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	<title>Comments on: Laser Treatment Could Make Plain Light Bulb Much More Efficient</title>
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		<title>By: Peter in Ireland</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/02/laser-treatment-could-make-plain-light-bulb-much-more-efficient/#comment-6564</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter in Ireland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave, thanks for the interesting news... wonder how they thought of it.





But noone asks why we need to save energy anyway:



Consumers can decide for themselves if energy savings are worth it compared to advantages of light bulbs

(including compared to halogens, since light quality for example is still different, appearance differs, transformers may be needed etc)



And society?

1. Renewable energy sources already exist, and are increasingly deployed (solar, wind, wave, tidal, hydro, geothermal, biomass).

2. Nuclear energy is long-lasting and potentially renewable (short-term via breeder reactors, long-term as nuclear fusion).

3. When used for electricity, renewable/nuclear energy can relatively quickly be spread to other regions via grid interconnectors.

4. As finite sources become scarcer, their price rises, reducing such consumption anyway, and the choice of renewable energy resources becomes more natural on the market place.

Taxes or subsidies can of course speed up the effect before then.



I extensively criticize the light bulb ban from

http://ceolas.net/#li1x  onwards

- I&#039;d be glad to know what you think!

Peter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, thanks for the interesting news&#8230; wonder how they thought of it.</p>
<p>But noone asks why we need to save energy anyway:</p>
<p>Consumers can decide for themselves if energy savings are worth it compared to advantages of light bulbs</p>
<p>(including compared to halogens, since light quality for example is still different, appearance differs, transformers may be needed etc)</p>
<p>And society?</p>
<p>1. Renewable energy sources already exist, and are increasingly deployed (solar, wind, wave, tidal, hydro, geothermal, biomass).</p>
<p>2. Nuclear energy is long-lasting and potentially renewable (short-term via breeder reactors, long-term as nuclear fusion).</p>
<p>3. When used for electricity, renewable/nuclear energy can relatively quickly be spread to other regions via grid interconnectors.</p>
<p>4. As finite sources become scarcer, their price rises, reducing such consumption anyway, and the choice of renewable energy resources becomes more natural on the market place.</p>
<p>Taxes or subsidies can of course speed up the effect before then.</p>
<p>I extensively criticize the light bulb ban from</p>
<p><a href="http://ceolas.net/#li1x" rel="nofollow">http://ceolas.net/#li1x</a>  onwards</p>
<p>&#8211; I&#8217;d be glad to know what you think!</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Peter in Ireland</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/02/laser-treatment-could-make-plain-light-bulb-much-more-efficient/#comment-23005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter in Ireland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave, thanks for the interesting news... wonder how they thought of it.





But noone asks why we need to save energy anyway:



Consumers can decide for themselves if energy savings are worth it compared to advantages of light bulbs

(including compared to halogens, since light quality for example is still different, appearance differs, transformers may be needed etc)



And society?

1. Renewable energy sources already exist, and are increasingly deployed (solar, wind, wave, tidal, hydro, geothermal, biomass).

2. Nuclear energy is long-lasting and potentially renewable (short-term via breeder reactors, long-term as nuclear fusion).

3. When used for electricity, renewable/nuclear energy can relatively quickly be spread to other regions via grid interconnectors.

4. As finite sources become scarcer, their price rises, reducing such consumption anyway, and the choice of renewable energy resources becomes more natural on the market place.

Taxes or subsidies can of course speed up the effect before then.



I extensively criticize the light bulb ban from

http://ceolas.net/#li1x  onwards

- I&#039;d be glad to know what you think!

Peter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, thanks for the interesting news&#8230; wonder how they thought of it.</p>
<p>But noone asks why we need to save energy anyway:</p>
<p>Consumers can decide for themselves if energy savings are worth it compared to advantages of light bulbs</p>
<p>(including compared to halogens, since light quality for example is still different, appearance differs, transformers may be needed etc)</p>
<p>And society?</p>
<p>1. Renewable energy sources already exist, and are increasingly deployed (solar, wind, wave, tidal, hydro, geothermal, biomass).</p>
<p>2. Nuclear energy is long-lasting and potentially renewable (short-term via breeder reactors, long-term as nuclear fusion).</p>
<p>3. When used for electricity, renewable/nuclear energy can relatively quickly be spread to other regions via grid interconnectors.</p>
<p>4. As finite sources become scarcer, their price rises, reducing such consumption anyway, and the choice of renewable energy resources becomes more natural on the market place.</p>
<p>Taxes or subsidies can of course speed up the effect before then.</p>
<p>I extensively criticize the light bulb ban from</p>
<p><a href="http://ceolas.net/#li1x" rel="nofollow">http://ceolas.net/#li1x</a>  onwards</p>
<p>&#8211; I&#8217;d be glad to know what you think!</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Peter in Ireland</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/02/laser-treatment-could-make-plain-light-bulb-much-more-efficient/#comment-23006</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter in Ireland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave, thanks for the interesting news... wonder how they thought of it.





But noone asks why we need to save energy anyway:



Consumers can decide for themselves if energy savings are worth it compared to advantages of light bulbs

(including compared to halogens, since light quality for example is still different, appearance differs, transformers may be needed etc)



And society?

1. Renewable energy sources already exist, and are increasingly deployed (solar, wind, wave, tidal, hydro, geothermal, biomass).

2. Nuclear energy is long-lasting and potentially renewable (short-term via breeder reactors, long-term as nuclear fusion).

3. When used for electricity, renewable/nuclear energy can relatively quickly be spread to other regions via grid interconnectors.

4. As finite sources become scarcer, their price rises, reducing such consumption anyway, and the choice of renewable energy resources becomes more natural on the market place.

Taxes or subsidies can of course speed up the effect before then.



I extensively criticize the light bulb ban from

http://ceolas.net/#li1x  onwards

- I&#039;d be glad to know what you think!

Peter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, thanks for the interesting news&#8230; wonder how they thought of it.</p>
<p>But noone asks why we need to save energy anyway:</p>
<p>Consumers can decide for themselves if energy savings are worth it compared to advantages of light bulbs</p>
<p>(including compared to halogens, since light quality for example is still different, appearance differs, transformers may be needed etc)</p>
<p>And society?</p>
<p>1. Renewable energy sources already exist, and are increasingly deployed (solar, wind, wave, tidal, hydro, geothermal, biomass).</p>
<p>2. Nuclear energy is long-lasting and potentially renewable (short-term via breeder reactors, long-term as nuclear fusion).</p>
<p>3. When used for electricity, renewable/nuclear energy can relatively quickly be spread to other regions via grid interconnectors.</p>
<p>4. As finite sources become scarcer, their price rises, reducing such consumption anyway, and the choice of renewable energy resources becomes more natural on the market place.</p>
<p>Taxes or subsidies can of course speed up the effect before then.</p>
<p>I extensively criticize the light bulb ban from</p>
<p><a href="http://ceolas.net/#li1x" rel="nofollow">http://ceolas.net/#li1x</a>  onwards</p>
<p>&#8211; I&#8217;d be glad to know what you think!</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: russ</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/02/laser-treatment-could-make-plain-light-bulb-much-more-efficient/#comment-6563</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Include power factor considerations and power consumption is closer to a CFL or LED.



The customer pays for power factor only indirectly but they do foot the bill in the end. You know the utility is not eating the loss.



No mercury with the regular bulb either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Include power factor considerations and power consumption is closer to a CFL or LED.</p>
<p>The customer pays for power factor only indirectly but they do foot the bill in the end. You know the utility is not eating the loss.</p>
<p>No mercury with the regular bulb either.</p>
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		<title>By: russ</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/02/laser-treatment-could-make-plain-light-bulb-much-more-efficient/#comment-23004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Include power factor considerations and power consumption is closer to a CFL or LED.



The customer pays for power factor only indirectly but they do foot the bill in the end. You know the utility is not eating the loss.



No mercury with the regular bulb either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Include power factor considerations and power consumption is closer to a CFL or LED.</p>
<p>The customer pays for power factor only indirectly but they do foot the bill in the end. You know the utility is not eating the loss.</p>
<p>No mercury with the regular bulb either.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dave Tyler</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/02/laser-treatment-could-make-plain-light-bulb-much-more-efficient/#comment-6562</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Tyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris, you raise a fair point and after some review, the lead may have been poorly-worded. See my edit above. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, you raise a fair point and after some review, the lead may have been poorly-worded. See my edit above. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris R.</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/02/laser-treatment-could-make-plain-light-bulb-much-more-efficient/#comment-6561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris R.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, the details just don&#039;t hold water.



Compact fluorescent bulbs are typically 4 times as energy efficient as incandescents. That is, on average they use about 1/4th the energy for the same light output in lumens. (For what it&#039;s worth, white LEDs tend to be about twice as efficient as CFs, or 8 times as efficient as incandescent).



So, to be comparable to a CF, this new lightbulb would need to consume about 25 watts with the same light output as a 100 watt bulb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the details just don&#8217;t hold water.</p>
<p>Compact fluorescent bulbs are typically 4 times as energy efficient as incandescents. That is, on average they use about 1/4th the energy for the same light output in lumens. (For what it&#8217;s worth, white LEDs tend to be about twice as efficient as CFs, or 8 times as efficient as incandescent).</p>
<p>So, to be comparable to a CF, this new lightbulb would need to consume about 25 watts with the same light output as a 100 watt bulb.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris R.</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/06/02/laser-treatment-could-make-plain-light-bulb-much-more-efficient/#comment-23003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris R.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, the details just don&#039;t hold water.



Compact fluorescent bulbs are typically 4 times as energy efficient as incandescents. That is, on average they use about 1/4th the energy for the same light output in lumens. (For what it&#039;s worth, white LEDs tend to be about twice as efficient as CFs, or 8 times as efficient as incandescent).



So, to be comparable to a CF, this new lightbulb would need to consume about 25 watts with the same light output as a 100 watt bulb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the details just don&#8217;t hold water.</p>
<p>Compact fluorescent bulbs are typically 4 times as energy efficient as incandescents. That is, on average they use about 1/4th the energy for the same light output in lumens. (For what it&#8217;s worth, white LEDs tend to be about twice as efficient as CFs, or 8 times as efficient as incandescent).</p>
<p>So, to be comparable to a CF, this new lightbulb would need to consume about 25 watts with the same light output as a 100 watt bulb.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
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