Comments on: How You Can End Climate Change by Buying Pollution Permits on the Cap and Trade Market http://cleantechnica.com/2009/10/24/how-you-can-end-climate-change-by-buying-pollution-permits-on-the-cap-and-trade-market/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chad http://cleantechnica.com/2009/10/24/how-you-can-end-climate-change-by-buying-pollution-permits-on-the-cap-and-trade-market/#comment-7789 Chad Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:32:36 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3800#comment-7789 Um, are you people retarded? This whole cap and trade thing is going to ruin the modern world as we go into a dark age controlled by the U.N. I won't be surprised if i get fined for using too much toilet paper in the near future. I'm not saying we shouldn't conserve and recycle but to do this so blindly is just dumb, we deserve what we get i guess. Um, are you people retarded? This whole cap and trade thing is going to ruin the modern world as we go into a dark age controlled by the U.N. I won’t be surprised if i get fined for using too much toilet paper in the near future. I’m not saying we shouldn’t conserve and recycle but to do this so blindly is just dumb, we deserve what we get i guess.

]]> By: Chad http://cleantechnica.com/2009/10/24/how-you-can-end-climate-change-by-buying-pollution-permits-on-the-cap-and-trade-market/#comment-24844 Chad Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:32:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3800#comment-24844 Um, are you people retarded? This whole cap and trade thing is going to ruin the modern world as we go into a dark age controlled by the U.N. I won't be surprised if i get fined for using too much toilet paper in the near future. I'm not saying we shouldn't conserve and recycle but to do this so blindly is just dumb, we deserve what we get i guess. Um, are you people retarded? This whole cap and trade thing is going to ruin the modern world as we go into a dark age controlled by the U.N. I won’t be surprised if i get fined for using too much toilet paper in the near future. I’m not saying we shouldn’t conserve and recycle but to do this so blindly is just dumb, we deserve what we get i guess.

]]> By: Ian http://cleantechnica.com/2009/10/24/how-you-can-end-climate-change-by-buying-pollution-permits-on-the-cap-and-trade-market/#comment-7788 Ian Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:43:13 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3800#comment-7788 And if you don't like WaPo for it being part of big media, jump straight to the video by the EPA lawyers themselves: http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/epa-lawyers-challenge-cap-and-trade-for-climate/ And if you don’t like WaPo for it being part of big media, jump straight to the video by the EPA lawyers themselves:

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/epa-lawyers-challenge-cap-and-trade-for-climate/

]]> By: Ian http://cleantechnica.com/2009/10/24/how-you-can-end-climate-change-by-buying-pollution-permits-on-the-cap-and-trade-market/#comment-24843 Ian Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:43:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3800#comment-24843 And if you don't like WaPo for it being part of big media, jump straight to the video by the EPA lawyers themselves: http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/epa-lawyers-challenge-cap-and-trade-for-climate/ And if you don’t like WaPo for it being part of big media, jump straight to the video by the EPA lawyers themselves:

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/epa-lawyers-challenge-cap-and-trade-for-climate/

]]> By: Ian http://cleantechnica.com/2009/10/24/how-you-can-end-climate-change-by-buying-pollution-permits-on-the-cap-and-trade-market/#comment-7787 Ian Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:24:35 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3800#comment-7787 While I realize that big media may be funded by polluting industries, and I also agree that nobody is obliged to find 'facts from gross, icky conservative think-tanks... I believe that runaway optimism manifest in limited viewpoints is a much worse type of pollution. So, here, consider this article from two EPA lawyers: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/30/AR2009103002988.html While I realize that big media may be funded by polluting industries, and I also agree that nobody is obliged to find ‘facts from gross, icky conservative think-tanks…

I believe that runaway optimism manifest in limited viewpoints is a much worse type of pollution.

So, here, consider this article from two EPA lawyers:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/30/AR2009103002988.html

]]> By: Ian http://cleantechnica.com/2009/10/24/how-you-can-end-climate-change-by-buying-pollution-permits-on-the-cap-and-trade-market/#comment-24842 Ian Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:24:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3800#comment-24842 While I realize that big media may be funded by polluting industries, and I also agree that nobody is obliged to find 'facts from gross, icky conservative think-tanks... I believe that runaway optimism manifest in limited viewpoints is a much worse type of pollution. So, here, consider this article from two EPA lawyers: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/30/AR2009103002988.html While I realize that big media may be funded by polluting industries, and I also agree that nobody is obliged to find ‘facts from gross, icky conservative think-tanks…

I believe that runaway optimism manifest in limited viewpoints is a much worse type of pollution.

So, here, consider this article from two EPA lawyers:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/30/AR2009103002988.html

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2009/10/24/how-you-can-end-climate-change-by-buying-pollution-permits-on-the-cap-and-trade-market/#comment-7786 Susan Kraemer Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:51:19 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3800#comment-7786 Ian, all of my source links in that series are all to the original environmental economists like Robert Stavins (on Why Free Allowances Are OK) who have worked for decades designing and refining legislation to reduce carbon pollution. Or to studies like the German Marshall Fund Study on how Europe DID in fact reduce its carbon footprint successfully using (even flawed)(but fixable)cap and trade. Unlike big media, this tiny blog is not funded by polluting industries, so I am not obliged to find my facts and studies from polluter-industry funded groups like the Cato Institute or the Heritage Foundation, which is deliberately fanning fears about climate legislation. Ian, all of my source links in that series are all to the original environmental economists like Robert Stavins (on Why Free Allowances Are OK) who have worked for decades designing and refining legislation to reduce carbon pollution.

Or to studies like the German Marshall Fund Study on how Europe DID in fact reduce its carbon footprint successfully using (even flawed)(but fixable)cap and trade.

Unlike big media, this tiny blog is not funded by polluting industries, so I am not obliged to find my facts and studies from polluter-industry funded groups like the Cato Institute or the Heritage Foundation, which is deliberately fanning fears about climate legislation.

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2009/10/24/how-you-can-end-climate-change-by-buying-pollution-permits-on-the-cap-and-trade-market/#comment-24841 Susan Kraemer Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:51:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3800#comment-24841 Ian, all of my source links in that series are all to the original environmental economists like Robert Stavins (on Why Free Allowances Are OK) who have worked for decades designing and refining legislation to reduce carbon pollution. Or to studies like the German Marshall Fund Study on how Europe DID in fact reduce its carbon footprint successfully using (even flawed)(but fixable)cap and trade. Unlike big media, this tiny blog is not funded by polluting industries, so I am not obliged to find my facts and studies from polluter-industry funded groups like the Cato Institute or the Heritage Foundation, which is deliberately fanning fears about climate legislation. Ian, all of my source links in that series are all to the original environmental economists like Robert Stavins (on Why Free Allowances Are OK) who have worked for decades designing and refining legislation to reduce carbon pollution.

Or to studies like the German Marshall Fund Study on how Europe DID in fact reduce its carbon footprint successfully using (even flawed)(but fixable)cap and trade.

Unlike big media, this tiny blog is not funded by polluting industries, so I am not obliged to find my facts and studies from polluter-industry funded groups like the Cato Institute or the Heritage Foundation, which is deliberately fanning fears about climate legislation.

]]> By: Ian http://cleantechnica.com/2009/10/24/how-you-can-end-climate-change-by-buying-pollution-permits-on-the-cap-and-trade-market/#comment-7785 Ian Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:30:45 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3800#comment-7785 As with your last post on allowances (http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/23/cap-and-trade-101-why-free-allowances-are-ok/), all I see is narrow reporting and wishful thinking. Your argumentation is almost entirely self-referential! Take into consideration a wider array of evidence (like this excellent piece: http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/27/climate-change-policy-and-safe-investing/) and also, do what you can to deal with comments like Sharon's (http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/23/cap-and-trade-101-why-free-allowances-are-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-101149). That would be better blogging. As with your last post on allowances (http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/23/cap-and-trade-101-why-free-allowances-are-ok/), all I see is narrow reporting and wishful thinking. Your argumentation is almost entirely self-referential!

Take into consideration a wider array of evidence (like this excellent piece:

http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/27/climate-change-policy-and-safe-investing/) and also, do what you can to deal with comments like Sharon’s (http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/23/cap-and-trade-101-why-free-allowances-are-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-101149).

That would be better blogging.

]]> By: Ian http://cleantechnica.com/2009/10/24/how-you-can-end-climate-change-by-buying-pollution-permits-on-the-cap-and-trade-market/#comment-24840 Ian Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:30:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3800#comment-24840 As with your last post on allowances (http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/23/cap-and-trade-101-why-free-allowances-are-ok/), all I see is narrow reporting and wishful thinking. Your argumentation is almost entirely self-referential! Take into consideration a wider array of evidence (like this excellent piece: http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/27/climate-change-policy-and-safe-investing/) and also, do what you can to deal with comments like Sharon's (http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/23/cap-and-trade-101-why-free-allowances-are-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-101149). That would be better blogging. As with your last post on allowances (http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/23/cap-and-trade-101-why-free-allowances-are-ok/), all I see is narrow reporting and wishful thinking. Your argumentation is almost entirely self-referential!

Take into consideration a wider array of evidence (like this excellent piece:

http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/27/climate-change-policy-and-safe-investing/) and also, do what you can to deal with comments like Sharon’s (http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/23/cap-and-trade-101-why-free-allowances-are-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-101149).

That would be better blogging.

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