Comments on: Not Cold Everywhere http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Tue, 30 Dec 2014 18:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 By: Datadon http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-8463 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:10:40 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-8463 What is interesting in your LST anomalies temperature map is that if you really look without looking for anything in particular, you see a normal map of a wide range of temperatures. I bet that you can bring up any other year and you will see a very similar reflection of temperature swings..swings that have been happening for tens of thousands of years! But if you are looking to state a case you can see more dark red if you are looking for global warming and more dark blue if you are looking for global cooling. There is so much current evidence that we are going into a cooling trend that you are sticking your head in the sand not to see it. the “Coolers” have been saying for years, maybe decades now, that you can not go on small amounts of data to state your case. They repeatedly said that you need hundreds of years data when the “Warmers” would state that the last few years or decades shown a warming trend. Now the warmers want to use that argument against the coolers…that is hypocrisy. And it also is hypocrisy for the coolers to say so the other way around. However, the warmers always said that the more and more emission of C02 into the air will cause CONTINUED INCREASES of temperatures and that there is, or maybe is, no retreat. Never…NEVER…have they had a model showing upcoming cooling for an extended time frame, say 30 or 50 years, due to less solar activity. However , now they are! Their stated point was that the solar activity was not the overriding factor to any temperature change. Now they do? You can not have it both was…your creditability is lost! You been telling the world that doomsday is around the corner and maybe it is already too late for real change…a 5 to 6 degree change in the next century…now you revise it because of observations instead of models! How do you think that you have any reliability left. C02 emissions continue to rise at faster rates then predicted but the temperatures cool? That is contrary to what you preached for decades. Now you say the lack of solar activity will cause a temporary slowing in the increase of Global Warming? Solar activity was never in the cards for the warmers. However, the coolers always stated that solar activity was the key component. Now what do you say to the critics that have proof that the solar activity for the past 50 years was the strongest it has been in over 1000 years! (Solar activity records have been kept far more longer than temperature records so there are no modern to guess at) That is what the coolers are saying that caused the recent warming trend and they have the records the coincide with temperatures. The warmers conjecture is currently being disproved. More C02 equals higher temperatures just isn’t happening! Tell us what happened to that…tell us why that has changed otherwise the theory is debunked. Was that…is that…not the warmers continued mantra…we need to stop C02 emissions or we will continue global warming?

Riddle me this Robin! We have much more C02 but less temperature rise. If that is the warmers stated cause of global warming, why is it cooling now? And Robin…don’t give any Bull Shit!

]]> By: Datadon http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-25780 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:10:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-25780 What is interesting in your LST anomalies temperature map is that if you really look without looking for anything in particular, you see a normal map of a wide range of temperatures. I bet that you can bring up any other year and you will see a very similar reflection of temperature swings..swings that have been happening for tens of thousands of years! But if you are looking to state a case you can see more dark red if you are looking for global warming and more dark blue if you are looking for global cooling. There is so much current evidence that we are going into a cooling trend that you are sticking your head in the sand not to see it. the “Coolers” have been saying for years, maybe decades now, that you can not go on small amounts of data to state your case. They repeatedly said that you need hundreds of years data when the “Warmers” would state that the last few years or decades shown a warming trend. Now the warmers want to use that argument against the coolers…that is hypocrisy. And it also is hypocrisy for the coolers to say so the other way around. However, the warmers always said that the more and more emission of C02 into the air will cause CONTINUED INCREASES of temperatures and that there is, or maybe is, no retreat. Never…NEVER…have they had a model showing upcoming cooling for an extended time frame, say 30 or 50 years, due to less solar activity. However , now they are! Their stated point was that the solar activity was not the overriding factor to any temperature change. Now they do? You can not have it both was…your creditability is lost! You been telling the world that doomsday is around the corner and maybe it is already too late for real change…a 5 to 6 degree change in the next century…now you revise it because of observations instead of models! How do you think that you have any reliability left. C02 emissions continue to rise at faster rates then predicted but the temperatures cool? That is contrary to what you preached for decades. Now you say the lack of solar activity will cause a temporary slowing in the increase of Global Warming? Solar activity was never in the cards for the warmers. However, the coolers always stated that solar activity was the key component. Now what do you say to the critics that have proof that the solar activity for the past 50 years was the strongest it has been in over 1000 years! (Solar activity records have been kept far more longer than temperature records so there are no modern to guess at) That is what the coolers are saying that caused the recent warming trend and they have the records the coincide with temperatures. The warmers conjecture is currently being disproved. More C02 equals higher temperatures just isn’t happening! Tell us what happened to that…tell us why that has changed otherwise the theory is debunked. Was that…is that…not the warmers continued mantra…we need to stop C02 emissions or we will continue global warming?

Riddle me this Robin! We have much more C02 but less temperature rise. If that is the warmers stated cause of global warming, why is it cooling now? And Robin…don’t give any Bull Shit!

]]> By: loopzlp http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-8462 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:14:42 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-8462 Scotland is in the UK…Cold weather in the UK isn’t a new thing, it’s just not recent thing…plus it’s not that cold here. -1 is nothing to harp on about, nor is -18….

]]> By: loopzlp http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-25779 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:14:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-25779 Scotland is in the UK…Cold weather in the UK isn’t a new thing, it’s just not recent thing…plus it’s not that cold here. -1 is nothing to harp on about, nor is -18….

]]> By: Ladrones Mentira http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-8461 Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:26:20 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-8461 As of this writing, this Winter, there are record snowfalls and record shattering frigid temperatures globally from China, W. Korea, Romania, Spain, Czech Republic, Nepal, Finland, Austria, Norway, Seoul, Germany, Bangladesh, France,The United Kingdom, Texas, Iowa, Massachusetts, British Columbia, Scotland, to Florida, and our “experts” have gone underground because apparently Hell is freezing over. And it appears to me that we have been duped by possibly one of the greatest hoaxes of all time, leaving the believers scratching their heads scrambling to find rationale where there is none.

]]> By: Ladrones Mentira http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-25778 Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:26:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-25778 As of this writing, this Winter, there are record snowfalls and record shattering frigid temperatures globally from China, W. Korea, Romania, Spain, Czech Republic, Nepal, Finland, Austria, Norway, Seoul, Germany, Bangladesh, France,The United Kingdom, Texas, Iowa, Massachusetts, British Columbia, Scotland, to Florida, and our “experts” have gone underground because apparently Hell is freezing over. And it appears to me that we have been duped by possibly one of the greatest hoaxes of all time, leaving the believers scratching their heads scrambling to find rationale where there is none.

]]> By: chrisp68 http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-8460 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:04:34 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-8460 It’s far too late when we have summer in winter. Then you might as well call it simmer.

]]> By: chrisp68 http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-25777 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:04:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-25777 It’s far too late when we have summer in winter. Then you might as well call it simmer.

]]> By: ColdInTexas http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-8459 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:56:44 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-8459 How many years will it take to show abnormal cooling trend? If global warming (climate change) causes more severe weather, then why is the “Global Tropical Cyclone Activity” trending down since 1994 and remains near 30-year + lows (http://coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/) and “Number of Strong to Violent (F3-F5) Tornadoes” in US trending down since 1974 (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/tornado/tornadotrend.jpg)?

]]> By: ColdInTexas http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-25776 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:56:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-25776 How many years will it take to show abnormal cooling trend? If global warming (climate change) causes more severe weather, then why is the “Global Tropical Cyclone Activity” trending down since 1994 and remains near 30-year + lows (http://coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/) and “Number of Strong to Violent (F3-F5) Tornadoes” in US trending down since 1974 (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/tornado/tornadotrend.jpg)?

]]> By: a.skeptic http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-8458 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:54:46 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-8458 If you believe the weatherman then you will believe anything.

More religion anyone?

]]> By: a.skeptic http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-25775 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:54:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-25775 If you believe the weatherman then you will believe anything.

More religion anyone?

]]> By: Chris V http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-8457 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:27:58 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-8457 With global warming, we’re talking about a change of 1-2 degrees over a normal year’s temperatures. So, if it’s normal that you get 0-degree weather in winter, then with global warming you should expect a big increase from 0 to… 1-2 degrees.

People looking at this cold weather and stating that it disproves global warming seem to expect summer weather in winter when that’s not what the scientists have said at all.

]]> By: Chris V http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/08/not-cold-everywhere/#comment-25774 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:27:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4404#comment-25774 With global warming, we’re talking about a change of 1-2 degrees over a normal year’s temperatures. So, if it’s normal that you get 0-degree weather in winter, then with global warming you should expect a big increase from 0 to… 1-2 degrees.

People looking at this cold weather and stating that it disproves global warming seem to expect summer weather in winter when that’s not what the scientists have said at all.

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