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	<title>Comments on: PG&amp;E&#039;s New Flatter Rate Proposal Could Slow Rooftop Solar Development in California</title>
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		<title>By: J Wood</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-120277</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J Wood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m tired of single women living in San Diego writing our energy policies.  It&#039;s written for single people, living in San Diego, LA Area,  If I live alone I get to use a ton of energy, I don&#039;t have to conserve at all.  It&#039;s a very unfair system, it says a family of 4 each person gets to use 1/4 of what a person living alone gets to use.  How is this fair?  How is this conserving anything.  It further allows me to use much more energy in the summer, cause in San Diego &amp; LA they blow their AC&#039;s all the time.  In the winter since San Diego/LA has mild winters they don&#039;t care so much that the limit is cut way back.  A very biased system.  And solar?  I had solar 35 years ago, I paid to have it installed, never recouped the outlay before we moved.  And today the Solar company&#039;s want a fortune that no one has just to have it installed.  Our entire environmental system has been run by idiots for decades.  I guess whoever reads this is part of the problem.... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tired of single women living in San Diego writing our energy policies.  It&#8217;s written for single people, living in San Diego, LA Area,  If I live alone I get to use a ton of energy, I don&#8217;t have to conserve at all.  It&#8217;s a very unfair system, it says a family of 4 each person gets to use 1/4 of what a person living alone gets to use.  How is this fair?  How is this conserving anything.  It further allows me to use much more energy in the summer, cause in San Diego &amp; LA they blow their AC&#8217;s all the time.  In the winter since San Diego/LA has mild winters they don&#8217;t care so much that the limit is cut way back.  A very biased system.  And solar?  I had solar 35 years ago, I paid to have it installed, never recouped the outlay before we moved.  And today the Solar company&#8217;s want a fortune that no one has just to have it installed.  Our entire environmental system has been run by idiots for decades.  I guess whoever reads this is part of the problem&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: pjd</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-76774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pjd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and it is exactly right that this move by PG&amp;E is about keeping market share by removing economic incentive to buy solar residential power production, and it is right that this means PG&amp;E is attempting to cause more air pollution in the future with this rate change and PG&amp;E should be forced to offer a $5000 solar installation rebate to customers that are currently in the 4th and 5th tier as an encouragement to the continuation of the trend to move to solar]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and it is exactly right that this move by PG&amp;E is about keeping market share by removing economic incentive to buy solar residential power production, and it is right that this means PG&amp;E is attempting to cause more air pollution in the future with this rate change and PG&amp;E should be forced to offer a $5000 solar installation rebate to customers that are currently in the 4th and 5th tier as an encouragement to the continuation of the trend to move to solar</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9132</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 19:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Small changes...yes, and BIG changes can save MORE money, and MORE greenhouse gases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small changes&#8230;yes, and BIG changes can save MORE money, and MORE greenhouse gases.</p>
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		<title>By: automation</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[automation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Climate change is a global problem, and yet each one of us has the power to make a difference. Even small changes in our daily behaviour can help prevent greenhouse gas emissions without affecting our quality of life. In fact, they can help save us money!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate change is a global problem, and yet each one of us has the power to make a difference. Even small changes in our daily behaviour can help prevent greenhouse gas emissions without affecting our quality of life. In fact, they can help save us money!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9130</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point:

 &quot;PG&amp;E’s proposal would result in more families having SOME financial incentive to go solar, but would dramatically reduce the number with a HUGE incentive to do so.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point:</p>
<p> &#8220;PG&amp;E’s proposal would result in more families having SOME financial incentive to go solar, but would dramatically reduce the number with a HUGE incentive to do so.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Karney</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9129</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Karney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rates that PG&amp;E is proposing are pretty similar to San Diego Gas and Electric&#039;s current rates.  Residential solar is selling like hotcakes in San Diego.  In fact, the Tier 6 rebates are gone there, while Tier 6 rebates will be around for another few weeks in PG&amp;E territory.



The northern part of the state isn&#039;t quite as sunny as San Diego County, but there&#039;s still a strong economic reason to go solar if your marginal price for grid power is $.30.  By proposing to reduce baseline quantities by about 9%, PG&amp;E&#039;s proposal would result in more families having SOME financial incentive to go solar, but would dramatically reduce the number with a HUGE incentive to do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rates that PG&amp;E is proposing are pretty similar to San Diego Gas and Electric&#8217;s current rates.  Residential solar is selling like hotcakes in San Diego.  In fact, the Tier 6 rebates are gone there, while Tier 6 rebates will be around for another few weeks in PG&amp;E territory.</p>
<p>The northern part of the state isn&#8217;t quite as sunny as San Diego County, but there&#8217;s still a strong economic reason to go solar if your marginal price for grid power is $.30.  By proposing to reduce baseline quantities by about 9%, PG&amp;E&#8217;s proposal would result in more families having SOME financial incentive to go solar, but would dramatically reduce the number with a HUGE incentive to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9128</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding an EV: I agree, do not add one if you keep PG&amp;E&#039;s tiered rates! The highest tiers will mean close to $0.50 cents a kwh to charge.

However, that math looks much better, if you supply it with solar (that amounts to about $0.12 - $0.25 per kilowatt hour) to charge it. A solar powered EV would be  cheaper than a gasoline car to run.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding an EV: I agree, do not add one if you keep PG&amp;E&#8217;s tiered rates! The highest tiers will mean close to $0.50 cents a kwh to charge.</p>
<p>However, that math looks much better, if you supply it with solar (that amounts to about $0.12 &#8211; $0.25 per kilowatt hour) to charge it. A solar powered EV would be  cheaper than a gasoline car to run.</p>
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		<title>By: gus</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9127</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nobody is saying that heavy users should pay the same as light users.  Even a completely flat rate would charge people proportional to usage.  The problem is that the tiered system has become extreme.  Production costs for electricity keep increasing but moderate users have seen no increase whereas heavy users are paying for all of it. Is that a good thing?  The average user is getting a huge subsidy and no longer even covers the cost of the electricity that they use.  As high end customers go solar and average users use their political power to avoid paying the real costs, the burden will continue to be shouldered by a shrinking customer base.



Eventually things get so out of whack that the system becomes an obstacle to choice.  Two families sharing the one home pay 4x the electricity cost of two families in two homes.  Self employed and working at home - forget about it when your work and home costs get grouped together and you pay double the usage at double the rate.  My family&#039;s electricity costs skyrocketed out of proportion to our additional usage when we had kids and my wife started spending the days with them at home.



Finally, thinking about an electric vehicle? At $.50/kwH the fuel alone is more expensive than gas.  Of course, PG&amp;E could make exceptions for all these things but I&#039;d prefer not to turn my electricity provider into the IRS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody is saying that heavy users should pay the same as light users.  Even a completely flat rate would charge people proportional to usage.  The problem is that the tiered system has become extreme.  Production costs for electricity keep increasing but moderate users have seen no increase whereas heavy users are paying for all of it. Is that a good thing?  The average user is getting a huge subsidy and no longer even covers the cost of the electricity that they use.  As high end customers go solar and average users use their political power to avoid paying the real costs, the burden will continue to be shouldered by a shrinking customer base.</p>
<p>Eventually things get so out of whack that the system becomes an obstacle to choice.  Two families sharing the one home pay 4x the electricity cost of two families in two homes.  Self employed and working at home &#8211; forget about it when your work and home costs get grouped together and you pay double the usage at double the rate.  My family&#8217;s electricity costs skyrocketed out of proportion to our additional usage when we had kids and my wife started spending the days with them at home.</p>
<p>Finally, thinking about an electric vehicle? At $.50/kwH the fuel alone is more expensive than gas.  Of course, PG&amp;E could make exceptions for all these things but I&#8217;d prefer not to turn my electricity provider into the IRS.</p>
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		<title>By: Nami</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a one-two punch.  Not only do moderate users have to pay more for their electricity, but there&#039;ll be greater pressure to use dirty power (v. clean solar)?  This doesn&#039;t seem to align with the direction our country has to take to reach a sustainable clean energy economy.



Going solar is a great way for homeowners to take control of their electricity costs and help the environment at the same time.  I hope this proposal remains just that - a proposal!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a one-two punch.  Not only do moderate users have to pay more for their electricity, but there&#8217;ll be greater pressure to use dirty power (v. clean solar)?  This doesn&#8217;t seem to align with the direction our country has to take to reach a sustainable clean energy economy.</p>
<p>Going solar is a great way for homeowners to take control of their electricity costs and help the environment at the same time.  I hope this proposal remains just that &#8211; a proposal!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9125</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meant &quot;more than&quot; 4 times, thanks, will fix. Top is between 44 cents and 50 cents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant &#8220;more than&#8221; 4 times, thanks, will fix. Top is between 44 cents and 50 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Woods</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;People in California’s hinterlands pay a very high price for electricity. ... and  they now pay four times the base rate for it. ...

They want to reduce that amount to only three times the base rate of 11 cents a kilowatt hour – to 30 cents a kilowatt hour, dropping almost 20 cents.&quot;



One of these numbers is wrong; a cut from 4x to 3x 11¢/kW·h is only 11 cents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People in California’s hinterlands pay a very high price for electricity. &#8230; and  they now pay four times the base rate for it. &#8230;</p>
<p>They want to reduce that amount to only three times the base rate of 11 cents a kilowatt hour – to 30 cents a kilowatt hour, dropping almost 20 cents.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of these numbers is wrong; a cut from 4x to 3x 11¢/kW·h is only 11 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: ECD Fan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ECD Fan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, peak demand is something different.  Peak demand in CA is about 50-60 gigawatts.  1GW-rated installations of PV solar generate 800MW AC or less at peak, based on the 20-yr hourly data at http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/calculators/PVWATTS/version1/US/California/ (note though that the PV&#039;s peak hour does not coincide with the grid peak hour).  Now we are talking about something like 1.6%, but things gets complicated as one really has to look on a second-by-second basis to calculate the true percentages.  You are welcome to provide any references with actual data in them.



The fact that DSIRE (N.C. Solar Center and the Interstate Renewable Energy Council) say something, doesn&#039;t make it necessarily true.



[&lt;em&gt;No ECD, DSIRE is actually the Database of State Incentives for Renewables &amp; Efficiency. (Not the North Carolina something something)



It is from the US Department of Energy. As such it is a reliable source of data.&lt;/em&gt;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, peak demand is something different.  Peak demand in CA is about 50-60 gigawatts.  1GW-rated installations of PV solar generate 800MW AC or less at peak, based on the 20-yr hourly data at <a href="http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/calculators/PVWATTS/version1/US/California/" rel="nofollow">http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/calculators/PVWATTS/version1/US/California/</a> (note though that the PV&#8217;s peak hour does not coincide with the grid peak hour).  Now we are talking about something like 1.6%, but things gets complicated as one really has to look on a second-by-second basis to calculate the true percentages.  You are welcome to provide any references with actual data in them.</p>
<p>The fact that DSIRE (N.C. Solar Center and the Interstate Renewable Energy Council) say something, doesn&#8217;t make it necessarily true.</p>
<p>[<em>No ECD, DSIRE is actually the Database of State Incentives for Renewables &amp; Efficiency. (Not the North Carolina something something)</p>
<p>It is from the US Department of Energy. As such it is a reliable source of data.</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9122</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, ECD: Per DSIRE - The &quot;homeowners&quot; (non-utility) solar limit has just been lifted to allow &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dsireusa.org/incentives/incentive.cfm?Incentive_Code=CA02R&amp;re=1&amp;ee=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;up to 5% (link) &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;of utilities&#039; peak demand as keeping that cap at only up to the 2.5% as originally legislated was in danger of slowing solar installations.



&quot;AB 510 essentially doubles the number of people able to go solar in California. Before today, the number of Californians able to take advantage of this net metering program was capped at 2.5 percent of a utility&#039;s load. So, as soon as a utility got 2.5 percent of its electricity from net metered solar customers, it was no longer obligated to sign new net metering contracts. Now that cap stands at five percent&quot;. (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/feb2010/2010-02-27-091.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;link&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;)



But I agree that some of that DSIRE category of net metering-eligible entities is business-installed solar, (and not to supply a utility like under the SDE distributed solar plan).



But since businesses have very low rates for the same kwh as homeowners, this price pressure for hot regions falls only really on homeowners.



I don&#039;t know the rates for large businesses, but I found when estimating solar that a small business with A1 rates might only pay 10 cents a kwh, even with 2,000 kwh a month bill - hardly an incentive to add solar instead.



In most regions a homeowner with usage that high would pay over $500 a month.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, ECD: Per DSIRE &#8211; The &#8220;homeowners&#8221; (non-utility) solar limit has just been lifted to allow <a href="http://www.dsireusa.org/incentives/incentive.cfm?Incentive_Code=CA02R&amp;re=1&amp;ee=1" rel="nofollow"><strong>up to 5% (link) </strong></a>of utilities&#8217; peak demand as keeping that cap at only up to the 2.5% as originally legislated was in danger of slowing solar installations.</p>
<p>&#8220;AB 510 essentially doubles the number of people able to go solar in California. Before today, the number of Californians able to take advantage of this net metering program was capped at 2.5 percent of a utility&#8217;s load. So, as soon as a utility got 2.5 percent of its electricity from net metered solar customers, it was no longer obligated to sign new net metering contracts. Now that cap stands at five percent&#8221;. (<a href="http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/feb2010/2010-02-27-091.html" rel="nofollow"><strong>link</strong></a>)</p>
<p>But I agree that some of that DSIRE category of net metering-eligible entities is business-installed solar, (and not to supply a utility like under the SDE distributed solar plan).</p>
<p>But since businesses have very low rates for the same kwh as homeowners, this price pressure for hot regions falls only really on homeowners.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the rates for large businesses, but I found when estimating solar that a small business with A1 rates might only pay 10 cents a kwh, even with 2,000 kwh a month bill &#8211; hardly an incentive to add solar instead.</p>
<p>In most regions a homeowner with usage that high would pay over $500 a month.</p>
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		<title>By: ECD Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ECD Fan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Susan, did you check your facts?  Or are we using Al Gore&#039;s math again?



EIA tells us that CA&#039;s net electricity generation was 205 million MWh in 2009.  PV Solar cumulative installation in CA is about 1GW.  1GW in CA generates about 1.3 million MWh.  1.3 divided by 205 is 0.6%, not 2.5%!



http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/table1_6_b.html



Why do you say then that &quot;homeowners’ solar now supplies more than 2.5% of the power on the grid?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, did you check your facts?  Or are we using Al Gore&#8217;s math again?</p>
<p>EIA tells us that CA&#8217;s net electricity generation was 205 million MWh in 2009.  PV Solar cumulative installation in CA is about 1GW.  1GW in CA generates about 1.3 million MWh.  1.3 divided by 205 is 0.6%, not 2.5%!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/table1_6_b.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/table1_6_b.html</a></p>
<p>Why do you say then that &#8220;homeowners’ solar now supplies more than 2.5% of the power on the grid?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: S Davis</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9120</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 04:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Baseline/tiered energy levels based on regional conditions (set by the CPUC) are merely a subsidy for those that live in hot inland areas on the backs of those who live in cooler coastal climes.  If the tiers were uniform, then living inland would cost a lot more, and rightly so.  By reducing the cost of living inland, growth in these areas is encouraged.  If tiers were flat across the utility&#039;s service area, the cost of living increase would encourage people to live where it truly is cheaper, and more efficient for all of us.



This is my experience in SCE&#039;s service area, where, last I knew, Indio, CA (middle of the desert) is their highest baseline area in the summertime, somewhere around 2000kwh vs. my ~500kwh (FOUR times higher!?), 12 miles from the coast.  People have a choice in where they live.  We shouldn&#039;t have to subsidize their choice.  Flatter rates = bogus to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baseline/tiered energy levels based on regional conditions (set by the CPUC) are merely a subsidy for those that live in hot inland areas on the backs of those who live in cooler coastal climes.  If the tiers were uniform, then living inland would cost a lot more, and rightly so.  By reducing the cost of living inland, growth in these areas is encouraged.  If tiers were flat across the utility&#8217;s service area, the cost of living increase would encourage people to live where it truly is cheaper, and more efficient for all of us.</p>
<p>This is my experience in SCE&#8217;s service area, where, last I knew, Indio, CA (middle of the desert) is their highest baseline area in the summertime, somewhere around 2000kwh vs. my ~500kwh (FOUR times higher!?), 12 miles from the coast.  People have a choice in where they live.  We shouldn&#8217;t have to subsidize their choice.  Flatter rates = bogus to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9119</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I see your point. But this wouldn&#039;t be one flat rate. It is just a bit... flattER. There is a larger number of &quot;base rate&quot; kilowatt hours allowed for hotter areas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I see your point. But this wouldn&#8217;t be one flat rate. It is just a bit&#8230; flattER. There is a larger number of &#8220;base rate&#8221; kilowatt hours allowed for hotter areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Gunther</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Gunther]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, I am paying that base PG&amp;E rate and I&#039;m careful with power consumption. Let go of my tier rate! I thought PG&amp;E has plans to move to Time Of Use rates anyway?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I am paying that base PG&amp;E rate and I&#8217;m careful with power consumption. Let go of my tier rate! I thought PG&amp;E has plans to move to Time Of Use rates anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Khürt</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/03/25/pges-new-flatter-rate-proposal-could-slow-rooftop-solar-development-in-california/#comment-9116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Khürt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We had a similar assinine flat rate pricing for water in my town. Home owner living in 1600 square foot townhomes were paying them same fixed monthly rate as homes 4000 sq ft homes with large lawns and backyard pools. Voters took care of that problem quickly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a similar assinine flat rate pricing for water in my town. Home owner living in 1600 square foot townhomes were paying them same fixed monthly rate as homes 4000 sq ft homes with large lawns and backyard pools. Voters took care of that problem quickly.</p>
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