Comments on: Volkswagen to Make Electricity in Your Basement http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Mon, 29 Dec 2014 16:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 By: gas furnace http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-99771 Wed, 25 May 2011 05:20:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-99771  Hi,
Thanks for sharing the information….I glad to read this blog by Volkswagen…

]]> By: pariah http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-7530 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:39:16 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-7530 Sure would be a good option if solar storms take out the grid, no?

]]> By: pariah http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-24277 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:39:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-24277 Sure would be a good option if solar storms take out the grid, no?

]]> By: grupa jurgena http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-7529 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:06:39 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-7529 Witamy pomysł jest dobry potrzeba czasu żeby to wszystko zgrać – benzyna czy olej opałowy, to się kłuci z ekologią samochody agregaty elektrownie węglowe, to nie pozwoli nam iść w stronę dobrego klimatu, nigdy nie uda się nam dojście do ochrony klimatu, powiecie Krytyką nie na problemu, więc jak ten pomysł rozwiązać. Powie ktoś marzenia nowe źródła energetyczne i tu widzimy jaskółkę Urządzenia w piwnicy 20 kw niekorzystające z gazu czy ropy czy benzyny ich praca, cicha zasili dom i nadmiar do miejskiej sieci energetycznej, to jest wizja rozwiązania tematu czy daleka powiemy, że wyłania się nam z popiołów to, co będzie nas grzało i dawało energię do sieci to samo będzie napędzać nasze samochody elektryczne o niesamowitym zasięgu, da nam energii nadmiarze, wszyscy powiecie ta wizja jest nie realna marzenia grupy Jurgena. To od was zależy, kiedy ją wszyscy chcemy musimy się zmienić, ale wszyscy ci, co są blisko ropy gazu czy kasy powiemy to kilka miesięcy do wyjaśnienia sobie czy świat zacznie się zmieniać, gdy dostanie nową energię

]]> By: grupa jurgena http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-24276 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:06:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-24276 Witamy pomysł jest dobry potrzeba czasu żeby to wszystko zgrać – benzyna czy olej opałowy, to się kłuci z ekologią samochody agregaty elektrownie węglowe, to nie pozwoli nam iść w stronę dobrego klimatu, nigdy nie uda się nam dojście do ochrony klimatu, powiecie Krytyką nie na problemu, więc jak ten pomysł rozwiązać. Powie ktoś marzenia nowe źródła energetyczne i tu widzimy jaskółkę Urządzenia w piwnicy 20 kw niekorzystające z gazu czy ropy czy benzyny ich praca, cicha zasili dom i nadmiar do miejskiej sieci energetycznej, to jest wizja rozwiązania tematu czy daleka powiemy, że wyłania się nam z popiołów to, co będzie nas grzało i dawało energię do sieci to samo będzie napędzać nasze samochody elektryczne o niesamowitym zasięgu, da nam energii nadmiarze, wszyscy powiecie ta wizja jest nie realna marzenia grupy Jurgena. To od was zależy, kiedy ją wszyscy chcemy musimy się zmienić, ale wszyscy ci, co są blisko ropy gazu czy kasy powiemy to kilka miesięcy do wyjaśnienia sobie czy świat zacznie się zmieniać, gdy dostanie nową energię

]]> By: John Ackerly http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-7528 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:24:57 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-7528 I think this is fantastic concept, and should also be developed to run off of wood pellets. I’d like to see life-cycle analysis of wood pellets compared to biogas to power these thermal units. Austria is already leader in pellet central furnaces that provide domestic hot water and heat – but not electricity.

]]> By: John Ackerly http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-24275 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:24:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-24275 I think this is fantastic concept, and should also be developed to run off of wood pellets. I’d like to see life-cycle analysis of wood pellets compared to biogas to power these thermal units. Austria is already leader in pellet central furnaces that provide domestic hot water and heat – but not electricity.

]]> By: Paul http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-7527 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:56:54 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-7527 @Richard (Dick Smith?)

–A commentor who has no actual comment on the story!– Bring it on mate!!

Have you read about truck stop plug-in sites being installed across the US? So resting truck drivers can turn off their engines instead of running them for hours just to power their AC systems. At idle the Diesel runs at all of 3% energy efficiency (emissions = energy LOL) and now local residents can get some piece and quite (noise = energy LOL)

A nuclear bomb = energy…. what is your point??

This VW system is meant to be based in residential areas. I don’t see any mention of it being intended for areas only zoned for industrial levels of noise. Having just returned from an event where diesel gen sets ran 24 hours a day to provide lighting… I am well aware of the noise and vibration they make, even when insulated from the ground by tires.

Even a small 2 hp air compressor can generate significant disturbance in a quiet residential neighborhood, and they only make noise, they don’t pump out noxious fumes!

The ‘green’ movement is meant to be getting away from ICEs not finding new ways for auto manufacturers to sell more of them!

]]> By: Paul http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-24274 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:56:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-24274 @Richard (Dick Smith?)

–A commentor who has no actual comment on the story!– Bring it on mate!!

Have you read about truck stop plug-in sites being installed across the US? So resting truck drivers can turn off their engines instead of running them for hours just to power their AC systems. At idle the Diesel runs at all of 3% energy efficiency (emissions = energy LOL) and now local residents can get some piece and quite (noise = energy LOL)

A nuclear bomb = energy…. what is your point??

This VW system is meant to be based in residential areas. I don’t see any mention of it being intended for areas only zoned for industrial levels of noise. Having just returned from an event where diesel gen sets ran 24 hours a day to provide lighting… I am well aware of the noise and vibration they make, even when insulated from the ground by tires.

Even a small 2 hp air compressor can generate significant disturbance in a quiet residential neighborhood, and they only make noise, they don’t pump out noxious fumes!

The ‘green’ movement is meant to be getting away from ICEs not finding new ways for auto manufacturers to sell more of them!

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-24273 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:40:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-24273 @Richard

:-)

]]> By: Richard Smith http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-7525 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:02:35 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-7525 ”I’d also like to point out the noise and emissions from such an ICE are not mentioned. Ever tried to get some sleep within earshot of a diesel genset?”

noise= energy

emissions = energy

( my comment = totally uninformed layman’s quick impression after skim reading )

]]> By: Richard Smith http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-24272 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:02:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-24272 ”I’d also like to point out the noise and emissions from such an ICE are not mentioned. Ever tried to get some sleep within earshot of a diesel genset?”

noise= energy

emissions = energy

( my comment = totally uninformed layman’s quick impression after skim reading )

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-7526 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:40:18 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-7526 @Richard

:-)

]]> By: Paul http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-7524 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:30:36 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-7524 I’d have to say 94% is a misleading exaggeration! A regular gasoline fueled ICE is at best 30% energy efficient at the flywheel. They’re talking about running an ICE on natural gas, a fuel with even lower energy density than petroleum.

Based on the Gasoline figure simple math says they are claiming a whopping 64% of their energy generation from waste heat which might fly if they’re talking about Germany in the middle of winter, but is a gross exaggeration for the rest of the year. That much heat energy can simply not be used in a domestic house year round.

I’d also like to point out the noise and emissions from such an ICE are not mentioned. Ever tried to get some sleep within earshot of a diesel genset? LOL

]]> By: Paul http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-24271 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:30:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-24271 I’d have to say 94% is a misleading exaggeration! A regular gasoline fueled ICE is at best 30% energy efficient at the flywheel. They’re talking about running an ICE on natural gas, a fuel with even lower energy density than petroleum.

Based on the Gasoline figure simple math says they are claiming a whopping 64% of their energy generation from waste heat which might fly if they’re talking about Germany in the middle of winter, but is a gross exaggeration for the rest of the year. That much heat energy can simply not be used in a domestic house year round.

I’d also like to point out the noise and emissions from such an ICE are not mentioned. Ever tried to get some sleep within earshot of a diesel genset? LOL

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-7515 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:30:25 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-7515 Tom, you write it comparing cost, power and heat output of the Capstone, Freewatt and EcoBlue CHP

:-) We need more writers. There’s so much news.

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-24269 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:30:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-24269 Tom, you write it comparing cost, power and heat output of the Capstone, Freewatt and EcoBlue CHP

:-) We need more writers. There’s so much news.

]]> By: Marty http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-7523 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:46:51 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-7523 But where are we getting this gas from? I don’t know about in Germany, but over here in the US, thousands of acres of arable land and billions of gallons of drinkable water are being poisoned in an effort to extract this so-called clean energy.

You can’t forget to look at the extraction side of things!

http://www.energyjustice.net/naturalgas/

]]> By: Marty http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-24270 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:46:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-24270 But where are we getting this gas from? I don’t know about in Germany, but over here in the US, thousands of acres of arable land and billions of gallons of drinkable water are being poisoned in an effort to extract this so-called clean energy.

You can’t forget to look at the extraction side of things!

http://www.energyjustice.net/naturalgas/

]]> By: Susan Kraemer http://cleantechnica.com/2009/09/15/volkswagen-to-make-electricity-in-your-basement/#comment-7513 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:35:13 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=3374#comment-7513 Ben; the money you could make would depend on

a. if you have a Feed in Tarfiff available where you live and

b. if it would cover CHP.

CHP is not a classic “renewable” like solar etc, though worthy.

One city I know is considering a FIT that will pay for CHP in California, Sacramento’s SMUD:

http://cleantechnica.com/2009/08/17/smud-offers-unusual-feed-in-tariff-but-not-as-good-as-gainesvilles/

Germany, where this is being pioneered, has the best FIT in the world for solar, but this arrangement with Volkswagen and LightBlick only lowers their energy costs for energy customers hosting this.

But wouldn’t a Feed in Tariff be perfect for this.

MD – thanks – great info

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