Comments on: California Regulators Trip Magic 3-Year-Payback Tipping Point for Solar Hot Water http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/22/california-regulators-trip-tipping-point-for-solar-hot-water/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Captain Obvious http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/22/california-regulators-trip-tipping-point-for-solar-hot-water/#comment-8649 Captain Obvious Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:57:47 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4513#comment-8649 Someday people will do this without tax subsidies. Someday people will do this without tax subsidies.

]]> By: Captain Obvious http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/22/california-regulators-trip-tipping-point-for-solar-hot-water/#comment-25919 Captain Obvious Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:57:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4513#comment-25919 Someday people will do this without tax subsidies. Someday people will do this without tax subsidies.

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/22/california-regulators-trip-tipping-point-for-solar-hot-water/#comment-8648 Susan Kraemer Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:26:47 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4513#comment-8648 Agree about KISS, but using fire to boil water to make steam to turn turbines is a simple 18th century tech too - what coal power stations use to make electricity from coal (after destroying mountains and states to get at it, that is). Re 3rd world, yeah, and China now dominates the market for solar hot water manufacturers per Renewable Energy World. But it is widespread in Israel and Australia, too, that have been 1st world nations longer than China. Agree about KISS, but using fire to boil water to make steam to turn turbines is a simple 18th century tech too – what coal power stations use to make electricity from coal (after destroying mountains and states to get at it, that is).

Re 3rd world, yeah, and China now dominates the market for solar hot water manufacturers per Renewable Energy World. But it is widespread in Israel and Australia, too, that have been 1st world nations longer than China.

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/22/california-regulators-trip-tipping-point-for-solar-hot-water/#comment-25918 Susan Kraemer Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:26:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4513#comment-25918 Agree about KISS, but using fire to boil water to make steam to turn turbines is a simple 18th century tech too - what coal power stations use to make electricity from coal (after destroying mountains and states to get at it, that is). Re 3rd world, yeah, and China now dominates the market for solar hot water manufacturers per Renewable Energy World. But it is widespread in Israel and Australia, too, that have been 1st world nations longer than China. Agree about KISS, but using fire to boil water to make steam to turn turbines is a simple 18th century tech too – what coal power stations use to make electricity from coal (after destroying mountains and states to get at it, that is).

Re 3rd world, yeah, and China now dominates the market for solar hot water manufacturers per Renewable Energy World. But it is widespread in Israel and Australia, too, that have been 1st world nations longer than China.

]]> By: MD http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/22/california-regulators-trip-tipping-point-for-solar-hot-water/#comment-8647 MD Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:19:08 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4513#comment-8647 Most of the research for these heaters came from people heating their pools... silly yes. We make fun of people in 3rd world countries yet most heat their water this way... None of this stuff has to be hard, KISS rule wins every time. Most of the research for these heaters came from people heating their pools… silly yes.

We make fun of people in 3rd world countries yet most heat their water this way…

None of this stuff has to be hard, KISS rule wins every time.

]]> By: MD http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/22/california-regulators-trip-tipping-point-for-solar-hot-water/#comment-25917 MD Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:19:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4513#comment-25917 Most of the research for these heaters came from people heating their pools... silly yes. We make fun of people in 3rd world countries yet most heat their water this way... None of this stuff has to be hard, KISS rule wins every time. Most of the research for these heaters came from people heating their pools… silly yes.

We make fun of people in 3rd world countries yet most heat their water this way…

None of this stuff has to be hard, KISS rule wins every time.

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/22/california-regulators-trip-tipping-point-for-solar-hot-water/#comment-8646 Susan Kraemer Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:01:12 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4513#comment-8646 Apartments and commercial buildings (and homeowners) qualified as of last Fall for the Federal 30% tax credit, which (for businesses)would be an upfront cash grant if you had no taxes owed (was snuck into the bailout bill) <em>and</em> as long as you did not use it for the apartment swimming pool (the pool exclusion is dumb. Pools use half the gas, and it goes to waste. Most are ornamental.) However at the state level, except for a little pilot program in LA, solar hot water got no California Solar Initiative rebate, like solar PV does, through your utility. Apartments and commercial buildings (and homeowners) qualified as of last Fall for the Federal 30% tax credit, which (for businesses)would be an upfront cash grant if you had no taxes owed (was snuck into the bailout bill) and as long as you did not use it for the apartment swimming pool (the pool exclusion is dumb. Pools use half the gas, and it goes to waste. Most are ornamental.)

However at the state level, except for a little pilot program in LA, solar hot water got no California Solar Initiative rebate, like solar PV does, through your utility.

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/22/california-regulators-trip-tipping-point-for-solar-hot-water/#comment-25916 Susan Kraemer Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:01:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4513#comment-25916 Apartments and commercial buildings (and homeowners) qualified as of last Fall for the Federal 30% tax credit, which (for businesses)would be an upfront cash grant if you had no taxes owed (was snuck into the bailout bill) <em>and</em> as long as you did not use it for the apartment swimming pool (the pool exclusion is dumb. Pools use half the gas, and it goes to waste. Most are ornamental.) However at the state level, except for a little pilot program in LA, solar hot water got no California Solar Initiative rebate, like solar PV does, through your utility. Apartments and commercial buildings (and homeowners) qualified as of last Fall for the Federal 30% tax credit, which (for businesses)would be an upfront cash grant if you had no taxes owed (was snuck into the bailout bill) and as long as you did not use it for the apartment swimming pool (the pool exclusion is dumb. Pools use half the gas, and it goes to waste. Most are ornamental.)

However at the state level, except for a little pilot program in LA, solar hot water got no California Solar Initiative rebate, like solar PV does, through your utility.

]]> By: Charles http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/22/california-regulators-trip-tipping-point-for-solar-hot-water/#comment-8645 Charles Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:47:22 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4513#comment-8645 This sounds great. I would love to see more solar thermal in this country. I'm not sure most apartments qualify for the federal credit. At least they didn't before, but I haven't followed all the changes recently. I'm glad to see California explicitly includes them. This sounds great. I would love to see more solar thermal in this country.

I’m not sure most apartments qualify for the federal credit. At least they didn’t before, but I haven’t followed all the changes recently. I’m glad to see California explicitly includes them.

]]> By: Charles http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/22/california-regulators-trip-tipping-point-for-solar-hot-water/#comment-25915 Charles Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:47:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4513#comment-25915 This sounds great. I would love to see more solar thermal in this country. I'm not sure most apartments qualify for the federal credit. At least they didn't before, but I haven't followed all the changes recently. I'm glad to see California explicitly includes them. This sounds great. I would love to see more solar thermal in this country.

I’m not sure most apartments qualify for the federal credit. At least they didn’t before, but I haven’t followed all the changes recently. I’m glad to see California explicitly includes them.

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