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		<title>By: Bill Woods</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-8826</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You left out China&#039;s biggest source of new clean power:



&quot;Additional reactors are planned, including some of the world&#039;s most advanced, to give a sixfold increase in nuclear capacity to at least 60 GWe or possibly more by 2020, and then a further substantial increase to 160 GWe by 2030.&quot;

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf63.html



And a watt of nuclear capacity is worth about three of wind or solar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You left out China&#8217;s biggest source of new clean power:</p>
<p>&#8220;Additional reactors are planned, including some of the world&#8217;s most advanced, to give a sixfold increase in nuclear capacity to at least 60 GWe or possibly more by 2020, and then a further substantial increase to 160 GWe by 2030.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf63.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf63.html</a></p>
<p>And a watt of nuclear capacity is worth about three of wind or solar.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Woods</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-26005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You left out China&#039;s biggest source of new clean power:



&quot;Additional reactors are planned, including some of the world&#039;s most advanced, to give a sixfold increase in nuclear capacity to at least 60 GWe or possibly more by 2020, and then a further substantial increase to 160 GWe by 2030.&quot;

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf63.html



And a watt of nuclear capacity is worth about three of wind or solar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You left out China&#8217;s biggest source of new clean power:</p>
<p>&#8220;Additional reactors are planned, including some of the world&#8217;s most advanced, to give a sixfold increase in nuclear capacity to at least 60 GWe or possibly more by 2020, and then a further substantial increase to 160 GWe by 2030.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf63.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf63.html</a></p>
<p>And a watt of nuclear capacity is worth about three of wind or solar.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucille Chi</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-8825</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucille Chi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great example of healthy competition between nations, thanks for stirring up this topic!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great example of healthy competition between nations, thanks for stirring up this topic!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucille Chi</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-26004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucille Chi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great example of healthy competition between nations, thanks for stirring up this topic!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great example of healthy competition between nations, thanks for stirring up this topic!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-8824</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is very frustrating that the senate is so completely paralyzed right now that we are not able to do things that are obviously good to do. This highlights the advantage of China&#039;s system.



The disadvantage of China&#039;s system, however, is that they might sometimes move too quickly in the wrong direction. Building multiple gigawatts of renewable energy production on a whim can have unintended consequences. Is it located near population centers? Can the grid handle the variable nature of the new energy sources? Are there standards in place to make sure that these things are installed and maintained correctly?



Consider this analogy -- if the Chinese government ordered the production of 100 billion gallons of baby formula, I&#039;m sure it would happen quickly and impressively. But would you let your kid drink it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very frustrating that the senate is so completely paralyzed right now that we are not able to do things that are obviously good to do. This highlights the advantage of China&#8217;s system.</p>
<p>The disadvantage of China&#8217;s system, however, is that they might sometimes move too quickly in the wrong direction. Building multiple gigawatts of renewable energy production on a whim can have unintended consequences. Is it located near population centers? Can the grid handle the variable nature of the new energy sources? Are there standards in place to make sure that these things are installed and maintained correctly?</p>
<p>Consider this analogy &#8212; if the Chinese government ordered the production of 100 billion gallons of baby formula, I&#8217;m sure it would happen quickly and impressively. But would you let your kid drink it?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-26003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is very frustrating that the senate is so completely paralyzed right now that we are not able to do things that are obviously good to do. This highlights the advantage of China&#039;s system.



The disadvantage of China&#039;s system, however, is that they might sometimes move too quickly in the wrong direction. Building multiple gigawatts of renewable energy production on a whim can have unintended consequences. Is it located near population centers? Can the grid handle the variable nature of the new energy sources? Are there standards in place to make sure that these things are installed and maintained correctly?



Consider this analogy -- if the Chinese government ordered the production of 100 billion gallons of baby formula, I&#039;m sure it would happen quickly and impressively. But would you let your kid drink it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very frustrating that the senate is so completely paralyzed right now that we are not able to do things that are obviously good to do. This highlights the advantage of China&#8217;s system.</p>
<p>The disadvantage of China&#8217;s system, however, is that they might sometimes move too quickly in the wrong direction. Building multiple gigawatts of renewable energy production on a whim can have unintended consequences. Is it located near population centers? Can the grid handle the variable nature of the new energy sources? Are there standards in place to make sure that these things are installed and maintained correctly?</p>
<p>Consider this analogy &#8212; if the Chinese government ordered the production of 100 billion gallons of baby formula, I&#8217;m sure it would happen quickly and impressively. But would you let your kid drink it?</p>
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		<title>By: Christof</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-26001</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have mixed feelings - on the one hand, the U.S. ought to be doing more on renewable energy. On the other, I don&#039;t believe massive solar plants are the best way to go. While I recognize some of these might be necessary, there&#039;s plenty of rooftop -- and parking lot -- space in the U.S. that could be covered by solar that&#039;s a lot closer to where the electricity that&#039;s being generated will be used. For instance, a study by the Energy Foundation found that &quot;Residential and commercial rooftop space in the U.S. could accommodate up to 710,000 MW of solar electric power,&quot; which is 75% of the nation&#039;s current electric consumption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have mixed feelings &#8211; on the one hand, the U.S. ought to be doing more on renewable energy. On the other, I don&#8217;t believe massive solar plants are the best way to go. While I recognize some of these might be necessary, there&#8217;s plenty of rooftop &#8212; and parking lot &#8212; space in the U.S. that could be covered by solar that&#8217;s a lot closer to where the electricity that&#8217;s being generated will be used. For instance, a study by the Energy Foundation found that &#8220;Residential and commercial rooftop space in the U.S. could accommodate up to 710,000 MW of solar electric power,&#8221; which is 75% of the nation&#8217;s current electric consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-8823</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christof, i totally agree with you on that. thanks for that comment.



duchesnes, thanks for the extra info as well. there is definitely more to cover on this than what is in the article..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christof, i totally agree with you on that. thanks for that comment.</p>
<p>duchesnes, thanks for the extra info as well. there is definitely more to cover on this than what is in the article..</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Shahan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-26002</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zachary Shahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christof, i totally agree with you on that. thanks for that comment.



duchesnes, thanks for the extra info as well. there is definitely more to cover on this than what is in the article..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christof, i totally agree with you on that. thanks for that comment.</p>
<p>duchesnes, thanks for the extra info as well. there is definitely more to cover on this than what is in the article..</p>
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		<title>By: duchesnes</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-8821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[duchesnes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A wind &quot;corridor&quot; of 20 GW doesn&#039;t tell us the size in square kilometers of the project or its averaged production in TWh/year.

Europe has big wind ambitions too. Consider this &quot; http://wind-eole.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Downloads/Offshore/European_Offshore_Wind_Map_2009.pdf&quot; and those projects are not with expected load factors under 20 but well above 30.

Almost 100 GW of off-shore wind projects are under consideration in the North and Baltic Seas alone. 1 GW (more) of off-shore windmills  are to be connected to the grid in 2010 in europe.

For a beginning...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wind &#8220;corridor&#8221; of 20 GW doesn&#8217;t tell us the size in square kilometers of the project or its averaged production in TWh/year.</p>
<p>Europe has big wind ambitions too. Consider this &#8221; <a href="http://wind-eole.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Downloads/Offshore/European_Offshore_Wind_Map_2009.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://wind-eole.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Downloads/Offshore/European_Offshore_Wind_Map_2009.pdf</a>&#8221; and those projects are not with expected load factors under 20 but well above 30.</p>
<p>Almost 100 GW of off-shore wind projects are under consideration in the North and Baltic Seas alone. 1 GW (more) of off-shore windmills  are to be connected to the grid in 2010 in europe.</p>
<p>For a beginning&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: duchesnes</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-26000</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[duchesnes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A wind &quot;corridor&quot; of 20 GW doesn&#039;t tell us the size in square kilometers of the project or its averaged production in TWh/year.

Europe has big wind ambitions too. Consider this &quot; http://wind-eole.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Downloads/Offshore/European_Offshore_Wind_Map_2009.pdf&quot; and those projects are not with expected load factors under 20 but well above 30.

Almost 100 GW of off-shore wind projects are under consideration in the North and Baltic Seas alone. 1 GW (more) of off-shore windmills  are to be connected to the grid in 2010 in europe.

For a beginning...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wind &#8220;corridor&#8221; of 20 GW doesn&#8217;t tell us the size in square kilometers of the project or its averaged production in TWh/year.</p>
<p>Europe has big wind ambitions too. Consider this &#8221; <a href="http://wind-eole.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Downloads/Offshore/European_Offshore_Wind_Map_2009.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://wind-eole.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Downloads/Offshore/European_Offshore_Wind_Map_2009.pdf</a>&#8221; and those projects are not with expected load factors under 20 but well above 30.</p>
<p>Almost 100 GW of off-shore wind projects are under consideration in the North and Baltic Seas alone. 1 GW (more) of off-shore windmills  are to be connected to the grid in 2010 in europe.</p>
<p>For a beginning&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ivory</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-8820</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so glad China is now well recognized as a potential leader of clean energy economy. It&#039;s not the point whether the government or the citizens who want to build so big or so many wind farms, but WHO has the ability to turn everybody&#039;s dream into reality is, the U.S. or the China. Because clean energy is a MUST. It&#039;s not about the bigger the better. It&#039;s about that you mean it and do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad China is now well recognized as a potential leader of clean energy economy. It&#8217;s not the point whether the government or the citizens who want to build so big or so many wind farms, but WHO has the ability to turn everybody&#8217;s dream into reality is, the U.S. or the China. Because clean energy is a MUST. It&#8217;s not about the bigger the better. It&#8217;s about that you mean it and do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivory</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-25999</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so glad China is now well recognized as a potential leader of clean energy economy. It&#039;s not the point whether the government or the citizens who want to build so big or so many wind farms, but WHO has the ability to turn everybody&#039;s dream into reality is, the U.S. or the China. Because clean energy is a MUST. It&#039;s not about the bigger the better. It&#039;s about that you mean it and do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad China is now well recognized as a potential leader of clean energy economy. It&#8217;s not the point whether the government or the citizens who want to build so big or so many wind farms, but WHO has the ability to turn everybody&#8217;s dream into reality is, the U.S. or the China. Because clean energy is a MUST. It&#8217;s not about the bigger the better. It&#8217;s about that you mean it and do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Khürt Williams</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-8819</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Khürt Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep.  Totalitarian governments mandates can have that effect on a market.  &quot;Do this or we burn down your town to make room fo rour project&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  Totalitarian governments mandates can have that effect on a market.  &#8220;Do this or we burn down your town to make room fo rour project&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Khürt Williams</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-25998</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Khürt Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep.  Totalitarian governments mandates can have that effect on a market.  &quot;Do this or we burn down your town to make room fo rour project&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  Totalitarian governments mandates can have that effect on a market.  &#8220;Do this or we burn down your town to make room fo rour project&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: MD</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-8818</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why Big Projects are More Difficult in the US&quot;



Flip the coin - Why are they so easy in China...



No NIMBYISM..

+

Capitalist Totalitarian Governments tend to do whatever they want, when they want... you move or they move you by force if necessary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why Big Projects are More Difficult in the US&#8221;</p>
<p>Flip the coin &#8211; Why are they so easy in China&#8230;</p>
<p>No NIMBYISM..</p>
<p>+</p>
<p>Capitalist Totalitarian Governments tend to do whatever they want, when they want&#8230; you move or they move you by force if necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: MD</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-25997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why Big Projects are More Difficult in the US&quot;



Flip the coin - Why are they so easy in China...



No NIMBYISM..

+

Capitalist Totalitarian Governments tend to do whatever they want, when they want... you move or they move you by force if necessary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why Big Projects are More Difficult in the US&#8221;</p>
<p>Flip the coin &#8211; Why are they so easy in China&#8230;</p>
<p>No NIMBYISM..</p>
<p>+</p>
<p>Capitalist Totalitarian Governments tend to do whatever they want, when they want&#8230; you move or they move you by force if necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Christof</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/02/02/wow-china-is-serious-about-clean-energy/#comment-8822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have mixed feelings - on the one hand, the U.S. ought to be doing more on renewable energy. On the other, I don&#039;t believe massive solar plants are the best way to go. While I recognize some of these might be necessary, there&#039;s plenty of rooftop -- and parking lot -- space in the U.S. that could be covered by solar that&#039;s a lot closer to where the electricity that&#039;s being generated will be used. For instance, a study by the Energy Foundation found that &quot;Residential and commercial rooftop space in the U.S. could accommodate up to 710,000 MW of solar electric power,&quot; which is 75% of the nation&#039;s current electric consumption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have mixed feelings &#8211; on the one hand, the U.S. ought to be doing more on renewable energy. On the other, I don&#8217;t believe massive solar plants are the best way to go. While I recognize some of these might be necessary, there&#8217;s plenty of rooftop &#8212; and parking lot &#8212; space in the U.S. that could be covered by solar that&#8217;s a lot closer to where the electricity that&#8217;s being generated will be used. For instance, a study by the Energy Foundation found that &#8220;Residential and commercial rooftop space in the U.S. could accommodate up to 710,000 MW of solar electric power,&#8221; which is 75% of the nation&#8217;s current electric consumption.</p>
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