/releases/solar-power-all-through-night-100202



And the cost trajectory for all renewable energy is rapidly down - the opposite of nuclear. That might explain why French nuclear firm, Areva is investing in solar thermal: http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/16/french-nuclear-giant-areva-buys-ausra-concentrated-solar-thermal-power-market-csp/



&gt; ...covers a larger area...



They&#039;re not short of space in the desert. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rod Adams,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re missing the obvious: power draw in hot climates is primarily during the day for air conditioning.</p>
<p>Also, the technology already exists to have 24 hour solar thermal electricity: <a href="http://www.beyondzeroemissions.org/media/releases/solar-power-all-through-night-100202" rel="nofollow">http://www.beyondzeroemissions.org/media/releases/solar-power-all-through-night-100202</a></p>
<p>And the cost trajectory for all renewable energy is rapidly down &#8211; the opposite of nuclear. That might explain why French nuclear firm, Areva is investing in solar thermal: <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/16/french-nuclear-giant-areva-buys-ausra-concentrated-solar-thermal-power-market-csp/" rel="nofollow">http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/16/french-nuclear-giant-areva-buys-ausra-concentrated-solar-thermal-power-market-csp/</a></p>
<p>&gt; &#8230;covers a larger area&#8230;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re not short of space in the desert. <img src="http://cleantechnica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Woods</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/06/12/worlds-largest-concentrating-solar-power-plant-to-come-up-in-abu-dhabi/#comment-9740</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;span 2.5 square meters ( one square mile).&quot; should be

&#039;span 2.5 square &lt;b&gt;kilo&lt;/b&gt;meters (one square mile).&#039;



$600 M/100 MW(peak) ~ $18/W(average)



I guess burning gas to get useful power beats simply flaring it off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;span 2.5 square meters ( one square mile).&#8221; should be</p>
<p>&#8216;span 2.5 square <b>kilo</b>meters (one square mile).&#8217;</p>
<p>$600 M/100 MW(peak) ~ $18/W(average)</p>
<p>I guess burning gas to get useful power beats simply flaring it off.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Small mistake in the article:

&quot;2.5 square meters ( one square mile)&quot;



Also, Is the plant close to the ocean?  do you know if they will be using it to convert salt water to fresh water?  This process can be done for &quot;free&quot; with concentrated solar plants and Abu Dhabi uses quite a lot of energy in desalination plants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small mistake in the article:</p>
<p>&#8220;2.5 square meters ( one square mile)&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, Is the plant close to the ocean?  do you know if they will be using it to convert salt water to fresh water?  This process can be done for &#8220;free&#8221; with concentrated solar plants and Abu Dhabi uses quite a lot of energy in desalination plants.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS - here are a couple of links to articles describing the UAE&#039;s nuclear decision:



http://djysrv.blogspot.com/2010/05/uae-picks-sites-to-build-four-reactors.html



http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN_UAE_has_its_first_nuclear_site_2304102.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; here are a couple of links to articles describing the UAE&#8217;s nuclear decision:</p>
<p><a href="http://djysrv.blogspot.com/2010/05/uae-picks-sites-to-build-four-reactors.html" rel="nofollow">http://djysrv.blogspot.com/2010/05/uae-picks-sites-to-build-four-reactors.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN_UAE_has_its_first_nuclear_site_2304102.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN_UAE_has_its_first_nuclear_site_2304102.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rod Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mridul - unless Abu Dhabi is on another planet that does not rotate, it receives sunlight only half of the time on average and the sunlight that it does receive is reduced in intensity by the sine of the elevation angle. In the sunniest of locations around the world, the average measure of solar intensity is about 25% of the peak value.



Do you have any real data about the quantity of gas that will be burned? Having visited the Middle East, I know that they often shift a lot of their productive work hours to periods when the sun is not high in the sky or even visible in the sky. How does their normal power demand vary on a time of day basis?



Finally, it is worth pointing out that the UAE is planning to build four nuclear power plants with a total capacity of 5,600 MWe that might be able to achieve average capacity factors of 80-90%. That technology is far more likely to be a long term replacement for fossil fuel consumption; a 100 MWe (peak power) solar plant with natural gas supplements that covers a larger area than all four nuclear plants combined will cover is a mere distraction compared to that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mridul &#8211; unless Abu Dhabi is on another planet that does not rotate, it receives sunlight only half of the time on average and the sunlight that it does receive is reduced in intensity by the sine of the elevation angle. In the sunniest of locations around the world, the average measure of solar intensity is about 25% of the peak value.</p>
<p>Do you have any real data about the quantity of gas that will be burned? Having visited the Middle East, I know that they often shift a lot of their productive work hours to periods when the sun is not high in the sky or even visible in the sky. How does their normal power demand vary on a time of day basis?</p>
<p>Finally, it is worth pointing out that the UAE is planning to build four nuclear power plants with a total capacity of 5,600 MWe that might be able to achieve average capacity factors of 80-90%. That technology is far more likely to be a long term replacement for fossil fuel consumption; a 100 MWe (peak power) solar plant with natural gas supplements that covers a larger area than all four nuclear plants combined will cover is a mere distraction compared to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Balaji Kartha</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Balaji Kartha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could you put me in touch with Abengoa Solar? Any idea if they would be interested in coming to India?

We are a start up that has found the funds but are looking for a credible technology partner to join us for a CSP project here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you put me in touch with Abengoa Solar? Any idea if they would be interested in coming to India?</p>
<p>We are a start up that has found the funds but are looking for a credible technology partner to join us for a CSP project here.</p>
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		<title>By: Mridul Chadha</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mridul Chadha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That would come into action when there isn&#039;t enough sunlight to generate 100 MW. I doubt that there would be a scarcity of sunlight in Abu Dhabi. Even if the gas turbine comes online it would contribute only a small part of the total capacity. The gas turbine won&#039;t work continuously. It is a backup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would come into action when there isn&#8217;t enough sunlight to generate 100 MW. I doubt that there would be a scarcity of sunlight in Abu Dhabi. Even if the gas turbine comes online it would contribute only a small part of the total capacity. The gas turbine won&#8217;t work continuously. It is a backup.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 07:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you really give it that title when the power generated includes a natural gas plant?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you really give it that title when the power generated includes a natural gas plant?</p>
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