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	<title>Comments on: Did a UFO Really Wreck the Wind Turbine in the UK?</title>
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		<title>By: russ</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/09/did-a-ufo-really-wreck-a-wind-turbine-in-the-uk/#comment-21818</link>
		<dc:creator>russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blade can easily be analyzed for metal fatigue - I hope they have already done it.



Mechanical failures like this are easily checked out - there is no magic or aliens involved. I expect that if a little green guy could make it here from space they could surely avoid a slow moving turbine blade.



İf a UAV hit it then bye bye UAV - it would have been found near the turbine.



Be nice for some proper follow up by the turbine supplier to say what really happened in place of letting fools ramble on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blade can easily be analyzed for metal fatigue &#8211; I hope they have already done it.</p>
<p>Mechanical failures like this are easily checked out &#8211; there is no magic or aliens involved. I expect that if a little green guy could make it here from space they could surely avoid a slow moving turbine blade.</p>
<p>İf a UAV hit it then bye bye UAV &#8211; it would have been found near the turbine.</p>
<p>Be nice for some proper follow up by the turbine supplier to say what really happened in place of letting fools ramble on.</p>
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		<title>By: russ</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/09/did-a-ufo-really-wreck-a-wind-turbine-in-the-uk/#comment-4811</link>
		<dc:creator>russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blade can easily be analyzed for metal fatigue - I hope they have already done it.



Mechanical failures like this are easily checked out - there is no magic or aliens involved. I expect that if a little green guy could make it here from space they could surely avoid a slow moving turbine blade.



İf a UAV hit it then bye bye UAV - it would have been found near the turbine.



Be nice for some proper follow up by the turbine supplier to say what really happened in place of letting fools ramble on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blade can easily be analyzed for metal fatigue &#8211; I hope they have already done it.</p>
<p>Mechanical failures like this are easily checked out &#8211; there is no magic or aliens involved. I expect that if a little green guy could make it here from space they could surely avoid a slow moving turbine blade.</p>
<p>İf a UAV hit it then bye bye UAV &#8211; it would have been found near the turbine.</p>
<p>Be nice for some proper follow up by the turbine supplier to say what really happened in place of letting fools ramble on.</p>
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		<title>By: Chevy</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/09/did-a-ufo-really-wreck-a-wind-turbine-in-the-uk/#comment-4810</link>
		<dc:creator>Chevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unoffically, it was a unmanned aircraft test flying in that area ( a friend of mine works at rolls royce) and one of the test flights Unnoffically may have hit the turbine, but on the bright side there was no damage to the UAV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unoffically, it was a unmanned aircraft test flying in that area ( a friend of mine works at rolls royce) and one of the test flights Unnoffically may have hit the turbine, but on the bright side there was no damage to the UAV</p>
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		<title>By: Chevy</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/09/did-a-ufo-really-wreck-a-wind-turbine-in-the-uk/#comment-21817</link>
		<dc:creator>Chevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unoffically, it was a unmanned aircraft test flying in that area ( a friend of mine works at rolls royce) and one of the test flights Unnoffically may have hit the turbine, but on the bright side there was no damage to the UAV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unoffically, it was a unmanned aircraft test flying in that area ( a friend of mine works at rolls royce) and one of the test flights Unnoffically may have hit the turbine, but on the bright side there was no damage to the UAV</p>
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		<title>By: bish</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/09/did-a-ufo-really-wreck-a-wind-turbine-in-the-uk/#comment-4809</link>
		<dc:creator>bish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a blade that size sheared off would have fallen straight to the ground&quot;



not if it was rotating at the time, it wouldn&#039;t - the inertia would cause it to be thrown, on axis with the rotation. that may mean up, down, or anywhere in between.



at any rate, they&#039;ve uncovered the &#039;missing&#039; blade, so no need to worry about that.



as for thinking outside the box, how about this:

water got into the rotor mechanism, then froze, expanding and pushing the prop from it&#039;s intended position. this caused metal to grind against metal, creating noise and friction/heat. the heat melted the ice, upon which the rotor mechanism fell back into place (albeit, presumably, damaged). the inertia of the prop&#039;s modulated position, coupled with the heat/malleability caused one or more blades to become off balance, leading to further grinding and most likely a good wobble in one or more blades, which created the &quot;catastrophic&quot; conditions necessary for a fatigue-related failure.



that&#039;s an educated guess based on what I&#039;ve heard of witness reports, what I&#039;ve seen of the damage, and a decent understanding of physics. thinking outside the box, I&#039;d venture to suggest the only reason a UFO explanation was so widely reported rather than a variant on my much more obvious theory is because Ecotricity and co would really rather not advertise the fact that their wind turbines are fundamentally ill-suited to icy conditions, in spite of the anti-icing system on most turbines&#039; blades.



another, equally simple explanation would be that the anti-icing failed on another turbine, causing ice build up which was eventually thrown from one turbine directly at the (now broken) other. this seems unlikely given how far away the blade was, but it&#039;s entirely possible this started the process described in the first explanation, rather than ice interfering with the rotor mechanism.



however you look at it, it wasn&#039;t little green men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a blade that size sheared off would have fallen straight to the ground&#8221;</p>
<p>not if it was rotating at the time, it wouldn&#8217;t &#8211; the inertia would cause it to be thrown, on axis with the rotation. that may mean up, down, or anywhere in between.</p>
<p>at any rate, they&#8217;ve uncovered the &#8216;missing&#8217; blade, so no need to worry about that.</p>
<p>as for thinking outside the box, how about this:</p>
<p>water got into the rotor mechanism, then froze, expanding and pushing the prop from it&#8217;s intended position. this caused metal to grind against metal, creating noise and friction/heat. the heat melted the ice, upon which the rotor mechanism fell back into place (albeit, presumably, damaged). the inertia of the prop&#8217;s modulated position, coupled with the heat/malleability caused one or more blades to become off balance, leading to further grinding and most likely a good wobble in one or more blades, which created the &#8220;catastrophic&#8221; conditions necessary for a fatigue-related failure.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s an educated guess based on what I&#8217;ve heard of witness reports, what I&#8217;ve seen of the damage, and a decent understanding of physics. thinking outside the box, I&#8217;d venture to suggest the only reason a UFO explanation was so widely reported rather than a variant on my much more obvious theory is because Ecotricity and co would really rather not advertise the fact that their wind turbines are fundamentally ill-suited to icy conditions, in spite of the anti-icing system on most turbines&#8217; blades.</p>
<p>another, equally simple explanation would be that the anti-icing failed on another turbine, causing ice build up which was eventually thrown from one turbine directly at the (now broken) other. this seems unlikely given how far away the blade was, but it&#8217;s entirely possible this started the process described in the first explanation, rather than ice interfering with the rotor mechanism.</p>
<p>however you look at it, it wasn&#8217;t little green men.</p>
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		<title>By: bish</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/09/did-a-ufo-really-wreck-a-wind-turbine-in-the-uk/#comment-21816</link>
		<dc:creator>bish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a blade that size sheared off would have fallen straight to the ground&quot;



not if it was rotating at the time, it wouldn&#039;t - the inertia would cause it to be thrown, on axis with the rotation. that may mean up, down, or anywhere in between.



at any rate, they&#039;ve uncovered the &#039;missing&#039; blade, so no need to worry about that.



as for thinking outside the box, how about this:

water got into the rotor mechanism, then froze, expanding and pushing the prop from it&#039;s intended position. this caused metal to grind against metal, creating noise and friction/heat. the heat melted the ice, upon which the rotor mechanism fell back into place (albeit, presumably, damaged). the inertia of the prop&#039;s modulated position, coupled with the heat/malleability caused one or more blades to become off balance, leading to further grinding and most likely a good wobble in one or more blades, which created the &quot;catastrophic&quot; conditions necessary for a fatigue-related failure.



that&#039;s an educated guess based on what I&#039;ve heard of witness reports, what I&#039;ve seen of the damage, and a decent understanding of physics. thinking outside the box, I&#039;d venture to suggest the only reason a UFO explanation was so widely reported rather than a variant on my much more obvious theory is because Ecotricity and co would really rather not advertise the fact that their wind turbines are fundamentally ill-suited to icy conditions, in spite of the anti-icing system on most turbines&#039; blades.



another, equally simple explanation would be that the anti-icing failed on another turbine, causing ice build up which was eventually thrown from one turbine directly at the (now broken) other. this seems unlikely given how far away the blade was, but it&#039;s entirely possible this started the process described in the first explanation, rather than ice interfering with the rotor mechanism.



however you look at it, it wasn&#039;t little green men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a blade that size sheared off would have fallen straight to the ground&#8221;</p>
<p>not if it was rotating at the time, it wouldn&#8217;t &#8211; the inertia would cause it to be thrown, on axis with the rotation. that may mean up, down, or anywhere in between.</p>
<p>at any rate, they&#8217;ve uncovered the &#8216;missing&#8217; blade, so no need to worry about that.</p>
<p>as for thinking outside the box, how about this:</p>
<p>water got into the rotor mechanism, then froze, expanding and pushing the prop from it&#8217;s intended position. this caused metal to grind against metal, creating noise and friction/heat. the heat melted the ice, upon which the rotor mechanism fell back into place (albeit, presumably, damaged). the inertia of the prop&#8217;s modulated position, coupled with the heat/malleability caused one or more blades to become off balance, leading to further grinding and most likely a good wobble in one or more blades, which created the &#8220;catastrophic&#8221; conditions necessary for a fatigue-related failure.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s an educated guess based on what I&#8217;ve heard of witness reports, what I&#8217;ve seen of the damage, and a decent understanding of physics. thinking outside the box, I&#8217;d venture to suggest the only reason a UFO explanation was so widely reported rather than a variant on my much more obvious theory is because Ecotricity and co would really rather not advertise the fact that their wind turbines are fundamentally ill-suited to icy conditions, in spite of the anti-icing system on most turbines&#8217; blades.</p>
<p>another, equally simple explanation would be that the anti-icing failed on another turbine, causing ice build up which was eventually thrown from one turbine directly at the (now broken) other. this seems unlikely given how far away the blade was, but it&#8217;s entirely possible this started the process described in the first explanation, rather than ice interfering with the rotor mechanism.</p>
<p>however you look at it, it wasn&#8217;t little green men.</p>
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		<title>By: rachel</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/09/did-a-ufo-really-wreck-a-wind-turbine-in-the-uk/#comment-4808</link>
		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the blade? Given the known laws of physics-the blade should be relatively easy to find. Why can&#039;t they find it? Because, something which defies the known laws of physics has taken place.



Given what I know of physics-a blade that size sheared off would have fallen straight to the ground. Also, if another known air vehicle had been involved given the nature of the blade and the damage to the other blade, along with the fact the other turbines were untouched-leaves more questions than answers.



It is time to think outside the box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the blade? Given the known laws of physics-the blade should be relatively easy to find. Why can&#8217;t they find it? Because, something which defies the known laws of physics has taken place.</p>
<p>Given what I know of physics-a blade that size sheared off would have fallen straight to the ground. Also, if another known air vehicle had been involved given the nature of the blade and the damage to the other blade, along with the fact the other turbines were untouched-leaves more questions than answers.</p>
<p>It is time to think outside the box.</p>
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		<title>By: rachel</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/09/did-a-ufo-really-wreck-a-wind-turbine-in-the-uk/#comment-21815</link>
		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the blade? Given the known laws of physics-the blade should be relatively easy to find. Why can&#039;t they find it? Because, something which defies the known laws of physics has taken place.



Given what I know of physics-a blade that size sheared off would have fallen straight to the ground. Also, if another known air vehicle had been involved given the nature of the blade and the damage to the other blade, along with the fact the other turbines were untouched-leaves more questions than answers.



It is time to think outside the box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the blade? Given the known laws of physics-the blade should be relatively easy to find. Why can&#8217;t they find it? Because, something which defies the known laws of physics has taken place.</p>
<p>Given what I know of physics-a blade that size sheared off would have fallen straight to the ground. Also, if another known air vehicle had been involved given the nature of the blade and the damage to the other blade, along with the fact the other turbines were untouched-leaves more questions than answers.</p>
<p>It is time to think outside the box.</p>
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		<title>By: PasserBy</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/09/did-a-ufo-really-wreck-a-wind-turbine-in-the-uk/#comment-4807</link>
		<dc:creator>PasserBy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the blade shearing off was due to material fatigue and subsequent mechanical failure then the only force that could have effected the failure would have been the blade&#039;s own weight while the turbine was not in motion (if centrifugal force had caused the shearing while the blades were in motion then the resulting imbalance would have destroyed the entire tower - there are YouTube videos showing this). I am shocked if wind turbines are really so poorly designed and constructed that such a thing could be possible. Also, if you see photographs of the actual turbine, it is obvious that the damage to the second blade cannot have been caused by the severed first blade.



I just hope that the physical evidence is examined forensically to try to find out what caused this damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the blade shearing off was due to material fatigue and subsequent mechanical failure then the only force that could have effected the failure would have been the blade&#8217;s own weight while the turbine was not in motion (if centrifugal force had caused the shearing while the blades were in motion then the resulting imbalance would have destroyed the entire tower &#8211; there are YouTube videos showing this). I am shocked if wind turbines are really so poorly designed and constructed that such a thing could be possible. Also, if you see photographs of the actual turbine, it is obvious that the damage to the second blade cannot have been caused by the severed first blade.</p>
<p>I just hope that the physical evidence is examined forensically to try to find out what caused this damage.</p>
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		<title>By: PasserBy</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2009/01/09/did-a-ufo-really-wreck-a-wind-turbine-in-the-uk/#comment-21814</link>
		<dc:creator>PasserBy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the blade shearing off was due to material fatigue and subsequent mechanical failure then the only force that could have effected the failure would have been the blade&#039;s own weight while the turbine was not in motion (if centrifugal force had caused the shearing while the blades were in motion then the resulting imbalance would have destroyed the entire tower - there are YouTube videos showing this). I am shocked if wind turbines are really so poorly designed and constructed that such a thing could be possible. Also, if you see photographs of the actual turbine, it is obvious that the damage to the second blade cannot have been caused by the severed first blade.



I just hope that the physical evidence is examined forensically to try to find out what caused this damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the blade shearing off was due to material fatigue and subsequent mechanical failure then the only force that could have effected the failure would have been the blade&#8217;s own weight while the turbine was not in motion (if centrifugal force had caused the shearing while the blades were in motion then the resulting imbalance would have destroyed the entire tower &#8211; there are YouTube videos showing this). I am shocked if wind turbines are really so poorly designed and constructed that such a thing could be possible. Also, if you see photographs of the actual turbine, it is obvious that the damage to the second blade cannot have been caused by the severed first blade.</p>
<p>I just hope that the physical evidence is examined forensically to try to find out what caused this damage.</p>
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