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		<title>By: sorority</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-8724</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sorority]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 00:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enjoyed the posts..]]></description>
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		<title>By: sorority</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-25964</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sorority]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 00:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enjoyed the posts..]]></description>
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		<title>By: juangault</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-8723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[juangault]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Conservation is still the easiest way to deal with the looming energy shortages of the near future. But as soon as the world starts serious conserving, the price falls and alternatives struggle to stay alive.  The Fed has been on a spending spree, and it&#039;s unfair to our future people to burden them with a disproportional amount of debt.  (Some is fine, being born into a world with internet and satellite TV ain&#039;t so bad) So one solution is to check aggregate speed and vehicle weight of suburban traffic and tax accordingly.  We need to pay down some of the folly of the bankrupter from Tejas.  The only real way to avert planetary problems is to slow the growth of population down.  But every businessman I know wants MORE customers.  Priests might summon some wrath if BC went with WIC benefits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservation is still the easiest way to deal with the looming energy shortages of the near future. But as soon as the world starts serious conserving, the price falls and alternatives struggle to stay alive.  The Fed has been on a spending spree, and it&#8217;s unfair to our future people to burden them with a disproportional amount of debt.  (Some is fine, being born into a world with internet and satellite TV ain&#8217;t so bad) So one solution is to check aggregate speed and vehicle weight of suburban traffic and tax accordingly.  We need to pay down some of the folly of the bankrupter from Tejas.  The only real way to avert planetary problems is to slow the growth of population down.  But every businessman I know wants MORE customers.  Priests might summon some wrath if BC went with WIC benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: juangault</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-25963</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[juangault]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Conservation is still the easiest way to deal with the looming energy shortages of the near future. But as soon as the world starts serious conserving, the price falls and alternatives struggle to stay alive.  The Fed has been on a spending spree, and it&#039;s unfair to our future people to burden them with a disproportional amount of debt.  (Some is fine, being born into a world with internet and satellite TV ain&#039;t so bad) So one solution is to check aggregate speed and vehicle weight of suburban traffic and tax accordingly.  We need to pay down some of the folly of the bankrupter from Tejas.  The only real way to avert planetary problems is to slow the growth of population down.  But every businessman I know wants MORE customers.  Priests might summon some wrath if BC went with WIC benefits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservation is still the easiest way to deal with the looming energy shortages of the near future. But as soon as the world starts serious conserving, the price falls and alternatives struggle to stay alive.  The Fed has been on a spending spree, and it&#8217;s unfair to our future people to burden them with a disproportional amount of debt.  (Some is fine, being born into a world with internet and satellite TV ain&#8217;t so bad) So one solution is to check aggregate speed and vehicle weight of suburban traffic and tax accordingly.  We need to pay down some of the folly of the bankrupter from Tejas.  The only real way to avert planetary problems is to slow the growth of population down.  But every businessman I know wants MORE customers.  Priests might summon some wrath if BC went with WIC benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Woods</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-8722</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A motor or wind turbine made in China from Chinese minerals will have the same effect on the environment as one made in the US from Chinese minerals. Anyway, &quot;rare earth&quot; minerals aren&#039;t all that rare.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A motor or wind turbine made in China from Chinese minerals will have the same effect on the environment as one made in the US from Chinese minerals. Anyway, &#8220;rare earth&#8221; minerals aren&#8217;t all that rare.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Woods</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-25962</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A motor or wind turbine made in China from Chinese minerals will have the same effect on the environment as one made in the US from Chinese minerals. Anyway, &quot;rare earth&quot; minerals aren&#039;t all that rare.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A motor or wind turbine made in China from Chinese minerals will have the same effect on the environment as one made in the US from Chinese minerals. Anyway, &#8220;rare earth&#8221; minerals aren&#8217;t all that rare.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-8721</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LYNAS, a REE company in Australia should be producing in 2011]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LYNAS, a REE company in Australia should be producing in 2011</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-25961</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LYNAS, a REE company in Australia should be producing in 2011]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LYNAS, a REE company in Australia should be producing in 2011</p>
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		<title>By: calhalla</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-8720</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[calhalla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@peterike



&quot;The US has all the natural gas we need for decades&quot;



This is not true, for example the much trumpeted Shale Gas Reserves would last the world for 517 days at current consumption rates.



http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/ng/ng_enr_shalegas_s1_a.htm



Before going about huge finds and enough reserves to last decades, just remember one important fact, a billion barrels of oil is enough to last 12 days at current world consumption.



&lt;em&gt;[ SK: Good points. It is only smart to switch to renewables&lt;strong&gt; at least a decade BEFORE&lt;/strong&gt; the non renewables run out! Not so easy to build wind turbines in a Bronze Age economy.]&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@peterike</p>
<p>&#8220;The US has all the natural gas we need for decades&#8221;</p>
<p>This is not true, for example the much trumpeted Shale Gas Reserves would last the world for 517 days at current consumption rates.</p>
<p><a href="http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/ng/ng_enr_shalegas_s1_a.htm" rel="nofollow">http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/ng/ng_enr_shalegas_s1_a.htm</a></p>
<p>Before going about huge finds and enough reserves to last decades, just remember one important fact, a billion barrels of oil is enough to last 12 days at current world consumption.</p>
<p><em>[ SK: Good points. It is only smart to switch to renewables<strong> at least a decade BEFORE</strong> the non renewables run out! Not so easy to build wind turbines in a Bronze Age economy.]</em></p>
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		<title>By: calhalla</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-25960</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[calhalla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@peterike



&quot;The US has all the natural gas we need for decades&quot;



This is not true, for example the much trumpeted Shale Gas Reserves would last the world for 517 days at current consumption rates.



http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/ng/ng_enr_shalegas_s1_a.htm



Before going about huge finds and enough reserves to last decades, just remember one important fact, a billion barrels of oil is enough to last 12 days at current world consumption.



&lt;em&gt;[ SK: Good points. It is only smart to switch to renewables&lt;strong&gt; at least a decade BEFORE&lt;/strong&gt; the non renewables run out! Not so easy to build wind turbines in a Bronze Age economy.]&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@peterike</p>
<p>&#8220;The US has all the natural gas we need for decades&#8221;</p>
<p>This is not true, for example the much trumpeted Shale Gas Reserves would last the world for 517 days at current consumption rates.</p>
<p><a href="http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/ng/ng_enr_shalegas_s1_a.htm" rel="nofollow">http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/ng/ng_enr_shalegas_s1_a.htm</a></p>
<p>Before going about huge finds and enough reserves to last decades, just remember one important fact, a billion barrels of oil is enough to last 12 days at current world consumption.</p>
<p><em>[ SK: Good points. It is only smart to switch to renewables<strong> at least a decade BEFORE</strong> the non renewables run out! Not so easy to build wind turbines in a Bronze Age economy.]</em></p>
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		<title>By: Eletruk</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-8719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eletruk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the world is going to end in 2012 anyways, so why plan for the future?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the world is going to end in 2012 anyways, so why plan for the future?</p>
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		<title>By: Eletruk</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-25959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eletruk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the world is going to end in 2012 anyways, so why plan for the future?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the world is going to end in 2012 anyways, so why plan for the future?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Faranetta</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-8718</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Faranetta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think this is a well written post. As we have seen again in the past two years, a high price energy is the most powerful driver for efficency and innovation in clean energy technology.  The scarcity of oil will drive technologies to get it from sources deeper in the earth and eventually bringing the price back down. There are fuel cells that don&#039;t require platinum for catalysts and I thought wind turbines were made out of steel and composites.  The price, reliability and the experienced effects of climate change will drive innovation in clean energy technology not the politicians.



That being said it will be sad when our next president his brought to us by News Corp and Exxon Mobile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this is a well written post. As we have seen again in the past two years, a high price energy is the most powerful driver for efficency and innovation in clean energy technology.  The scarcity of oil will drive technologies to get it from sources deeper in the earth and eventually bringing the price back down. There are fuel cells that don&#8217;t require platinum for catalysts and I thought wind turbines were made out of steel and composites.  The price, reliability and the experienced effects of climate change will drive innovation in clean energy technology not the politicians.</p>
<p>That being said it will be sad when our next president his brought to us by News Corp and Exxon Mobile.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Faranetta</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-25958</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Faranetta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think this is a well written post. As we have seen again in the past two years, a high price energy is the most powerful driver for efficency and innovation in clean energy technology.  The scarcity of oil will drive technologies to get it from sources deeper in the earth and eventually bringing the price back down. There are fuel cells that don&#039;t require platinum for catalysts and I thought wind turbines were made out of steel and composites.  The price, reliability and the experienced effects of climate change will drive innovation in clean energy technology not the politicians.



That being said it will be sad when our next president his brought to us by News Corp and Exxon Mobile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this is a well written post. As we have seen again in the past two years, a high price energy is the most powerful driver for efficency and innovation in clean energy technology.  The scarcity of oil will drive technologies to get it from sources deeper in the earth and eventually bringing the price back down. There are fuel cells that don&#8217;t require platinum for catalysts and I thought wind turbines were made out of steel and composites.  The price, reliability and the experienced effects of climate change will drive innovation in clean energy technology not the politicians.</p>
<p>That being said it will be sad when our next president his brought to us by News Corp and Exxon Mobile.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Patriot</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-8717</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Global Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People often forget that non-renewable natural resources are required to make clean energy products, from solar panel to cars to wind turbines.  Those countries that control access to these materials will be in a position to influence manufacturing and price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People often forget that non-renewable natural resources are required to make clean energy products, from solar panel to cars to wind turbines.  Those countries that control access to these materials will be in a position to influence manufacturing and price.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Patriot</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-25957</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Global Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4557#comment-25957</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[People often forget that non-renewable natural resources are required to make clean energy products, from solar panel to cars to wind turbines.  Those countries that control access to these materials will be in a position to influence manufacturing and price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People often forget that non-renewable natural resources are required to make clean energy products, from solar panel to cars to wind turbines.  Those countries that control access to these materials will be in a position to influence manufacturing and price.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-8716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 04:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cannot wait for the PACE program to go nationwide.  It is the one program that makes sense in EVERY way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot wait for the PACE program to go nationwide.  It is the one program that makes sense in EVERY way.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-25956</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 04:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cannot wait for the PACE program to go nationwide.  It is the one program that makes sense in EVERY way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot wait for the PACE program to go nationwide.  It is the one program that makes sense in EVERY way.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-8715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few questions to ponder:



What type of energy are they using to &quot;create&quot; this &quot;renewable&quot; energy?



Why is mining okay for this but not for oil?(especially with China&#039;s record on pollution)



Electric cars are nice but it takes electricity to charge them and if it&#039;s dark and there&#039;s no wind, where does the energy come from?



As always, these pie in the sky ideas never seem very thought out.  Oh wait, we can mine more nickel for batteries further decimating the planet.



Do an honest assessment of what it takes to produce and transport these &quot;green energies&quot; and you&#039;ll find that it takes more energy to produce them then you get out of them.



Also, no mention of just how many millions of tons of mother Earth will have to be raped for the 200,000 tons of rare Earth materials?  Why not?  I think we both know why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few questions to ponder:</p>
<p>What type of energy are they using to &#8220;create&#8221; this &#8220;renewable&#8221; energy?</p>
<p>Why is mining okay for this but not for oil?(especially with China&#8217;s record on pollution)</p>
<p>Electric cars are nice but it takes electricity to charge them and if it&#8217;s dark and there&#8217;s no wind, where does the energy come from?</p>
<p>As always, these pie in the sky ideas never seem very thought out.  Oh wait, we can mine more nickel for batteries further decimating the planet.</p>
<p>Do an honest assessment of what it takes to produce and transport these &#8220;green energies&#8221; and you&#8217;ll find that it takes more energy to produce them then you get out of them.</p>
<p>Also, no mention of just how many millions of tons of mother Earth will have to be raped for the 200,000 tons of rare Earth materials?  Why not?  I think we both know why.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/26/us-must-transition-to-clean-power-by-2012-or-miss-the-chance/#comment-25955</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few questions to ponder:



What type of energy are they using to &quot;create&quot; this &quot;renewable&quot; energy?



Why is mining okay for this but not for oil?(especially with China&#039;s record on pollution)



Electric cars are nice but it takes electricity to charge them and if it&#039;s dark and there&#039;s no wind, where does the energy come from?



As always, these pie in the sky ideas never seem very thought out.  Oh wait, we can mine more nickel for batteries further decimating the planet.



Do an honest assessment of what it takes to produce and transport these &quot;green energies&quot; and you&#039;ll find that it takes more energy to produce them then you get out of them.



Also, no mention of just how many millions of tons of mother Earth will have to be raped for the 200,000 tons of rare Earth materials?  Why not?  I think we both know why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few questions to ponder:</p>
<p>What type of energy are they using to &#8220;create&#8221; this &#8220;renewable&#8221; energy?</p>
<p>Why is mining okay for this but not for oil?(especially with China&#8217;s record on pollution)</p>
<p>Electric cars are nice but it takes electricity to charge them and if it&#8217;s dark and there&#8217;s no wind, where does the energy come from?</p>
<p>As always, these pie in the sky ideas never seem very thought out.  Oh wait, we can mine more nickel for batteries further decimating the planet.</p>
<p>Do an honest assessment of what it takes to produce and transport these &#8220;green energies&#8221; and you&#8217;ll find that it takes more energy to produce them then you get out of them.</p>
<p>Also, no mention of just how many millions of tons of mother Earth will have to be raped for the 200,000 tons of rare Earth materials?  Why not?  I think we both know why.</p>
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