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	<title>Comments on: Half a Trillion Dollars to Build Huge Desertec Plan?</title>
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		<title>By: $560 BILLION Solar Project &#8212; Biggest Ever &#124; Planetsave</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-106600</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[$560 BILLION Solar Project &#8212; Biggest Ever &#124; Planetsave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Articles: 1) Half a Trillion Dollars to Build Huge Desertec Plan? 2) Desertec Advances: Massive Solar Power Project No Longer a [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: REUTERS: Cap and Trade Worked in EU : CleanTechnica</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[REUTERS: Cap and Trade Worked in EU : CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Of the many successes, some that we&#8217;ve covered here previously are: EU Paper Industry Cut Carbon pollution by 42% Europe Unites to Invest $40 Billion in Renewable Supergrid Foreign Windpower Taps &#8220;Saudi Arabia of Wind&#8221; Because We Can&#8217;t Germany Runs Out of Solar Panels Due to Generous Feed-in Tariff Half a Trillion to Build Desertec Solar From the Sahara to Europe [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Of the many successes, some that we&#8217;ve covered here previously are: EU Paper Industry Cut Carbon pollution by 42% Europe Unites to Invest $40 Billion in Renewable Supergrid Foreign Windpower Taps &#8220;Saudi Arabia of Wind&#8221; Because We Can&#8217;t Germany Runs Out of Solar Panels Due to Generous Feed-in Tariff Half a Trillion to Build Desertec Solar From the Sahara to Europe [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: New Energy &#8220;Bomb&#8221; Disinfects Water without Chemicals : CleanTechnica</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6709</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Energy &#8220;Bomb&#8221; Disinfects Water without Chemicals : CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the CaviGulator is not without issues, primarily the problem of fuel supply.  In combination with solar energy or other sustainable power sources, the system has clear advantages over chemical treatment.  For [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the CaviGulator is not without issues, primarily the problem of fuel supply.  In combination with solar energy or other sustainable power sources, the system has clear advantages over chemical treatment.  For [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: EU investira milijarde eura u podmorsko umrežavanje obnovljivih izvora energije - Obnovljivi izvori energije &#124; ZelenaEnergija.org</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EU investira milijarde eura u podmorsko umrežavanje obnovljivih izvora energije - Obnovljivi izvori energije &#124; ZelenaEnergija.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] obnovljive izvore energije u sjevernoj i zapadnoj Europi sa sličnim projektom, pod nazivom &#8220;Desertec&#8221; podmorskog povezivanja obnovljivih izvora energije u Španjolskoj i Portugalu s obnovljivim [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] obnovljive izvore energije u sjevernoj i zapadnoj Europi sa sličnim projektom, pod nazivom &#8220;Desertec&#8221; podmorskog povezivanja obnovljivih izvora energije u Španjolskoj i Portugalu s obnovljivim [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Europe Unites to Invest $40 Billion in Huge Off-Shore Renewable Energy Super-Grid &#171; Smart Power Community</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6707</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Europe Unites to Invest $40 Billion in Huge Off-Shore Renewable Energy Super-Grid &#171; Smart Power Community]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and the UK will ultimately connect this planned North Sea super-grid with the equally huge scale Desertec grid bringing continent-scale solar from Africa to supply not only Africa but Europe; bringing it in to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] and the UK will ultimately connect this planned North Sea super-grid with the equally huge scale Desertec grid bringing continent-scale solar from Africa to supply not only Africa but Europe; bringing it in to [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Europe Unites to Invest $40 Billion in Vast Renewable Energy Super-Grid : CleanTechnica</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6706</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Europe Unites to Invest $40 Billion in Vast Renewable Energy Super-Grid : CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and the UK will ultimately connect this planned North Sea super-grid with the equally huge scale Desertec grid bringing continent-scale solar from Africa to supply not only Africa but Europe; bringing it in to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] and the UK will ultimately connect this planned North Sea super-grid with the equally huge scale Desertec grid bringing continent-scale solar from Africa to supply not only Africa but Europe; bringing it in to [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Locals to Get a Bus Tour of Proposed Abengoa Mojave Desert Solar Thermal Project : CleanTechnica</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Locals to Get a Bus Tour of Proposed Abengoa Mojave Desert Solar Thermal Project : CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is the US subsidiary of Spanish giant Abengoa Solar that won the bid to build the very innovative Desertec Plan to power Europe from the Sahara Desert. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is the US subsidiary of Spanish giant Abengoa Solar that won the bid to build the very innovative Desertec Plan to power Europe from the Sahara Desert. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: JZ</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6704</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The outline is not convincing. Demand for energy is from the developed world. &quot;The entire world&quot; demand for electricity is obviously not equal.



I&#039;m wondering who will ultimately benefit and who will be exploited/screwed with this concept. Will the African countries have a fair gain, or will they see an excess amount of money leave their countries?



Quite fascinating that locations where there may be near-zero electricity available could supply countries hundreds or thousands of miles away to quench electricity demands. How much of this concept is aimed at developing poverty stricken locations?



Answers to these questions might be addressed to some degree at the Desertec website, but I have not explored all of it yet. I look forward to a more broad and deeper look at what this all means to those regions of the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The outline is not convincing. Demand for energy is from the developed world. &#8220;The entire world&#8221; demand for electricity is obviously not equal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering who will ultimately benefit and who will be exploited/screwed with this concept. Will the African countries have a fair gain, or will they see an excess amount of money leave their countries?</p>
<p>Quite fascinating that locations where there may be near-zero electricity available could supply countries hundreds or thousands of miles away to quench electricity demands. How much of this concept is aimed at developing poverty stricken locations?</p>
<p>Answers to these questions might be addressed to some degree at the Desertec website, but I have not explored all of it yet. I look forward to a more broad and deeper look at what this all means to those regions of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: JZ</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-23172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The outline is not convincing. Demand for energy is from the developed world. &quot;The entire world&quot; demand for electricity is obviously not equal.



I&#039;m wondering who will ultimately benefit and who will be exploited/screwed with this concept. Will the African countries have a fair gain, or will they see an excess amount of money leave their countries?



Quite fascinating that locations where there may be near-zero electricity available could supply countries hundreds or thousands of miles away to quench electricity demands. How much of this concept is aimed at developing poverty stricken locations?



Answers to these questions might be addressed to some degree at the Desertec website, but I have not explored all of it yet. I look forward to a more broad and deeper look at what this all means to those regions of the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The outline is not convincing. Demand for energy is from the developed world. &#8220;The entire world&#8221; demand for electricity is obviously not equal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering who will ultimately benefit and who will be exploited/screwed with this concept. Will the African countries have a fair gain, or will they see an excess amount of money leave their countries?</p>
<p>Quite fascinating that locations where there may be near-zero electricity available could supply countries hundreds or thousands of miles away to quench electricity demands. How much of this concept is aimed at developing poverty stricken locations?</p>
<p>Answers to these questions might be addressed to some degree at the Desertec website, but I have not explored all of it yet. I look forward to a more broad and deeper look at what this all means to those regions of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: JZ</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-23173</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The outline is not convincing. Demand for energy is from the developed world. &quot;The entire world&quot; demand for electricity is obviously not equal.



I&#039;m wondering who will ultimately benefit and who will be exploited/screwed with this concept. Will the African countries have a fair gain, or will they see an excess amount of money leave their countries?



Quite fascinating that locations where there may be near-zero electricity available could supply countries hundreds or thousands of miles away to quench electricity demands. How much of this concept is aimed at developing poverty stricken locations?



Answers to these questions might be addressed to some degree at the Desertec website, but I have not explored all of it yet. I look forward to a more broad and deeper look at what this all means to those regions of the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The outline is not convincing. Demand for energy is from the developed world. &#8220;The entire world&#8221; demand for electricity is obviously not equal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering who will ultimately benefit and who will be exploited/screwed with this concept. Will the African countries have a fair gain, or will they see an excess amount of money leave their countries?</p>
<p>Quite fascinating that locations where there may be near-zero electricity available could supply countries hundreds or thousands of miles away to quench electricity demands. How much of this concept is aimed at developing poverty stricken locations?</p>
<p>Answers to these questions might be addressed to some degree at the Desertec website, but I have not explored all of it yet. I look forward to a more broad and deeper look at what this all means to those regions of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: DESERTEC $560 Billion Renewable Energy Project Moving Forward : CleanTechnica</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6703</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DESERTEC $560 Billion Renewable Energy Project Moving Forward : CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] huge project to build a $560 billion renewable energy &#8220;belt&#8221; in the Middle East and North Africa [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] huge project to build a $560 billion renewable energy &#8220;belt&#8221; in the Middle East and North Africa [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Abengoa Solar to Supply PG&#38;E From 250 MW in Mojave Desert : CleanTechnica</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6702</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abengoa Solar to Supply PG&#38;E From 250 MW in Mojave Desert : CleanTechnica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Abangoa Solar employs more than 80 people in the US; in engineering, research and development, manufacturing, project development, and support in a 50,000 square feet office and manufacturing space in Lakewood, Colorado, with more in Arizona and California. The company operates in more than 70 countries and was selected by the Desertec project to supply Europe with solar power from the Sahara. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Abangoa Solar employs more than 80 people in the US; in engineering, research and development, manufacturing, project development, and support in a 50,000 square feet office and manufacturing space in Lakewood, Colorado, with more in Arizona and California. The company operates in more than 70 countries and was selected by the Desertec project to supply Europe with solar power from the Sahara. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Strassman</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6701</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marc Strassman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can hear more about Siemens&#039; plans for Desertec at:  http://blip.tv/file/2289972]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can hear more about Siemens&#8217; plans for Desertec at:  <a href="http://blip.tv/file/2289972" rel="nofollow">http://blip.tv/file/2289972</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marc Strassman</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-23170</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marc Strassman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can hear more about Siemens&#039; plans for Desertec at:  http://blip.tv/file/2289972]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can hear more about Siemens&#8217; plans for Desertec at:  <a href="http://blip.tv/file/2289972" rel="nofollow">http://blip.tv/file/2289972</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marc Strassman</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-23171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marc Strassman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can hear more about Siemens&#039; plans for Desertec at:  http://blip.tv/file/2289972]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can hear more about Siemens&#8217; plans for Desertec at:  <a href="http://blip.tv/file/2289972" rel="nofollow">http://blip.tv/file/2289972</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doug Groves</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Groves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great idea that should help to turn the tide.  Botswana and Namibia are also good candidates each with modest electricity requirements (about 500MW each) and

fewer than 2M people each and about 350 days per year of blast furnace sun!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea that should help to turn the tide.  Botswana and Namibia are also good candidates each with modest electricity requirements (about 500MW each) and</p>
<p>fewer than 2M people each and about 350 days per year of blast furnace sun!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Groves</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-23169</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Groves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great idea that should help to turn the tide.  Botswana and Namibia are also good candidates each with modest electricity requirements (about 500MW each) and

fewer than 2M people each and about 350 days per year of blast furnace sun!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea that should help to turn the tide.  Botswana and Namibia are also good candidates each with modest electricity requirements (about 500MW each) and</p>
<p>fewer than 2M people each and about 350 days per year of blast furnace sun!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6699</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the solar grand plan:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-solar-grand-plan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the solar grand plan:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-solar-grand-plan" rel="nofollow">http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-solar-grand-plan</a></p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-23168</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the solar grand plan:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-solar-grand-plan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the solar grand plan:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-solar-grand-plan" rel="nofollow">http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-solar-grand-plan</a></p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/22/half-a-trillion-dollars-to-build-huge-desertec-plan/#comment-6698</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Link - The red square on the map desertec puts out does not indicate one large installation, but merely the total area that desertec proposed to supply the electricity needs for Europe and the world, if that much space was used in total for csp installations.



A similar project was estimated in a Scientific American estimate for powering one third of the USA off of space in Nevada.



Surprisingly it would use &lt;b&gt;less land than is now used for mountainyop strip coal mining.&lt;/b&gt; And the desert creatures could still run around around underneath solar collectors as they do now. Unlike coal mining.



&quot;&lt;a&gt;Solar Grand Plan published in Scientific American&lt;/a&gt; said we could power 1/3 of the nations electricity with 30,000 square miles of photovoltaic arrays.



That sounds like a lot of space, but that is actually less square miles than coal per gigawatt produced, when you include the mined areas, not merely coal power stations. It seems like a lot because its all in one place, unlike coal mines.



More than enough land in the Southwest is available without requiring use of environmentally sensitive areas, population centers or difficult terrain, says the NREL. More than 80 percent is not privately owned. Arizona is very interested in developing this solar potential because coal is water intensive. This could eliminate the need for more than half the nation&#039;s coal plants.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Link &#8211; The red square on the map desertec puts out does not indicate one large installation, but merely the total area that desertec proposed to supply the electricity needs for Europe and the world, if that much space was used in total for csp installations.</p>
<p>A similar project was estimated in a Scientific American estimate for powering one third of the USA off of space in Nevada.</p>
<p>Surprisingly it would use <b>less land than is now used for mountainyop strip coal mining.</b> And the desert creatures could still run around around underneath solar collectors as they do now. Unlike coal mining.</p>
<p>&#8220;<a>Solar Grand Plan published in Scientific American</a> said we could power 1/3 of the nations electricity with 30,000 square miles of photovoltaic arrays.</p>
<p>That sounds like a lot of space, but that is actually less square miles than coal per gigawatt produced, when you include the mined areas, not merely coal power stations. It seems like a lot because its all in one place, unlike coal mines.</p>
<p>More than enough land in the Southwest is available without requiring use of environmentally sensitive areas, population centers or difficult terrain, says the NREL. More than 80 percent is not privately owned. Arizona is very interested in developing this solar potential because coal is water intensive. This could eliminate the need for more than half the nation&#8217;s coal plants.&#8221;</p>
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