Comments on: World's Largest Solar Deal Signed in California http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Sat, 26 May 2012 00:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Daddy26 http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-5220 Daddy26 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:50:17 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-5220 If you had to eat a crayon out of a box of 64, what color would it be? , If you had to eat a crayon out of a box of 64, what color would it be? ,

]]> By: Max the Micro Niche Finder http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-5219 Max the Micro Niche Finder Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:24:29 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-5219 Hiya, i have seen your site when searching a few weeks ago and i really love the design! I just bought a new 3 character domain (cost me a packet) for a niche review blog, and i was wondering if your design is a free or paid one? I'm new to Wordpress and about to set it up, and i would really like to get something with a similar look to yours. Any ideas where i could download or buy something similar? Thanks for your help! :) Hiya, i have seen your site when searching a few weeks ago and i really love the design! I just bought a new 3 character domain (cost me a packet) for a niche review blog, and i was wondering if your design is a free or paid one? I’m new to WordPress and about to set it up, and i would really like to get something with a similar look to yours. Any ideas where i could download or buy something similar? Thanks for your help! :)

]]> By: Max the Micro Niche Finder http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-22289 Max the Micro Niche Finder Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:24:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-22289 Hiya, i have seen your site when searching a few weeks ago and i really love the design! I just bought a new 3 character domain (cost me a packet) for a niche review blog, and i was wondering if your design is a free or paid one? I'm new to Wordpress and about to set it up, and i would really like to get something with a similar look to yours. Any ideas where i could download or buy something similar? Thanks for your help! :) Hiya, i have seen your site when searching a few weeks ago and i really love the design! I just bought a new 3 character domain (cost me a packet) for a niche review blog, and i was wondering if your design is a free or paid one? I’m new to WordPress and about to set it up, and i would really like to get something with a similar look to yours. Any ideas where i could download or buy something similar? Thanks for your help! :)

]]> By: Harry http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-5218 Harry Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:38:20 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-5218 To Steve's comment: "Maybe if we get rid of all the farms we would have enough acres for solar. Of course we would have nothing to eat." The solar farms are supposed to be in AZ/NV/NM to be efficient and cost-effective. You only need about 100 sq. miles of area to produce the power needs of the whole of the US (<1% of US). The Million Solar Roofs is a joke. With the new solar devices available, now you can produce electricity at a cost of 8 cents/KWh. It would still be cheaper to deliver power to NJ produced in AZ/NV/NM/So. CA/ TX/OK/FL. But the politicians will not do it. BTW, they would never mention the cost of the project. To Steve’s comment: “Maybe if we get rid of all the farms we would have enough acres for solar. Of course we would have nothing to eat.”

The solar farms are supposed to be in AZ/NV/NM to be efficient and cost-effective. You only need about 100 sq. miles of area to produce the power needs of the whole of the US (<1% of US). The Million Solar Roofs is a joke. With the new solar devices available, now you can produce electricity at a cost of 8 cents/KWh. It would still be cheaper to deliver power to NJ produced in AZ/NV/NM/So. CA/ TX/OK/FL. But the politicians will not do it.

BTW, they would never mention the cost of the project.

]]> By: Harry http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-22288 Harry Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:38:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-22288 To Steve's comment: "Maybe if we get rid of all the farms we would have enough acres for solar. Of course we would have nothing to eat." The solar farms are supposed to be in AZ/NV/NM to be efficient and cost-effective. You only need about 100 sq. miles of area to produce the power needs of the whole of the US (<1% of US). The Million Solar Roofs is a joke. With the new solar devices available, now you can produce electricity at a cost of 8 cents/KWh. It would still be cheaper to deliver power to NJ produced in AZ/NV/NM/So. CA/ TX/OK/FL. But the politicians will not do it. BTW, they would never mention the cost of the project. To Steve’s comment: “Maybe if we get rid of all the farms we would have enough acres for solar. Of course we would have nothing to eat.”

The solar farms are supposed to be in AZ/NV/NM to be efficient and cost-effective. You only need about 100 sq. miles of area to produce the power needs of the whole of the US (<1% of US). The Million Solar Roofs is a joke. With the new solar devices available, now you can produce electricity at a cost of 8 cents/KWh. It would still be cheaper to deliver power to NJ produced in AZ/NV/NM/So. CA/ TX/OK/FL. But the politicians will not do it.

BTW, they would never mention the cost of the project.

]]> By: Energy Hoarder http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-5217 Energy Hoarder Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:16:26 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-5217 Hopefully they will make enough energy to get us out of this debit we're in! Hopefully they will make enough energy to get us out of this debit we’re in!

]]> By: Energy Hoarder http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-22287 Energy Hoarder Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:16:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-22287 Hopefully they will make enough energy to get us out of this debit we're in! Hopefully they will make enough energy to get us out of this debit we’re in!

]]> By: Carter http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-5216 Carter Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:51:21 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-5216 solar naysayers are almost always shills for some form of non-renewable energy industry. you could fill all of our energy needs with solar just by using open desert space in Nevada. we'd need a significant upgrade to our national grid, of course, but that is doable, not science fiction. solar naysayers are almost always shills for some form of non-renewable energy industry.

you could fill all of our energy needs with solar just by using open desert space in Nevada. we’d need a significant upgrade to our national grid, of course, but that is doable, not science fiction.

]]> By: Carter http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-22286 Carter Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:51:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-22286 solar naysayers are almost always shills for some form of non-renewable energy industry. you could fill all of our energy needs with solar just by using open desert space in Nevada. we'd need a significant upgrade to our national grid, of course, but that is doable, not science fiction. solar naysayers are almost always shills for some form of non-renewable energy industry.

you could fill all of our energy needs with solar just by using open desert space in Nevada. we’d need a significant upgrade to our national grid, of course, but that is doable, not science fiction.

]]> By: Clayton http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-5215 Clayton Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:17:06 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-5215 Edit-- Oops, it's 28.6 GW-hr/yr, but calculation is correct. Edit–

Oops, it’s 28.6 GW-hr/yr, but calculation is correct.

]]> By: Clayton http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-22285 Clayton Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:17:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-22285 Edit-- Oops, it's 28.6 GW-hr/yr, but calculation is correct. Edit–

Oops, it’s 28.6 GW-hr/yr, but calculation is correct.

]]> By: Clayton http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-5214 Clayton Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:15:22 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-5214 Claim: 100 MW per plant "and is expected to produce 286,000 megawatt-hours of renewable electricity per year", from Ariel's link. Math: 286 GW-hr/yr * 1/365 years/day * 1/24 days/hour = 32.6 MW ave day. Assume bright-light fraction of day is 0.4. Then we get 82 MW ave bright-light. Conclusion: Pretty close to 100 MW claim without any maintenance days, cloudy days, or tweaking of my first guess of bright-light fraction of 9.6 hrs/day. I believe that the peak temperature of the tower will limit the peak production to not much more than 100 MW due to potential thermal fatigue, but I'm just guessing (again). Claim:

100 MW per plant “and is expected to produce 286,000 megawatt-hours of renewable electricity per year”, from Ariel’s link.

Math:

286 GW-hr/yr * 1/365 years/day * 1/24 days/hour = 32.6 MW ave day. Assume bright-light fraction of day is 0.4. Then we get 82 MW ave bright-light.

Conclusion:

Pretty close to 100 MW claim without any maintenance days, cloudy days, or tweaking of my first guess of bright-light fraction of 9.6 hrs/day. I believe that the peak temperature of the tower will limit the peak production to not much more than 100 MW due to potential thermal fatigue, but I’m just guessing (again).

]]> By: Clayton http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-22284 Clayton Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:15:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-22284 Claim: 100 MW per plant "and is expected to produce 286,000 megawatt-hours of renewable electricity per year", from Ariel's link. Math: 286 GW-hr/yr * 1/365 years/day * 1/24 days/hour = 32.6 MW ave day. Assume bright-light fraction of day is 0.4. Then we get 82 MW ave bright-light. Conclusion: Pretty close to 100 MW claim without any maintenance days, cloudy days, or tweaking of my first guess of bright-light fraction of 9.6 hrs/day. I believe that the peak temperature of the tower will limit the peak production to not much more than 100 MW due to potential thermal fatigue, but I'm just guessing (again). Claim:

100 MW per plant “and is expected to produce 286,000 megawatt-hours of renewable electricity per year”, from Ariel’s link.

Math:

286 GW-hr/yr * 1/365 years/day * 1/24 days/hour = 32.6 MW ave day. Assume bright-light fraction of day is 0.4. Then we get 82 MW ave bright-light.

Conclusion:

Pretty close to 100 MW claim without any maintenance days, cloudy days, or tweaking of my first guess of bright-light fraction of 9.6 hrs/day. I believe that the peak temperature of the tower will limit the peak production to not much more than 100 MW due to potential thermal fatigue, but I’m just guessing (again).

]]> By: B Dobbs http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-5213 B Dobbs Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:31:58 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-5213 [EDIT] "Just for the record, I was implying that Cleantechnica had anything to do with this shill in the comments." Should read: "Just for the record, I was NOT implying that Cleantechnica had anything to do with this shill in the comments." Sorry... [EDIT]

“Just for the record, I was implying that Cleantechnica had anything to do with this shill in the comments.”

Should read:

“Just for the record, I was NOT implying that Cleantechnica had anything to do with this shill in the comments.”

Sorry…

]]> By: B Dobbs http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/12/worlds-largest-solar-deal-signed-in-california/#comment-22283 B Dobbs Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:31:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2164#comment-22283 [EDIT] "Just for the record, I was implying that Cleantechnica had anything to do with this shill in the comments." Should read: "Just for the record, I was NOT implying that Cleantechnica had anything to do with this shill in the comments." Sorry... [EDIT]

“Just for the record, I was implying that Cleantechnica had anything to do with this shill in the comments.”

Should read:

“Just for the record, I was NOT implying that Cleantechnica had anything to do with this shill in the comments.”

Sorry…

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