Comments on: Researchers: Cut Carbon Dioxide by Dumping Crop Waste into the Ocean http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Sat, 26 May 2012 00:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Walt Rorie-Baety http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-4928 Walt Rorie-Baety Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:36:14 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-4928 Uh... you guys do know Gregory Benford is a Science Fiction writer, right? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Benford for details. Uh… you guys do know Gregory Benford is a Science Fiction writer, right?

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Benford for details.

]]> By: Walt Rorie-Baety http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-22196 Walt Rorie-Baety Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:36:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-22196 Uh... you guys do know Gregory Benford is a Science Fiction writer, right? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Benford for details. Uh… you guys do know Gregory Benford is a Science Fiction writer, right?

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Benford for details.

]]> By: Alec http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-4927 Alec Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:18:19 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-4927 Silly idea. Transportation and soil health issues aside, it doesn't make sense to dig up filthy coal and burn it while trying to bury clean burning biomass. Before we start thinking about putting carbon into the earth we should stop digging it out. Repeat after me, "Coal is the enemy." Silly idea.

Transportation and soil health issues aside, it doesn’t make sense to dig up filthy coal and burn it while trying to bury clean burning biomass. Before we start thinking about putting carbon into the earth we should stop digging it out.

Repeat after me, “Coal is the enemy.”

]]> By: Alec http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-22195 Alec Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:18:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-22195 Silly idea. Transportation and soil health issues aside, it doesn't make sense to dig up filthy coal and burn it while trying to bury clean burning biomass. Before we start thinking about putting carbon into the earth we should stop digging it out. Repeat after me, "Coal is the enemy." Silly idea.

Transportation and soil health issues aside, it doesn’t make sense to dig up filthy coal and burn it while trying to bury clean burning biomass. Before we start thinking about putting carbon into the earth we should stop digging it out.

Repeat after me, “Coal is the enemy.”

]]> By: Thomas http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-4926 Thomas Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:11:55 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-4926 Doesn't this seem like it's pushing the problem on to generations after us? Granted, it would be a lot of generations after us, but eventually that CO2 would get back up to the atmosphere, or potentially acidify the oceans as well. Doesn’t this seem like it’s pushing the problem on to generations after us? Granted, it would be a lot of generations after us, but eventually that CO2 would get back up to the atmosphere, or potentially acidify the oceans as well.

]]> By: Thomas http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-22194 Thomas Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:11:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-22194 Doesn't this seem like it's pushing the problem on to generations after us? Granted, it would be a lot of generations after us, but eventually that CO2 would get back up to the atmosphere, or potentially acidify the oceans as well. Doesn’t this seem like it’s pushing the problem on to generations after us? Granted, it would be a lot of generations after us, but eventually that CO2 would get back up to the atmosphere, or potentially acidify the oceans as well.

]]> By: Mitch http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-4925 Mitch Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:35:43 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-4925 This is the equivalent of strip mining our agricultural soil. There is no such thing as crop waste. Alan Chadwick (http://www.ecotopia.org/ehof/chadwick/index.html) called compost "The Gold of the Garden". He advocated using about 1/3 of agricultural for growing crops for compost. Using this method the fertility of the land would increase each year. The result would be increased agricultural productivity which would remove more CO2 from the atmosphere. The increased agricultural productivity would probably more than enough to make up for the loss of production from using 1/3 of the land for soil improving crops. Regardless spending money and using energy to transport it to the ocean for dumping is nuts. Mitch This is the equivalent of strip mining our agricultural soil.

There is no such thing as crop waste. Alan Chadwick (http://www.ecotopia.org/ehof/chadwick/index.html) called compost “The Gold of the Garden”. He advocated using about 1/3 of agricultural for growing crops for compost.

Using this method the fertility of the land would increase each year. The result would be increased agricultural productivity which would remove more CO2 from the atmosphere. The increased agricultural productivity would probably more than enough to make up for the loss of production from using 1/3 of the land for soil improving crops.

Regardless spending money and using energy to transport it to the ocean for dumping is nuts.

Mitch

]]> By: Mitch http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-22193 Mitch Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:35:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-22193 This is the equivalent of strip mining our agricultural soil. There is no such thing as crop waste. Alan Chadwick (http://www.ecotopia.org/ehof/chadwick/index.html) called compost "The Gold of the Garden". He advocated using about 1/3 of agricultural for growing crops for compost. Using this method the fertility of the land would increase each year. The result would be increased agricultural productivity which would remove more CO2 from the atmosphere. The increased agricultural productivity would probably more than enough to make up for the loss of production from using 1/3 of the land for soil improving crops. Regardless spending money and using energy to transport it to the ocean for dumping is nuts. Mitch This is the equivalent of strip mining our agricultural soil.

There is no such thing as crop waste. Alan Chadwick (http://www.ecotopia.org/ehof/chadwick/index.html) called compost “The Gold of the Garden”. He advocated using about 1/3 of agricultural for growing crops for compost.

Using this method the fertility of the land would increase each year. The result would be increased agricultural productivity which would remove more CO2 from the atmosphere. The increased agricultural productivity would probably more than enough to make up for the loss of production from using 1/3 of the land for soil improving crops.

Regardless spending money and using energy to transport it to the ocean for dumping is nuts.

Mitch

]]> By: chrisp http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-4924 chrisp Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:22:25 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-4924 So the deep ocean is now the new "away". Fix the problem at the source instead of passing it off for someone else to clean up and further ruining the planet. We have enough of these "breakthrough" ideas already. Maybe if we didn't use food for fuel we wouldn't have this problem in the first place. I'm glad to see that everyone's response so far is against this idiotic idea. So the deep ocean is now the new “away”. Fix the problem at the source instead of passing it off for someone else to clean up and further ruining the planet. We have enough of these “breakthrough” ideas already. Maybe if we didn’t use food for fuel we wouldn’t have this problem in the first place. I’m glad to see that everyone’s response so far is against this idiotic idea.

]]> By: chrisp http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-22192 chrisp Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:22:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-22192 So the deep ocean is now the new "away". Fix the problem at the source instead of passing it off for someone else to clean up and further ruining the planet. We have enough of these "breakthrough" ideas already. Maybe if we didn't use food for fuel we wouldn't have this problem in the first place. I'm glad to see that everyone's response so far is against this idiotic idea. So the deep ocean is now the new “away”. Fix the problem at the source instead of passing it off for someone else to clean up and further ruining the planet. We have enough of these “breakthrough” ideas already. Maybe if we didn’t use food for fuel we wouldn’t have this problem in the first place. I’m glad to see that everyone’s response so far is against this idiotic idea.

]]> By: Richard Boettner http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-4923 Richard Boettner Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:29:35 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-4923 Dumping crops into the ocean is a dumb idea. Crop residue is needed to keep the land fertile, as it retains water and turns back into good soil for future crops. What's dumped into the ocean will only harm the ocean in the long run. Besides, erosion is already a huge problem and taking crops to dump them into the ocean only speeds up the process by manually moving what once was earth/soil to the ocean. Don't do it! Dumping crops into the ocean is a dumb idea. Crop residue is needed to keep the land fertile, as it retains water and turns back into good soil for future crops. What’s dumped into the ocean will only harm the ocean in the long run. Besides, erosion is already a huge problem and taking crops to dump them into the ocean only speeds up the process by manually moving what once was earth/soil to the ocean. Don’t do it!

]]> By: Richard Boettner http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-22191 Richard Boettner Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:29:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-22191 Dumping crops into the ocean is a dumb idea. Crop residue is needed to keep the land fertile, as it retains water and turns back into good soil for future crops. What's dumped into the ocean will only harm the ocean in the long run. Besides, erosion is already a huge problem and taking crops to dump them into the ocean only speeds up the process by manually moving what once was earth/soil to the ocean. Don't do it! Dumping crops into the ocean is a dumb idea. Crop residue is needed to keep the land fertile, as it retains water and turns back into good soil for future crops. What’s dumped into the ocean will only harm the ocean in the long run. Besides, erosion is already a huge problem and taking crops to dump them into the ocean only speeds up the process by manually moving what once was earth/soil to the ocean. Don’t do it!

]]> By: Jason Aramburu http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-4922 Jason Aramburu Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:56:06 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-4922 This idea seems incredibly difficult to accomplish for a number of reasons. Transportation/collection costs aside, how could one assure that low-density crop wastes would reach deep ocean levels without getting swept away by surface currents? Sequestration via pyrolysis and biochar has the potential to remove significantly more CO2 from the atmosphere at what is likely a much lower cost. In addition, if biochar is returned to depleted soils the nutrient loss can be reduced or even eliminated. This idea seems incredibly difficult to accomplish for a number of reasons. Transportation/collection costs aside, how could one assure that low-density crop wastes would reach deep ocean levels without getting swept away by surface currents? Sequestration via pyrolysis and biochar has the potential to remove significantly more CO2 from the atmosphere at what is likely a much lower cost. In addition, if biochar is returned to depleted soils the nutrient loss can be reduced or even eliminated.

]]> By: Jason Aramburu http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-22190 Jason Aramburu Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:56:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-22190 This idea seems incredibly difficult to accomplish for a number of reasons. Transportation/collection costs aside, how could one assure that low-density crop wastes would reach deep ocean levels without getting swept away by surface currents? Sequestration via pyrolysis and biochar has the potential to remove significantly more CO2 from the atmosphere at what is likely a much lower cost. In addition, if biochar is returned to depleted soils the nutrient loss can be reduced or even eliminated. This idea seems incredibly difficult to accomplish for a number of reasons. Transportation/collection costs aside, how could one assure that low-density crop wastes would reach deep ocean levels without getting swept away by surface currents? Sequestration via pyrolysis and biochar has the potential to remove significantly more CO2 from the atmosphere at what is likely a much lower cost. In addition, if biochar is returned to depleted soils the nutrient loss can be reduced or even eliminated.

]]> By: Dave Tyler http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/03/researchers-cut-carbon-dioxide-by-dumping-crop-waste-into-the-ocean/#comment-4921 Dave Tyler Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:50:44 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=2064#comment-4921 Matt and David, I agree with you both, at bare minimum this needs idea needs a lot more thought. I'm hearing Jeff Goldblum's voice from Jurassic Park saying "life finds a way." Matt and David, I agree with you both, at bare minimum this needs idea needs a lot more thought. I’m hearing Jeff Goldblum’s voice from Jurassic Park saying “life finds a way.”

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