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	<title>Comments on: How to Calculate Cost Per Kilowatt-hour of a Small Wind Power Install</title>
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		<title>By: Gerard Vaughan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/05/how-to-calculate-cost-per-kilowatt-hour-of-a-small-wind-power-install/#comment-8358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerard Vaughan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At last they are admitting - however tacitly - that wind-power &quot;costs&quot;.  i.e. so many $ per kW-hr.

Cost = &quot;carbon foorprint&quot; = insustainable without oil or something-else to provide the energy to build it !!   Currently it is simply more invasive &quot;technology&quot; but this time telling us that it is &quot;green&quot; - and therefore ok ?

    Solar hot water undoubtedly has a Negative carbon foorprint in places such as here in Bulgaria  , and quite possibly Solar photo-voltaic has too.

     Wind energy, though, doesn&#039;t Have to have a carbon footprint.  Sailing ships and the Dutch polder pumps have demonstrated this, as I have - with a Turbine-Alternator device - TAD ? - which pays for itself in many locations after about 20 years, and in a good coastal location I would guess that maybe this would be reduced to 5 yrs.  A &quot;guilt-edged&quot; investment by any standards.  Meanwhile, the same people who talk of &quot;Cost/kW-hr&quot; (e.g. swea.co.uk) will tell us that the things pay several Hundred % of cost back PER ANNUM !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last they are admitting &#8211; however tacitly &#8211; that wind-power &#8220;costs&#8221;.  i.e. so many $ per kW-hr.</p>
<p>Cost = &#8220;carbon foorprint&#8221; = insustainable without oil or something-else to provide the energy to build it !!   Currently it is simply more invasive &#8220;technology&#8221; but this time telling us that it is &#8220;green&#8221; &#8211; and therefore ok ?</p>
<p>    Solar hot water undoubtedly has a Negative carbon foorprint in places such as here in Bulgaria  , and quite possibly Solar photo-voltaic has too.</p>
<p>     Wind energy, though, doesn&#8217;t Have to have a carbon footprint.  Sailing ships and the Dutch polder pumps have demonstrated this, as I have &#8211; with a Turbine-Alternator device &#8211; TAD ? &#8211; which pays for itself in many locations after about 20 years, and in a good coastal location I would guess that maybe this would be reduced to 5 yrs.  A &#8220;guilt-edged&#8221; investment by any standards.  Meanwhile, the same people who talk of &#8220;Cost/kW-hr&#8221; (e.g. swea.co.uk) will tell us that the things pay several Hundred % of cost back PER ANNUM !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard Vaughan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/05/how-to-calculate-cost-per-kilowatt-hour-of-a-small-wind-power-install/#comment-25734</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerard Vaughan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At last they are admitting - however tacitly - that wind-power &quot;costs&quot;.  i.e. so many $ per kW-hr.

Cost = &quot;carbon foorprint&quot; = insustainable without oil or something-else to provide the energy to build it !!   Currently it is simply more invasive &quot;technology&quot; but this time telling us that it is &quot;green&quot; - and therefore ok ?

    Solar hot water undoubtedly has a Negative carbon foorprint in places such as here in Bulgaria  , and quite possibly Solar photo-voltaic has too.

     Wind energy, though, doesn&#039;t Have to have a carbon footprint.  Sailing ships and the Dutch polder pumps have demonstrated this, as I have - with a Turbine-Alternator device - TAD ? - which pays for itself in many locations after about 20 years, and in a good coastal location I would guess that maybe this would be reduced to 5 yrs.  A &quot;guilt-edged&quot; investment by any standards.  Meanwhile, the same people who talk of &quot;Cost/kW-hr&quot; (e.g. swea.co.uk) will tell us that the things pay several Hundred % of cost back PER ANNUM !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last they are admitting &#8211; however tacitly &#8211; that wind-power &#8220;costs&#8221;.  i.e. so many $ per kW-hr.</p>
<p>Cost = &#8220;carbon foorprint&#8221; = insustainable without oil or something-else to provide the energy to build it !!   Currently it is simply more invasive &#8220;technology&#8221; but this time telling us that it is &#8220;green&#8221; &#8211; and therefore ok ?</p>
<p>    Solar hot water undoubtedly has a Negative carbon foorprint in places such as here in Bulgaria  , and quite possibly Solar photo-voltaic has too.</p>
<p>     Wind energy, though, doesn&#8217;t Have to have a carbon footprint.  Sailing ships and the Dutch polder pumps have demonstrated this, as I have &#8211; with a Turbine-Alternator device &#8211; TAD ? &#8211; which pays for itself in many locations after about 20 years, and in a good coastal location I would guess that maybe this would be reduced to 5 yrs.  A &#8220;guilt-edged&#8221; investment by any standards.  Meanwhile, the same people who talk of &#8220;Cost/kW-hr&#8221; (e.g. swea.co.uk) will tell us that the things pay several Hundred % of cost back PER ANNUM !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Woods</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/05/how-to-calculate-cost-per-kilowatt-hour-of-a-small-wind-power-install/#comment-8357</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Because 833 kwh x 240 months = 199,920 kwh, divided by $10,000 = $0.19 per kilowatthour.&quot;



Whoa.  199,920 kW·h / $10,000 = 20 kW·h/$ -&gt; 0.05 $/kW·h.



The levelized cost is 2–3 times that, because the construction cost is up-front while the average kW·h isn&#039;t generated for a decade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Because 833 kwh x 240 months = 199,920 kwh, divided by $10,000 = $0.19 per kilowatthour.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whoa.  199,920 kW·h / $10,000 = 20 kW·h/$ -&gt; 0.05 $/kW·h.</p>
<p>The levelized cost is 2–3 times that, because the construction cost is up-front while the average kW·h isn&#8217;t generated for a decade.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Woods</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/05/how-to-calculate-cost-per-kilowatt-hour-of-a-small-wind-power-install/#comment-25733</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Because 833 kwh x 240 months = 199,920 kwh, divided by $10,000 = $0.19 per kilowatthour.&quot;



Whoa.  199,920 kW·h / $10,000 = 20 kW·h/$ -&gt; 0.05 $/kW·h.



The levelized cost is 2–3 times that, because the construction cost is up-front while the average kW·h isn&#039;t generated for a decade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Because 833 kwh x 240 months = 199,920 kwh, divided by $10,000 = $0.19 per kilowatthour.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whoa.  199,920 kW·h / $10,000 = 20 kW·h/$ -&gt; 0.05 $/kW·h.</p>
<p>The levelized cost is 2–3 times that, because the construction cost is up-front while the average kW·h isn&#8217;t generated for a decade.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/05/how-to-calculate-cost-per-kilowatt-hour-of-a-small-wind-power-install/#comment-8356</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like cleantechnica, gas2.0, treehugger less so, too.



I saw pictures on the wepower site of turbines on a building like in Times sq for advertising and another attached to the bill board itself. If they were out in the open they might even work to some degree, but tiny turbines really don&#039;t produce cheap power, only feel good token power. Now the giants produce power at least avg 6W per sq m when you factor in land but its dual use so thats okay.



I don&#039;t really have a preferred energy source, I&#039;ll take what works so I can forget. For now while we have growing renewables and fossil fuels and nukes they can work together. The problem is the CO2 emissions and then the fossil fuels will eventually go away in my kids lifetime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like cleantechnica, gas2.0, treehugger less so, too.</p>
<p>I saw pictures on the wepower site of turbines on a building like in Times sq for advertising and another attached to the bill board itself. If they were out in the open they might even work to some degree, but tiny turbines really don&#8217;t produce cheap power, only feel good token power. Now the giants produce power at least avg 6W per sq m when you factor in land but its dual use so thats okay.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really have a preferred energy source, I&#8217;ll take what works so I can forget. For now while we have growing renewables and fossil fuels and nukes they can work together. The problem is the CO2 emissions and then the fossil fuels will eventually go away in my kids lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/05/how-to-calculate-cost-per-kilowatt-hour-of-a-small-wind-power-install/#comment-25732</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like cleantechnica, gas2.0, treehugger less so, too.



I saw pictures on the wepower site of turbines on a building like in Times sq for advertising and another attached to the bill board itself. If they were out in the open they might even work to some degree, but tiny turbines really don&#039;t produce cheap power, only feel good token power. Now the giants produce power at least avg 6W per sq m when you factor in land but its dual use so thats okay.



I don&#039;t really have a preferred energy source, I&#039;ll take what works so I can forget. For now while we have growing renewables and fossil fuels and nukes they can work together. The problem is the CO2 emissions and then the fossil fuels will eventually go away in my kids lifetime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like cleantechnica, gas2.0, treehugger less so, too.</p>
<p>I saw pictures on the wepower site of turbines on a building like in Times sq for advertising and another attached to the bill board itself. If they were out in the open they might even work to some degree, but tiny turbines really don&#8217;t produce cheap power, only feel good token power. Now the giants produce power at least avg 6W per sq m when you factor in land but its dual use so thats okay.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really have a preferred energy source, I&#8217;ll take what works so I can forget. For now while we have growing renewables and fossil fuels and nukes they can work together. The problem is the CO2 emissions and then the fossil fuels will eventually go away in my kids lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce B</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/05/how-to-calculate-cost-per-kilowatt-hour-of-a-small-wind-power-install/#comment-8355</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JJ maybe you should start a blog about your preferred energy. People read cleantechnica for renewable energy news. You don&#039;t like that, fine. Go start a blog about nuke and oil and fossil power, how great it is.



Buildings use 40% of the nations electricity not 5. Plus these turbines can go in rural fields - what makes you think they are just for on houses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ maybe you should start a blog about your preferred energy. People read cleantechnica for renewable energy news. You don&#8217;t like that, fine. Go start a blog about nuke and oil and fossil power, how great it is.</p>
<p>Buildings use 40% of the nations electricity not 5. Plus these turbines can go in rural fields &#8211; what makes you think they are just for on houses.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce B</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/05/how-to-calculate-cost-per-kilowatt-hour-of-a-small-wind-power-install/#comment-25731</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JJ maybe you should start a blog about your preferred energy. People read cleantechnica for renewable energy news. You don&#039;t like that, fine. Go start a blog about nuke and oil and fossil power, how great it is.



Buildings use 40% of the nations electricity not 5. Plus these turbines can go in rural fields - what makes you think they are just for on houses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ maybe you should start a blog about your preferred energy. People read cleantechnica for renewable energy news. You don&#8217;t like that, fine. Go start a blog about nuke and oil and fossil power, how great it is.</p>
<p>Buildings use 40% of the nations electricity not 5. Plus these turbines can go in rural fields &#8211; what makes you think they are just for on houses.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/05/how-to-calculate-cost-per-kilowatt-hour-of-a-small-wind-power-install/#comment-8354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trouble is nobody can get 100% of their energy from wind, solar or even a private nuclear battery because most people except maybe the Amish use up an order of magnitude more power than they ever knew about through the rest of the economies hidden energy structure.



If every single home in the UK or US and Timbuktoo had a $0 electric utility bill, it would take only 5% of the energy demand off the books, in other words it makes almost no difference unless you start working on the true energy bill of your lifestyle that is so out of site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trouble is nobody can get 100% of their energy from wind, solar or even a private nuclear battery because most people except maybe the Amish use up an order of magnitude more power than they ever knew about through the rest of the economies hidden energy structure.</p>
<p>If every single home in the UK or US and Timbuktoo had a $0 electric utility bill, it would take only 5% of the energy demand off the books, in other words it makes almost no difference unless you start working on the true energy bill of your lifestyle that is so out of site.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2010/01/05/how-to-calculate-cost-per-kilowatt-hour-of-a-small-wind-power-install/#comment-25730</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4378#comment-25730</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Trouble is nobody can get 100% of their energy from wind, solar or even a private nuclear battery because most people except maybe the Amish use up an order of magnitude more power than they ever knew about through the rest of the economies hidden energy structure.



If every single home in the UK or US and Timbuktoo had a $0 electric utility bill, it would take only 5% of the energy demand off the books, in other words it makes almost no difference unless you start working on the true energy bill of your lifestyle that is so out of site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trouble is nobody can get 100% of their energy from wind, solar or even a private nuclear battery because most people except maybe the Amish use up an order of magnitude more power than they ever knew about through the rest of the economies hidden energy structure.</p>
<p>If every single home in the UK or US and Timbuktoo had a $0 electric utility bill, it would take only 5% of the energy demand off the books, in other words it makes almost no difference unless you start working on the true energy bill of your lifestyle that is so out of site.</p>
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