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		<title>By: lawrencebaker</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-205359</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lawrencebaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 08:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You piece of shit Ariel Schwartz Editor &#039;Mr. Wallice&quot; COWARD. I have your post.copied which I am going to feed back to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You piece of shit Ariel Schwartz Editor &#8216;Mr. Wallice&#8221; COWARD. I have your post.copied which I am going to feed back to you.</p>
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		<title>By: lawrencebaker</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-205358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lawrencebaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 08:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Discussion deleated?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discussion deleated?</p>
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		<title>By: lawrencebaker</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-205261</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lawrencebaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have read through your postings on CleanTecnica and see you are the resident propagandist for the wind industry that typically hang out on such sights. 

Mr.Wallace, if that is your real name, you use Propositional Logic innuendo with no fact and present no science argument let alone a science experiment demonstration. You have no respect.

I on the other hand, I use Aristotelian Logic, the science way of thinking in my investigation and discovery. My working models, that would be impossible for a gimp like you to build; speak for themselves. If you question my mathematics and geometry Mr. Wallace,what is the formula for a 6 and 8 helix rotor?

I hide nothing, in mechanical science we are interested in two things in a machine: torque and speed. We measure speed with a tachometer and torque with two springs that form a Prony Brake.

I posted on this site because because Mr. Fullers demonstrated model is germane to my models and I will argue his mechanical position as well. 

Present a science argument Mr. Wallace not a propositional “its impossible” or shut your brainwashed fool mouth. Ha Ha.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read through your postings on CleanTecnica and see you are the resident propagandist for the wind industry that typically hang out on such sights. </p>
<p>Mr.Wallace, if that is your real name, you use Propositional Logic innuendo with no fact and present no science argument let alone a science experiment demonstration. You have no respect.</p>
<p>I on the other hand, I use Aristotelian Logic, the science way of thinking in my investigation and discovery. My working models, that would be impossible for a gimp like you to build; speak for themselves. If you question my mathematics and geometry Mr. Wallace,what is the formula for a 6 and 8 helix rotor?</p>
<p>I hide nothing, in mechanical science we are interested in two things in a machine: torque and speed. We measure speed with a tachometer and torque with two springs that form a Prony Brake.</p>
<p>I posted on this site because because Mr. Fullers demonstrated model is germane to my models and I will argue his mechanical position as well. </p>
<p>Present a science argument Mr. Wallace not a propositional “its impossible” or shut your brainwashed fool mouth. Ha Ha.</p>
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		<title>By: lawrencebaker</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-205259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lawrencebaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I
have read through your postings on CleanTecnica and see you are the
resident propagandist for the wind industry that typically hang out
on such sights. 

Mr.
Wallace, if that is your real name, you use Propositional Logic
innuendo with no fact and present no science argument let alone a
science experiment demonstration. You have no respect.

I
on the other hand, I use Aristotelian Logic, the science way of
thinking in my investigation and discovery. My working models, that
would be impossible for a gimp like you to build; speak for
themselves. If you question my mathematics and geometry Mr. Wallace,
what is the formula for a 6 and 8 helix rotor?

I
hide nothing, in mechanical science we are interested in two things
in a machine: torque and speed. We measure speed with a tachometer
and torque with two springs that form a Prony Brake.

I
posted on this site because because Mr. Fullers demonstrated model is
germane to my models and I will argue his mechanical position as
well. 

Present
a science argument Mr. Wallace not a propositional “its impossible”
or shut your brainwashed fool mouth. Ha Ha.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I<br />
have read through your postings on CleanTecnica and see you are the<br />
resident propagandist for the wind industry that typically hang out<br />
on such sights. </p>
<p>Mr.<br />
Wallace, if that is your real name, you use Propositional Logic<br />
innuendo with no fact and present no science argument let alone a<br />
science experiment demonstration. You have no respect.</p>
<p>I<br />
on the other hand, I use Aristotelian Logic, the science way of<br />
thinking in my investigation and discovery. My working models, that<br />
would be impossible for a gimp like you to build; speak for<br />
themselves. If you question my mathematics and geometry Mr. Wallace,<br />
what is the formula for a 6 and 8 helix rotor?</p>
<p>I<br />
hide nothing, in mechanical science we are interested in two things<br />
in a machine: torque and speed. We measure speed with a tachometer<br />
and torque with two springs that form a Prony Brake.</p>
<p>I<br />
posted on this site because because Mr. Fullers demonstrated model is<br />
germane to my models and I will argue his mechanical position as<br />
well. </p>
<p>Present<br />
a science argument Mr. Wallace not a propositional “its impossible”<br />
or shut your brainwashed fool mouth. Ha Ha.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-205186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2014 05:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Googled it.

Found a page of fail.

Larry, don&#039;t you have the ability to see how ridiculous your pile of tin is?  You posted a video months ago and you have no performance data?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Googled it.</p>
<p>Found a page of fail.</p>
<p>Larry, don&#8217;t you have the ability to see how ridiculous your pile of tin is?  You posted a video months ago and you have no performance data?</p>
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		<title>By: lawrencebaker</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-205108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lawrencebaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr.
Wallace, if you will goggle “Turbo Vortex Wind Turbine” you will
not see a failed wind energy idea although it may be over your head.
There are so many people who are brainwashed stupid these days.
Professor Betz would role over in his grave if he knew that the
propagandist renamed the propeller dynamic which he defined in
physics as a turbine dynamic. Ha Hal You see in science, working
models are the proof of concept and bull-shit walks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.<br />
Wallace, if you will goggle “Turbo Vortex Wind Turbine” you will<br />
not see a failed wind energy idea although it may be over your head.<br />
There are so many people who are brainwashed stupid these days.<br />
Professor Betz would role over in his grave if he knew that the<br />
propagandist renamed the propeller dynamic which he defined in<br />
physics as a turbine dynamic. Ha Hal You see in science, working<br />
models are the proof of concept and bull-shit walks.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob_Wallace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-204239</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob_Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[5 years later.


Do we see these puppies up and running?  Or was this yet one more small wind idea that failed....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5 years later.</p>
<p>Do we see these puppies up and running?  Or was this yet one more small wind idea that failed&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: lawrencebaker</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-204231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lawrencebaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In geometry and mechanical layout, it is a 3 helix.

The three helix is a primitive design, my ducted 6 and 8 helix turbine
rotors are  much more advanced. The technology is covered in “Low
Pressure Turbine Dynamics” which I am the inventor and author of.

YouTube “Baker Turbo Vortex Wind Turbine for a demonstration.

In short, sweep area applies to Betz&#039;s Law and the Physics of how a
propeller driven wind mill operates.

Change the dynamic to a turbine dynamic operating directly into the energy
source and you have a whole new set of physics. For instance, my 1
sq. ft. test plate made up of 4 three inch half round turbine vanes
that are capped on the ends to contain volume; test much higher than
Professor Betz&#039;s flat plate for wind energy POTENTIAL.

Weight to surface area are important in turbine dynamics where as sweep area
are important to a propeller driven windmill dynamic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In geometry and mechanical layout, it is a 3 helix.</p>
<p>The three helix is a primitive design, my ducted 6 and 8 helix turbine<br />
rotors are  much more advanced. The technology is covered in “Low<br />
Pressure Turbine Dynamics” which I am the inventor and author of.</p>
<p>YouTube “Baker Turbo Vortex Wind Turbine for a demonstration.</p>
<p>In short, sweep area applies to Betz&#8217;s Law and the Physics of how a<br />
propeller driven wind mill operates.</p>
<p>Change the dynamic to a turbine dynamic operating directly into the energy<br />
source and you have a whole new set of physics. For instance, my 1<br />
sq. ft. test plate made up of 4 three inch half round turbine vanes<br />
that are capped on the ends to contain volume; test much higher than<br />
Professor Betz&#8217;s flat plate for wind energy POTENTIAL.</p>
<p>Weight to surface area are important in turbine dynamics where as sweep area<br />
are important to a propeller driven windmill dynamic.</p>
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		<title>By: m c</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-119759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m c]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 08:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anybody see Obamas clean energy Ad,  him standing at a wind farm , blue sky&#039;s green grass, hundreds of windmills lined up like toy soilders with Obama saying this is Americas future energy.
Problem is, not one windmill was turning, but they looked nice.
China has almost stopped installing wind turbines due to the fact dust storms kill them, but happy to sell them to the stupid USA rebadged made in USA.
Off shore wind farms another Obama joke on the tax payer, if dust is a concern for the chinese, what do you thing sea salt is going to do, plus power cables have to be buried 10ft below the ocean floor form 10-20 miles out? what a joke on the tax payer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody see Obamas clean energy Ad,  him standing at a wind farm , blue sky&#8217;s green grass, hundreds of windmills lined up like toy soilders with Obama saying this is Americas future energy.<br />
Problem is, not one windmill was turning, but they looked nice.<br />
China has almost stopped installing wind turbines due to the fact dust storms kill them, but happy to sell them to the stupid USA rebadged made in USA.<br />
Off shore wind farms another Obama joke on the tax payer, if dust is a concern for the chinese, what do you thing sea salt is going to do, plus power cables have to be buried 10ft below the ocean floor form 10-20 miles out? what a joke on the tax payer.</p>
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		<title>By: m c</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-119757</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m c]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 08:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[forget DOEwind energy grants, the obama adminastraited DOE has spent billions on super expencive stupid wind, solar and bio that will never work and his clean coal energy is just a cash cow for the investgators, because it sounds good for his re-election. Obamas DOE is not interested in anything that actually works other than what they have, anything different that cost less will be an embarressment, plus the players they have , have already paid Obama his 10% of of project cost, ever wonder why the DOE knowingly gave millions to insane inventions they knew had prior knowledge will never work but still gave them money while others that do get thrown under the bus?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forget DOEwind energy grants, the obama adminastraited DOE has spent billions on super expencive stupid wind, solar and bio that will never work and his clean coal energy is just a cash cow for the investgators, because it sounds good for his re-election. Obamas DOE is not interested in anything that actually works other than what they have, anything different that cost less will be an embarressment, plus the players they have , have already paid Obama his 10% of of project cost, ever wonder why the DOE knowingly gave millions to insane inventions they knew had prior knowledge will never work but still gave them money while others that do get thrown under the bus?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrickssimpsons</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-107372</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrickssimpsons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you got me an idea regarding with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.protean-engineering.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wind turbines design&lt;/a&gt;. thanks for the info]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you got me an idea regarding with <a href="http://www.protean-engineering.com" rel="nofollow">wind turbines design</a>. thanks for the info</p>
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		<title>By: Mom_112007</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-104358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mom_112007]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i need to calacludtion of wind and information
mom_112007@yahoo.com send here plase]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i need to calacludtion of wind and information<br />
<a href="mailto:mom_112007@yahoo.com">mom_112007@yahoo.com</a> send here plase</p>
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		<title>By: Joe M</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-93024</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 06:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting! No further discussions on this, nothing more from Lawerence Baker, last posting 589 days ago?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting! No further discussions on this, nothing more from Lawerence Baker, last posting 589 days ago?</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Danna</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-90254</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie Danna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice and great idea. Maybe it works just try.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice and great idea. Maybe it works just try.</p>
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		<title>By: hari prasad</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-5694</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hari prasad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think the there might be some wrong calculations with the power output developed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the there might be some wrong calculations with the power output developed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: hari prasad</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-22060</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hari prasad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think the there might be some wrong calculations with the power output developed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the there might be some wrong calculations with the power output developed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: hari prasad</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-22061</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hari prasad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think the there might be some wrong calculations with the power output developed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the there might be some wrong calculations with the power output developed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Vintila Arie</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-5691</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vintila Arie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MY ORIZINTAT WIND POWER IS MUCH BETTER AND EFFICINCY]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MY ORIZINTAT WIND POWER IS MUCH BETTER AND EFFICINCY</p>
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		<title>By: Vintila Arie</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-5689</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vintila Arie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MUCH BETTER WIND VERTICAL STATIONS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MUCH BETTER WIND VERTICAL STATIONS</p>
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		<title>By: Niranjan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/27/the-impossible-wind-turbine-design-that-just-might-work/#comment-5687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niranjan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are talking about wind power, but do not address high wind problems? Nobody is talking about it either! Tell us about wind power from high to extreme wind? tornado to hurricane? This is wind power. The design of 12&#039; by 36&#039; in size and image as displayed here is nothing but joke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are talking about wind power, but do not address high wind problems? Nobody is talking about it either! Tell us about wind power from high to extreme wind? tornado to hurricane? This is wind power. The design of 12&#8242; by 36&#8242; in size and image as displayed here is nothing but joke.</p>
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