Comments on: MIT Professor: Power Your House With 5 Liters of Water Per Day http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Fri, 25 May 2012 22:41:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: jake http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-29828 jake Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:32:39 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-29828 your mistaken- for thousands of years humans have known how to utilize the immense power in simple and small amounts of substances. Just because someone is finally publishing the results of a feasible invention dosn't make bad math. Tesla invented wireless electricity a hundred years ago- 4000 years ago in egypt-isreal-iraq (Sumeria) they were using fruit juice powered batteries through metal /chemical reactions. wake up and smell the technology my friend. your mistaken- for thousands of years humans have known how to utilize the immense power in simple and small amounts of substances.

Just because someone is finally publishing the results of a feasible invention dosn’t make bad math. Tesla invented wireless electricity a hundred years ago- 4000 years ago in egypt-isreal-iraq (Sumeria) they were using fruit juice powered batteries through metal /chemical reactions.

wake up and smell the technology my friend.

]]> By: $4 Million Goes to MIT from French Oil Company for Solar Energy Battery Project : CleanTechnica http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-5436 $4 Million Goes to MIT from French Oil Company for Solar Energy Battery Project : CleanTechnica Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:31:46 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-5436 [...] Stories: 1) MIT Professor: Power Your House With 5 Liters of Water Per Day 2) Solar Energy Breakthrough: Goal of MIT Team 3) MIT Energy Storage Discovery Could Lead to [...] [...] Stories: 1) MIT Professor: Power Your House With 5 Liters of Water Per Day 2) Solar Energy Breakthrough: Goal of MIT Team 3) MIT Energy Storage Discovery Could Lead to [...]

]]> By: sujoy http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-5434 sujoy Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:10:38 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-5434 Here is one thing about fuel-cell :- using hydrogen as a fuel will be good enough .But Hydrogen have a much less escape velocity ....that is why it rarely can be found in environment in our planet. And there will always be leakage during handling of the gas how little the amount ma be .And that will result hydrogen less world.!!!!!!!! Here is one thing about fuel-cell :- using hydrogen as a fuel will be good enough .But Hydrogen have a much less escape velocity ….that is why it rarely can be found in environment in our planet. And there will always be leakage during handling of the gas how little the amount ma be .And that will result hydrogen less world.!!!!!!!!

]]> By: sujoy http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-22566 sujoy Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:10:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-22566 Here is one thing about fuel-cell :- using hydrogen as a fuel will be good enough .But Hydrogen have a much less escape velocity ....that is why it rarely can be found in environment in our planet. And there will always be leakage during handling of the gas how little the amount ma be .And that will result hydrogen less world.!!!!!!!! Here is one thing about fuel-cell :- using hydrogen as a fuel will be good enough .But Hydrogen have a much less escape velocity ….that is why it rarely can be found in environment in our planet. And there will always be leakage during handling of the gas how little the amount ma be .And that will result hydrogen less world.!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Yosemite1967 http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-5432 Yosemite1967 Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:42:34 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-5432 You know, non-elitist people have been claiming to do this for years and years, but the mainstream scientific communities have laughed them to scorn. Why is it that when an MIT professor merely "copy cats" what has been done repeatedly by so many others (with less glowing credentials), people fawn all over him? Stop rewarding (and worshipping) elitists for stealing non-elitists ideas! You know, non-elitist people have been claiming to do this for years and years, but the mainstream scientific communities have laughed them to scorn.

Why is it that when an MIT professor merely “copy cats” what has been done repeatedly by so many others (with less glowing credentials), people fawn all over him? Stop rewarding (and worshipping) elitists for stealing non-elitists ideas!

]]> By: Yosemite1967 http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-22565 Yosemite1967 Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:42:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-22565 You know, non-elitist people have been claiming to do this for years and years, but the mainstream scientific communities have laughed them to scorn. Why is it that when an MIT professor merely "copy cats" what has been done repeatedly by so many others (with less glowing credentials), people fawn all over him? Stop rewarding (and worshipping) elitists for stealing non-elitists ideas! You know, non-elitist people have been claiming to do this for years and years, but the mainstream scientific communities have laughed them to scorn.

Why is it that when an MIT professor merely “copy cats” what has been done repeatedly by so many others (with less glowing credentials), people fawn all over him? Stop rewarding (and worshipping) elitists for stealing non-elitists ideas!

]]> By: Tony http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-5431 Tony Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:22:30 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-5431 I think this sounds like a great idea, but we still ought to look at multiple power sources rather than put all our eggs into one basket. Should, for example, something happen like a huge volcanic eruption, and the sun is blotted out for months or years, similar to Krakatoa, solar power would mostly fail, but there would still be wind power or tidal power, plus the conventional means. I think this sounds like a great idea, but we still ought to look at multiple power sources rather than put all our eggs into one basket.

Should, for example, something happen like a huge volcanic eruption, and the sun is blotted out for months or years, similar to Krakatoa, solar power would mostly fail, but there would still be wind power or tidal power, plus the conventional means.

]]> By: Tony http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-22564 Tony Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:22:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-22564 I think this sounds like a great idea, but we still ought to look at multiple power sources rather than put all our eggs into one basket. Should, for example, something happen like a huge volcanic eruption, and the sun is blotted out for months or years, similar to Krakatoa, solar power would mostly fail, but there would still be wind power or tidal power, plus the conventional means. I think this sounds like a great idea, but we still ought to look at multiple power sources rather than put all our eggs into one basket.

Should, for example, something happen like a huge volcanic eruption, and the sun is blotted out for months or years, similar to Krakatoa, solar power would mostly fail, but there would still be wind power or tidal power, plus the conventional means.

]]> By: ComeOnDan http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-5430 ComeOnDan Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:09:48 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-5430 There Dan goes again! Crazy hype that got him in trouble last time. I know he needs more funding but come on Dan! Fact is, we already can do what he is claiming. You can even go to YouTube and check out the house. The problem is the cost. Cost Dan! It's just as important as the technology because there are going to be competitors. Maybe PV and batteries will cost less, be quick-charge capable, be safer and lighter (overall system). Thus, just go down to the store and by some PV panels, order up an elecrolyzer, buy some storage tanks and a few fuel cells and you can have a system up and running in a month or so, depending how handy you are with tools. The ONLY thing Dan is claiming is that he found a way to improve the efficiency of the electrolyzer. He over hyped it before and said maybe we will see it operational in 10 years. Wow! Thanks. So, How about we just say, "Sure Dan, just show me it working and tell me what it will cost." Sorry Dan but you have lost major credibility by shooting your mouth off. How about constrain a bit and just show us. Talk is cheap, unless it's just to get more funding. If you don't deliver on your word even the fools wise up eventually. There Dan goes again! Crazy hype that got him in trouble last time. I know he needs more funding but come on Dan!

Fact is, we already can do what he is claiming. You can even go to YouTube and check out the house.

The problem is the cost. Cost Dan! It’s just as important as the technology because there are going to be competitors. Maybe PV and batteries will cost less, be quick-charge capable, be safer and lighter (overall system).

Thus, just go down to the store and by some PV panels, order up an elecrolyzer, buy some storage tanks and a few fuel cells and you can have a system up and running in a month or so, depending how handy you are with tools.

The ONLY thing Dan is claiming is that he found a way to improve the efficiency of the electrolyzer. He over hyped it before and said maybe we will see it operational in 10 years. Wow! Thanks.

So, How about we just say, “Sure Dan, just show me it working and tell me what it will cost.”

Sorry Dan but you have lost major credibility by shooting your mouth off. How about constrain a bit and just show us. Talk is cheap, unless it’s just to get more funding. If you don’t deliver on your word even the fools wise up eventually.

]]> By: ComeOnDan http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-22563 ComeOnDan Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:09:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-22563 There Dan goes again! Crazy hype that got him in trouble last time. I know he needs more funding but come on Dan! Fact is, we already can do what he is claiming. You can even go to YouTube and check out the house. The problem is the cost. Cost Dan! It's just as important as the technology because there are going to be competitors. Maybe PV and batteries will cost less, be quick-charge capable, be safer and lighter (overall system). Thus, just go down to the store and by some PV panels, order up an elecrolyzer, buy some storage tanks and a few fuel cells and you can have a system up and running in a month or so, depending how handy you are with tools. The ONLY thing Dan is claiming is that he found a way to improve the efficiency of the electrolyzer. He over hyped it before and said maybe we will see it operational in 10 years. Wow! Thanks. So, How about we just say, "Sure Dan, just show me it working and tell me what it will cost." Sorry Dan but you have lost major credibility by shooting your mouth off. How about constrain a bit and just show us. Talk is cheap, unless it's just to get more funding. If you don't deliver on your word even the fools wise up eventually. There Dan goes again! Crazy hype that got him in trouble last time. I know he needs more funding but come on Dan!

Fact is, we already can do what he is claiming. You can even go to YouTube and check out the house.

The problem is the cost. Cost Dan! It’s just as important as the technology because there are going to be competitors. Maybe PV and batteries will cost less, be quick-charge capable, be safer and lighter (overall system).

Thus, just go down to the store and by some PV panels, order up an elecrolyzer, buy some storage tanks and a few fuel cells and you can have a system up and running in a month or so, depending how handy you are with tools.

The ONLY thing Dan is claiming is that he found a way to improve the efficiency of the electrolyzer. He over hyped it before and said maybe we will see it operational in 10 years. Wow! Thanks.

So, How about we just say, “Sure Dan, just show me it working and tell me what it will cost.”

Sorry Dan but you have lost major credibility by shooting your mouth off. How about constrain a bit and just show us. Talk is cheap, unless it’s just to get more funding. If you don’t deliver on your word even the fools wise up eventually.

]]> By: Aaron http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-5429 Aaron Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:16:40 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-5429 I studied the publication from Sciene and the podcast that Nocera was interviewed in. The oxygen separating electrode is distinct from the hydrogen electrode. According to Nocera this year they will be publishing another efficient electrode for the hydrogen side of the electrolytic cell. Normally platinum is used, obviously this is impractical for wide scale use. The current tech works with neutral pH water but is also being actively designed to work in the higher saline environment of ocean water. This will allow people to pipe ocean water in to a city, split the water in the cell, recombine it in a fuel cell to make drinkable water. This would kill a lot of birds with one stone. If you are worried about storage and transfer of hydrogen, simply read the latest news on this at Science Daily news.com Its happening. I studied the publication from Sciene and the podcast that Nocera was interviewed in. The oxygen separating electrode is distinct from the hydrogen electrode. According to Nocera this year they will be publishing another efficient electrode for the hydrogen side of the electrolytic cell. Normally platinum is used, obviously this is impractical for wide scale use. The current tech works with neutral pH water but is also being actively designed to work in the higher saline environment of ocean water. This will allow people to pipe ocean water in to a city, split the water in the cell, recombine it in a fuel cell to make drinkable water. This would kill a lot of birds with one stone.

If you are worried about storage and transfer of hydrogen, simply read the latest news on this at Science Daily news.com Its happening.

]]> By: Aaron http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-22562 Aaron Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:16:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-22562 I studied the publication from Sciene and the podcast that Nocera was interviewed in. The oxygen separating electrode is distinct from the hydrogen electrode. According to Nocera this year they will be publishing another efficient electrode for the hydrogen side of the electrolytic cell. Normally platinum is used, obviously this is impractical for wide scale use. The current tech works with neutral pH water but is also being actively designed to work in the higher saline environment of ocean water. This will allow people to pipe ocean water in to a city, split the water in the cell, recombine it in a fuel cell to make drinkable water. This would kill a lot of birds with one stone. If you are worried about storage and transfer of hydrogen, simply read the latest news on this at Science Daily news.com Its happening. I studied the publication from Sciene and the podcast that Nocera was interviewed in. The oxygen separating electrode is distinct from the hydrogen electrode. According to Nocera this year they will be publishing another efficient electrode for the hydrogen side of the electrolytic cell. Normally platinum is used, obviously this is impractical for wide scale use. The current tech works with neutral pH water but is also being actively designed to work in the higher saline environment of ocean water. This will allow people to pipe ocean water in to a city, split the water in the cell, recombine it in a fuel cell to make drinkable water. This would kill a lot of birds with one stone.

If you are worried about storage and transfer of hydrogen, simply read the latest news on this at Science Daily news.com Its happening.

]]> By: Vikramdev Rao http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-5428 Vikramdev Rao Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:18:55 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-5428 If it does become a reality I hope they decide to distribute the technology free so that trees will stop being cut for fuel and the world can become a better place to live in If it does become a reality I hope they decide to distribute the technology free so that trees will stop being cut for fuel and the world can become a better place to live in

]]> By: Vikramdev Rao http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-22561 Vikramdev Rao Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:18:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-22561 If it does become a reality I hope they decide to distribute the technology free so that trees will stop being cut for fuel and the world can become a better place to live in If it does become a reality I hope they decide to distribute the technology free so that trees will stop being cut for fuel and the world can become a better place to live in

]]> By: Uncle B http://cleantechnica.com/2009/03/27/mit-professor-power-your-house-with-5-liters-of-water-per-day/#comment-5427 Uncle B Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:59:27 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2411#comment-5427 Astounding negative comments! If: separation of water into O2 and H2 is done and fed to fuel cell yielding more power than PV cells charging batteries yield, you have a game changing advantage. If the array doing the trick does it for less cash outlay than the equivalent P.V. array, you beat Solar photo voltaic - but by what margins? Electrolysis is hard on current. Is this new method more efficient? by what factor? A factor of X 2 would mean a scientific revolution and the end of nuclear power plants in the U.S.A.! Plus, for "overnight " power, we can easily store H2 and O2! And, for Peak Power, same applies - and we are using conventional technologies save for the "Miracle Cell" that must, yield high levels of O2 and H2 for a given input of sun! Now, just what does MIT have? Can they get more efficiency out of a solar driven gas producing array, connected to a fuel cell to consume the same, and get more juice out of it than say Photo voltaic or even solar/thermal plants? If so, they have a winner and will change the face of Solar energy - if you happen to own a desert of parts of South Western U.S.A. but nothing changes for northern countries, they still await a parallel, Wind miracle, and in the mean time look to nuclear to save their radiant energy deficient asses. I suppose only the MIT patents will allow a real evaluation here. Astounding negative comments! If: separation of water into O2 and H2 is done and fed to fuel cell yielding more power than PV cells charging batteries yield, you have a game changing advantage. If the array doing the trick does it for less cash outlay than the equivalent P.V. array, you beat Solar photo voltaic – but by what margins? Electrolysis is hard on current. Is this new method more efficient? by what factor? A factor of X 2 would mean a scientific revolution and the end of nuclear power plants in the U.S.A.! Plus, for “overnight ” power, we can easily store H2 and O2! And, for Peak Power, same applies – and we are using conventional technologies save for the “Miracle Cell” that must, yield high levels of O2 and H2 for a given input of sun! Now, just what does MIT have? Can they get more efficiency out of a solar driven gas producing array, connected to a fuel cell to consume the same, and get more juice out of it than say Photo voltaic or even solar/thermal plants? If so, they have a winner and will change the face of Solar energy – if you happen to own a desert of parts of South Western U.S.A. but nothing changes for northern countries, they still await a parallel, Wind miracle, and in the mean time look to nuclear to save their radiant energy deficient asses. I suppose only the MIT patents will allow a real evaluation here.

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