Comments on: World's Largest Solar Thermal Plant (340MW) Planned for Arizona http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Tue, 30 Dec 2014 08:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 By: Giant $1.4 Billion Solar Project Will Almost Double Total U.S. Capacity from 2010 – CleanTechnica: Cleantech innovation news and views http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-101315 Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:54:07 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-101315 […] What makes the program unique compared to other big solar programs is that instead of focusing on one giant standalone solar installation, Project Amp uses a distributed energy model involving 750 existing rooftops.Standalone Solar […]

]]> By: levi http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-83037 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:28:36 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-83037 regardless, solar thermal is renewable and nuclear power isn’t, plus nuclear power plants dont last for that long unlike there DU that is going to stay radioactive some 4+ billion years

]]> By: Karl A. http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-15282 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:32:45 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-15282 All the companies that were building nuclear power plants in countries such as Spain have already retooled to build solar thermal plants. A nuclear power station takes 9 to 10 years to build and bring into operation – construction of a solar thermal plant is usually completed and the plant starts producing power inside one year. Nuclear power plants are massively expensive to build and politically risky on account of how nobody wants to live anywhere near them. They have significant environmental risk factors attached to them, including discharge of radioactive materials either accidentally, or in the case of a terrorist attack, intentionally, plus the question of what to do with the radioactive waste they generate? Furthermore, the economy figures given for nuclear power plants in terms of power production versus dollars spent are grossly skewed by the generous handouts that the federal government gives to the nuclear industry. You guys really still want to build more nuclear power plants? They’re as out of date as the steam engine. Solar is here to stay; the advances that have been made in storage of the heat energy captured to enable production of steam to drive turbines 24/7 means that all the old BS about solar only being viable during daylight hours is so far out of date it’s not funny.

]]> By: Camel Power Meets Solar Power in Africa : CleanTechnica http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-6441 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:14:28 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-6441 […] Utility-scale solar projects are fast becoming the norm, but it’s also important to remember that small-scale, portable solar can make a huge difference in areas of the world that are not grid-connected now, and will not be for many years into the future. […]

]]> By: Uncle B http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-6440 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:19:50 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-6440 Nuclear – simply not well enough developed to be realistic! Fission still yields toxic waste problem! Fuel still required! Decommissioning of sites still a deep conundrum!Limited life of plants! Solar – Perpetual, free, fuel source! No dangerous wastes produced! Clean! Safe! Expandable! Flexible! Room for modifications as they come along! and most of all, The American Southwest has lots of it, for free! If you still think Nuclear is the answer, remember: a Uranium Cartel has bought up all the good mines in the whole world! and they intend price fixing on the same scale as OPEC, and await our investment in this with baited breath! They will push fuel prices to the max, so they and their ilk can live on easy street! Diamonds – same story! Gold, gobbled up by bigger groups! Oil, see OPEC, Do we need to be raped again? My brown spot still chaffed by high oil prices! I think not! The rotten bastards can hardly buy up the sun, the wind, the tides, now can they! We must however be constantly vigilant of patent laws, the one grip they may get on the situation! To verify that “they” exist, and really do play this game, look for the movie, free on this net in some places, “Who Killed The Electric Car” , it clearly illustrates large corporate interests over the public good, and shows a perfectly good solution to smog, and gasoline prices deliberately manipulated out of the publics reach by big corporate interests! This is not my personal fantasy, but a corporatist American reality! Nuclear is “corporately controlled” already and a damnation to America, Solar however, to date, is still free!

]]> By: Uncle B http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-22878 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:19:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-22878 Nuclear – simply not well enough developed to be realistic! Fission still yields toxic waste problem! Fuel still required! Decommissioning of sites still a deep conundrum!Limited life of plants! Solar – Perpetual, free, fuel source! No dangerous wastes produced! Clean! Safe! Expandable! Flexible! Room for modifications as they come along! and most of all, The American Southwest has lots of it, for free! If you still think Nuclear is the answer, remember: a Uranium Cartel has bought up all the good mines in the whole world! and they intend price fixing on the same scale as OPEC, and await our investment in this with baited breath! They will push fuel prices to the max, so they and their ilk can live on easy street! Diamonds – same story! Gold, gobbled up by bigger groups! Oil, see OPEC, Do we need to be raped again? My brown spot still chaffed by high oil prices! I think not! The rotten bastards can hardly buy up the sun, the wind, the tides, now can they! We must however be constantly vigilant of patent laws, the one grip they may get on the situation! To verify that “they” exist, and really do play this game, look for the movie, free on this net in some places, “Who Killed The Electric Car” , it clearly illustrates large corporate interests over the public good, and shows a perfectly good solution to smog, and gasoline prices deliberately manipulated out of the publics reach by big corporate interests! This is not my personal fantasy, but a corporatist American reality! Nuclear is “corporately controlled” already and a damnation to America, Solar however, to date, is still free!

]]> By: David Dobbs http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-6439 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:30:50 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-6439 There is a potential for distilled water blowing of the end of this type of power plant. In a dry state like AZ WTF are these short sighted people thinking? Blowing all that FRESH WATER back into the air! Build a capture facility to sale fresh water too!!!!

]]> By: David Dobbs http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-22876 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:30:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-22876 There is a potential for distilled water blowing of the end of this type of power plant. In a dry state like AZ WTF are these short sighted people thinking? Blowing all that FRESH WATER back into the air! Build a capture facility to sale fresh water too!!!!

]]> By: David Dobbs http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-22877 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:30:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-22877 There is a potential for distilled water blowing of the end of this type of power plant. In a dry state like AZ WTF are these short sighted people thinking? Blowing all that FRESH WATER back into the air! Build a capture facility to sale fresh water too!!!!

]]> By: Pojus Mann http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-6438 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:05:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-6438 I am a neophyte in the solar thermal power technology. I am trying to do some feasibility studies for a 20 MW plant in northern Ghana (West Africa) with insolation figures of about 5.5 kWh/m2-day, how can a better choice of it’s capacity factor be figured out?

]]> By: Pojus Mann http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-22874 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:05:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-22874 I am a neophyte in the solar thermal power technology. I am trying to do some feasibility studies for a 20 MW plant in northern Ghana (West Africa) with insolation figures of about 5.5 kWh/m2-day, how can a better choice of it’s capacity factor be figured out?

]]> By: Pojus Mann http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-22875 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:05:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-22875 I am a neophyte in the solar thermal power technology. I am trying to do some feasibility studies for a 20 MW plant in northern Ghana (West Africa) with insolation figures of about 5.5 kWh/m2-day, how can a better choice of it’s capacity factor be figured out?

]]> By: Baking Chef http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-6437 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:52:33 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-6437 @ jake the molten salt is gonna put off some radioactivity too anyway just like coal does. radioactivity is a fact of life now its time for us to get the fusion power we’ve been promised for 50+ years

]]> By: Baking Chef http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-22871 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:52:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-22871 @ jake the molten salt is gonna put off some radioactivity too anyway just like coal does. radioactivity is a fact of life now its time for us to get the fusion power we’ve been promised for 50+ years

]]> By: Baking Chef http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-22872 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:52:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-22872 @ jake the molten salt is gonna put off some radioactivity too anyway just like coal does. radioactivity is a fact of life now its time for us to get the fusion power we’ve been promised for 50+ years

]]> By: Baking Chef http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-22873 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:52:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-22873 @ jake the molten salt is gonna put off some radioactivity too anyway just like coal does. radioactivity is a fact of life now its time for us to get the fusion power we’ve been promised for 50+ years

]]> By: Steve Stout http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-6436 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:00:15 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-6436 Mankind is too stupid and greedy to handle nuclear power safely. The folks at 3-Mile Island were warned for 3 years that they would have a leak because they discontinued much of their maintenance to save money. It leaked not because of technology, but because people can not be trusted to do the right thing. We are now building nuclear storage facilities that will supposedly last 20,000 years, but so far mankind only has the pyramids which have lasted 5,ooo years, are not much more than a pile of rocks and we still can’t figure out how they were made. How do we know it will last 20,000 years and how will be held accountable for it working? Our arrogance and greed disqualify us from using nuclear power.

]]> By: Steve Stout http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-22869 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:00:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-22869 Mankind is too stupid and greedy to handle nuclear power safely. The folks at 3-Mile Island were warned for 3 years that they would have a leak because they discontinued much of their maintenance to save money. It leaked not because of technology, but because people can not be trusted to do the right thing. We are now building nuclear storage facilities that will supposedly last 20,000 years, but so far mankind only has the pyramids which have lasted 5,ooo years, are not much more than a pile of rocks and we still can’t figure out how they were made. How do we know it will last 20,000 years and how will be held accountable for it working? Our arrogance and greed disqualify us from using nuclear power.

]]> By: Cyclonus http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-6435 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:19:47 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-6435 Why not use the $$ that we could use for Solar Plants and put it towards building a Energy Tower.

http://inventorspot.com/articles/energy_tower_power_15_earths_9102

Researchers claim it can make 15-20 times the total electricity the world uses a day. And it could also be used as a desalination device and may be able to reverse the effects of global warming. This method would cost just 2.5 cents per kilowatt-hour, which is less than a third of the cost of electricity in Israel today.

]]> By: Cyclonus http://cleantechnica.com/2009/05/13/worlds-largest-solar-thermal-plant-340mw-planned-for-arizona/#comment-22868 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:19:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2563#comment-22868 Why not use the $$ that we could use for Solar Plants and put it towards building a Energy Tower.

http://inventorspot.com/articles/energy_tower_power_15_earths_9102

Researchers claim it can make 15-20 times the total electricity the world uses a day. And it could also be used as a desalination device and may be able to reverse the effects of global warming. This method would cost just 2.5 cents per kilowatt-hour, which is less than a third of the cost of electricity in Israel today.

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