Comments on: New Design Integrates Wind Turbines Into Transmission Towers http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Tue, 30 Dec 2014 02:19:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 By: Global Patriot http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-5846 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:44:31 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-5846 Delighted to see creativity put in play when it comes to generating alternative energy, but we must pay as much (or more) attention to the amount of electricity being wasted in this country – it’s the only way we can achieve long term sustainability.

]]> By: Global Patriot http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-22933 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:44:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-22933 Delighted to see creativity put in play when it comes to generating alternative energy, but we must pay as much (or more) attention to the amount of electricity being wasted in this country – it’s the only way we can achieve long term sustainability.

]]> By: Global Patriot http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-22934 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:44:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-22934 Delighted to see creativity put in play when it comes to generating alternative energy, but we must pay as much (or more) attention to the amount of electricity being wasted in this country – it’s the only way we can achieve long term sustainability.

]]> By: dhartzell http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-5845 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:28:07 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-5845 Existing towers have an existing capacity for current loads. They don’t have the additional strength required for wind drag from turbines. Dumb idea.

]]> By: dhartzell http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-22932 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:28:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-22932 Existing towers have an existing capacity for current loads. They don’t have the additional strength required for wind drag from turbines. Dumb idea.

]]> By: chrisp http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-5844 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:05:29 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-5844 I agree uncle B… waste waste waste. Good post. Just another band aid to keep everyone nice and cool in their McMansions.

]]> By: chrisp http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-22930 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:05:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-22930 I agree uncle B… waste waste waste. Good post. Just another band aid to keep everyone nice and cool in their McMansions.

]]> By: chrisp http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-22931 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:05:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-22931 I agree uncle B… waste waste waste. Good post. Just another band aid to keep everyone nice and cool in their McMansions.

]]> By: Power Systems Engineer http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-5843 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:17:21 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-5843 My sister (who works as an architect) sent me the magazine article about this idea a month or two ago. Like I explained to her, I wouldn’t invest a single penny in this technology. Even if someone was somehow able to make the manufacturing/construction/installation of these towers economically feasible, the control/operations requirements for the towers’ lifetimes would still be more than enough to make this technology not work. The power quality and reliability would suffer horribly, without expensive controls and isolation equipment to meet the system standards. Voltage, frequency and harmonics problems would occur all-over.

I would bet on everyone having a flying car before any of these towers being installed.

And I’m not being a pessimist (like the previous comment!), just a realist.

]]> By: Power Systems Engineer http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-22929 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:17:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-22929 My sister (who works as an architect) sent me the magazine article about this idea a month or two ago. Like I explained to her, I wouldn’t invest a single penny in this technology. Even if someone was somehow able to make the manufacturing/construction/installation of these towers economically feasible, the control/operations requirements for the towers’ lifetimes would still be more than enough to make this technology not work. The power quality and reliability would suffer horribly, without expensive controls and isolation equipment to meet the system standards. Voltage, frequency and harmonics problems would occur all-over.

I would bet on everyone having a flying car before any of these towers being installed.

And I’m not being a pessimist (like the previous comment!), just a realist.

]]> By: Uncle B http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-5842 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:56:40 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-5842 How we use power has to change as much as how we generate it! Local fission plants are looking better each day, dangers be damned. For inexplicable reasons, we humans seem to need to use more power in most wasteful fashion every day. Developing super-insulated materials for solar oriented homes, passively heated and cooled as necessary, with full exploitation of underground heat exchange, proven technologies, yet not used – McMansions still sell! Very much more power-saving refrigeration for homes is available, technically, but great stainless-steel cabineted behemoths with ice-makers in the doors sell, not eco-fridges of normal proportion? We are so sick! The “American Dream” as supported by the strongest advertising and construction lobbies in the world is wrong, destroys our own environment, we know it, yet, we persist in it, even to the point of trying to adapt our transmission towers to provide for it! The folly of 21st Century America and its downfall will be marked by environmental disasters beyond your wildest dreams, and economic disaster already upon us! The ‘Yuan” from China, now used in Asian trade, will soon be used in international trade, replacing the U.S.Dollar and all the “fringe benefits” we reamed out of that envious position! The next big market “Crunch” will not be covered by huge loans from China! We have already been put on notice, and will have to devalue our money at astounding rate as we persist in the most wasteful and environmentally unfriendly way of life on the face of the earth – windmill in transmission towers a moot point, we are damned by stupidity and intransigence to a sad fate!

]]> By: Uncle B http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-22927 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:56:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-22927 How we use power has to change as much as how we generate it! Local fission plants are looking better each day, dangers be damned. For inexplicable reasons, we humans seem to need to use more power in most wasteful fashion every day. Developing super-insulated materials for solar oriented homes, passively heated and cooled as necessary, with full exploitation of underground heat exchange, proven technologies, yet not used – McMansions still sell! Very much more power-saving refrigeration for homes is available, technically, but great stainless-steel cabineted behemoths with ice-makers in the doors sell, not eco-fridges of normal proportion? We are so sick! The “American Dream” as supported by the strongest advertising and construction lobbies in the world is wrong, destroys our own environment, we know it, yet, we persist in it, even to the point of trying to adapt our transmission towers to provide for it! The folly of 21st Century America and its downfall will be marked by environmental disasters beyond your wildest dreams, and economic disaster already upon us! The ‘Yuan” from China, now used in Asian trade, will soon be used in international trade, replacing the U.S.Dollar and all the “fringe benefits” we reamed out of that envious position! The next big market “Crunch” will not be covered by huge loans from China! We have already been put on notice, and will have to devalue our money at astounding rate as we persist in the most wasteful and environmentally unfriendly way of life on the face of the earth – windmill in transmission towers a moot point, we are damned by stupidity and intransigence to a sad fate!

]]> By: Uncle B http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-22928 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:56:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-22928 How we use power has to change as much as how we generate it! Local fission plants are looking better each day, dangers be damned. For inexplicable reasons, we humans seem to need to use more power in most wasteful fashion every day. Developing super-insulated materials for solar oriented homes, passively heated and cooled as necessary, with full exploitation of underground heat exchange, proven technologies, yet not used – McMansions still sell! Very much more power-saving refrigeration for homes is available, technically, but great stainless-steel cabineted behemoths with ice-makers in the doors sell, not eco-fridges of normal proportion? We are so sick! The “American Dream” as supported by the strongest advertising and construction lobbies in the world is wrong, destroys our own environment, we know it, yet, we persist in it, even to the point of trying to adapt our transmission towers to provide for it! The folly of 21st Century America and its downfall will be marked by environmental disasters beyond your wildest dreams, and economic disaster already upon us! The ‘Yuan” from China, now used in Asian trade, will soon be used in international trade, replacing the U.S.Dollar and all the “fringe benefits” we reamed out of that envious position! The next big market “Crunch” will not be covered by huge loans from China! We have already been put on notice, and will have to devalue our money at astounding rate as we persist in the most wasteful and environmentally unfriendly way of life on the face of the earth – windmill in transmission towers a moot point, we are damned by stupidity and intransigence to a sad fate!

]]> By: Ted N. http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-5841 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:04:18 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-5841 Wow! It’s great to see this type of creative thinking. Beautiful!

]]> By: Ted N. http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-22925 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:04:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-22925 Wow! It’s great to see this type of creative thinking. Beautiful!

]]> By: Ted N. http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-22926 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:04:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-22926 Wow! It’s great to see this type of creative thinking. Beautiful!

]]> By: Tim Hurst http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-5840 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:25:37 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-5840 Thanks, Russ. It seems to me, the most viable application for this design could be to help with the problem of line loss. If you have these VAWTs integrated into the towers, they could help deliver the same amount (or more) of electricity that was produced by the generators (whatever the source) in the first place.

]]> By: Tim Hurst http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-22923 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:25:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-22923 Thanks, Russ. It seems to me, the most viable application for this design could be to help with the problem of line loss. If you have these VAWTs integrated into the towers, they could help deliver the same amount (or more) of electricity that was produced by the generators (whatever the source) in the first place.

]]> By: Tim Hurst http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-22924 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:25:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-22924 Thanks, Russ. It seems to me, the most viable application for this design could be to help with the problem of line loss. If you have these VAWTs integrated into the towers, they could help deliver the same amount (or more) of electricity that was produced by the generators (whatever the source) in the first place.

]]> By: Unbiased Product Reviews http://cleantechnica.com/2009/07/06/new-design-integrates-wind-turbines-into-transmission-towers/#comment-5839 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:05:10 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2577#comment-5839 If anything it seems like this invention could help with the problem of transmission line loss.

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