Comments on: 300 Million-Year-Old Limestone Cave to Cool Data http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Mon, 29 Dec 2014 13:11:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 By: rockzoo http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-8385 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:04:36 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-8385 I think its wronge it clearly states in the BIBLE that God made the world and its only been 2,000 years since then so all this million and thousand year stuff is wronge!

]]> By: rockzoo http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-25399 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:04:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-25399 I think its wronge it clearly states in the BIBLE that God made the world and its only been 2,000 years since then so all this million and thousand year stuff is wronge!

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-25398 Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:12:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-25398 I agree with you jj.

This is an amusing story, but it is hardly the best option. I like the synergistic arrangements better too. There’s a market for heat. Nothing is waste.

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-8384 Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:12:15 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-8384 I agree with you jj.

This is an amusing story, but it is hardly the best option. I like the synergistic arrangements better too. There’s a market for heat. Nothing is waste.

]]> By: JJ http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-8383 Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:09:28 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-8383 The best place to put any energy guzzling data center is a colder place that NEEDS to be heated up year round, like apartment buildings or towns that have co-generation. Indeed IBM has done precisely that, but I lost the link. Since these data centers are often packaged up into shipping containers, they can easily be moved around to where electricity is cheapest but still has good bandwidth.

Putting the waste heat into a cold cave is really not smart unless you don’t care about wasting thermal energy or about warming said cave.

Putting it into the arctic or Greenland would be even more stupid unless you actually want to warm those places up too and they likely would have the electricity either.

Even in a warmer climate, waste heat can be used to drive heat driven cooling systems so they don’t need to leave silicon valley. Its just a question of finding a market for the waste heat.

]]> By: JJ http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-25397 Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:09:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-25397 The best place to put any energy guzzling data center is a colder place that NEEDS to be heated up year round, like apartment buildings or towns that have co-generation. Indeed IBM has done precisely that, but I lost the link. Since these data centers are often packaged up into shipping containers, they can easily be moved around to where electricity is cheapest but still has good bandwidth.

Putting the waste heat into a cold cave is really not smart unless you don’t care about wasting thermal energy or about warming said cave.

Putting it into the arctic or Greenland would be even more stupid unless you actually want to warm those places up too and they likely would have the electricity either.

Even in a warmer climate, waste heat can be used to drive heat driven cooling systems so they don’t need to leave silicon valley. Its just a question of finding a market for the waste heat.

]]> By: akamarkman http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-8382 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:29:27 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-8382 Oh c’mon Bill, every data center needs a built-in steam engine…

]]> By: akamarkman http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-25396 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:29:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-25396 Oh c’mon Bill, every data center needs a built-in steam engine…

]]> By: Bill Woods http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-8381 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:53:18 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-8381 “Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this less efficient than feeding the excess energy generated by computer hardware straight into a building’s HVAC system?”

… if the building needs *lots* of heating.

]]> By: Bill Woods http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-25395 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:53:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-25395 “Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this less efficient than feeding the excess energy generated by computer hardware straight into a building’s HVAC system?”

… if the building needs *lots* of heating.

]]> By: Global Patriot http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-8380 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:52:45 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-8380 The two most natural places for data centers are in underground caves and in the northern latitudes near the arctic circle, where things are naturally cool. With the advent of cloud computing, the servers can be anywhere on the planet!

]]> By: Global Patriot http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-25394 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:52:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-25394 The two most natural places for data centers are in underground caves and in the northern latitudes near the arctic circle, where things are naturally cool. With the advent of cloud computing, the servers can be anywhere on the planet!

]]> By: akamarkman http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-8379 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:38:45 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-8379 Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this less efficient than feeding the excess energy generated by computer hardware straight into a building’s HVAC system?

]]> By: akamarkman http://cleantechnica.com/2009/12/14/300-million-year-old-limestone-cave-to-cool-data/#comment-25393 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:38:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=4209#comment-25393 Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this less efficient than feeding the excess energy generated by computer hardware straight into a building’s HVAC system?

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