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	<title>Comments on: Dubai to Create World&#039;s First Refrigerated Beach</title>
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		<title>By: christiano</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-3797</link>
		<dc:creator>christiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly it falls under the category of spectacularly wasteful - but that&#039;s the point. Some of the ideas in the comments about using geothermal energy, heat pumps and etc - in other words harnessing the power of unbridled opulence to fund experimental eco-projects that could then continue onto more practical applications - but think about it: you&#039;re talking about Dubai, the city built entirely on the dirtiest profit of them all. The idea-logic of Dubai&#039;s existence is so totally opposed to green technology that I don&#039;t believe there is much hope. Any engineers or advocates that might be inclined to develop a green solution will be the last folks invited to the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly it falls under the category of spectacularly wasteful &#8211; but that&#8217;s the point. Some of the ideas in the comments about using geothermal energy, heat pumps and etc &#8211; in other words harnessing the power of unbridled opulence to fund experimental eco-projects that could then continue onto more practical applications &#8211; but think about it: you&#8217;re talking about Dubai, the city built entirely on the dirtiest profit of them all. The idea-logic of Dubai&#8217;s existence is so totally opposed to green technology that I don&#8217;t believe there is much hope. Any engineers or advocates that might be inclined to develop a green solution will be the last folks invited to the party.</p>
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		<title>By: christiano</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-21355</link>
		<dc:creator>christiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly it falls under the category of spectacularly wasteful - but that&#039;s the point. Some of the ideas in the comments about using geothermal energy, heat pumps and etc - in other words harnessing the power of unbridled opulence to fund experimental eco-projects that could then continue onto more practical applications - but think about it: you&#039;re talking about Dubai, the city built entirely on the dirtiest profit of them all. The idea-logic of Dubai&#039;s existence is so totally opposed to green technology that I don&#039;t believe there is much hope. Any engineers or advocates that might be inclined to develop a green solution will be the last folks invited to the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly it falls under the category of spectacularly wasteful &#8211; but that&#8217;s the point. Some of the ideas in the comments about using geothermal energy, heat pumps and etc &#8211; in other words harnessing the power of unbridled opulence to fund experimental eco-projects that could then continue onto more practical applications &#8211; but think about it: you&#8217;re talking about Dubai, the city built entirely on the dirtiest profit of them all. The idea-logic of Dubai&#8217;s existence is so totally opposed to green technology that I don&#8217;t believe there is much hope. Any engineers or advocates that might be inclined to develop a green solution will be the last folks invited to the party.</p>
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		<title>By: christiano</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-21356</link>
		<dc:creator>christiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly it falls under the category of spectacularly wasteful - but that&#039;s the point. Some of the ideas in the comments about using geothermal energy, heat pumps and etc - in other words harnessing the power of unbridled opulence to fund experimental eco-projects that could then continue onto more practical applications - but think about it: you&#039;re talking about Dubai, the city built entirely on the dirtiest profit of them all. The idea-logic of Dubai&#039;s existence is so totally opposed to green technology that I don&#039;t believe there is much hope. Any engineers or advocates that might be inclined to develop a green solution will be the last folks invited to the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly it falls under the category of spectacularly wasteful &#8211; but that&#8217;s the point. Some of the ideas in the comments about using geothermal energy, heat pumps and etc &#8211; in other words harnessing the power of unbridled opulence to fund experimental eco-projects that could then continue onto more practical applications &#8211; but think about it: you&#8217;re talking about Dubai, the city built entirely on the dirtiest profit of them all. The idea-logic of Dubai&#8217;s existence is so totally opposed to green technology that I don&#8217;t believe there is much hope. Any engineers or advocates that might be inclined to develop a green solution will be the last folks invited to the party.</p>
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		<title>By: AnEnergyAnalyst</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-3796</link>
		<dc:creator>AnEnergyAnalyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting concept, and not necessarily a horrible thing. The coolant could be a corn-based glycol currently used in solar thermal water heating systems. The tubes might be ground-coupled or head out to sea to take advantage of the higher temperature gradients.



The pumps themselves could be PV or wind powered (they have no shortage of sun or breezes), and only operate during the hottest parts of the day. Granted, there are probably better uses for such technologies, but this is a nice proof-of-concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting concept, and not necessarily a horrible thing. The coolant could be a corn-based glycol currently used in solar thermal water heating systems. The tubes might be ground-coupled or head out to sea to take advantage of the higher temperature gradients.</p>
<p>The pumps themselves could be PV or wind powered (they have no shortage of sun or breezes), and only operate during the hottest parts of the day. Granted, there are probably better uses for such technologies, but this is a nice proof-of-concept.</p>
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		<title>By: AnEnergyAnalyst</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-21354</link>
		<dc:creator>AnEnergyAnalyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting concept, and not necessarily a horrible thing. The coolant could be a corn-based glycol currently used in solar thermal water heating systems. The tubes might be ground-coupled or head out to sea to take advantage of the higher temperature gradients.



The pumps themselves could be PV or wind powered (they have no shortage of sun or breezes), and only operate during the hottest parts of the day. Granted, there are probably better uses for such technologies, but this is a nice proof-of-concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting concept, and not necessarily a horrible thing. The coolant could be a corn-based glycol currently used in solar thermal water heating systems. The tubes might be ground-coupled or head out to sea to take advantage of the higher temperature gradients.</p>
<p>The pumps themselves could be PV or wind powered (they have no shortage of sun or breezes), and only operate during the hottest parts of the day. Granted, there are probably better uses for such technologies, but this is a nice proof-of-concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Gokhan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-3795</link>
		<dc:creator>Gokhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pumping coolant to the pipes will consume useful energy. I think, wasting it for such a comfort is not nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pumping coolant to the pipes will consume useful energy. I think, wasting it for such a comfort is not nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Gokhan</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-21353</link>
		<dc:creator>Gokhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pumping coolant to the pipes will consume useful energy. I think, wasting it for such a comfort is not nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pumping coolant to the pipes will consume useful energy. I think, wasting it for such a comfort is not nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-3794</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They could use the waste heat for some good use.  Water heating or something. It would essentially be a geothermal heat pump.  You could do this kind of stuff if you had enough energy. Since energy cannot be created or destroyed it could be considered free.  This doesn&#039;t outrage me at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could use the waste heat for some good use.  Water heating or something. It would essentially be a geothermal heat pump.  You could do this kind of stuff if you had enough energy. Since energy cannot be created or destroyed it could be considered free.  This doesn&#8217;t outrage me at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-21351</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They could use the waste heat for some good use.  Water heating or something. It would essentially be a geothermal heat pump.  You could do this kind of stuff if you had enough energy. Since energy cannot be created or destroyed it could be considered free.  This doesn&#039;t outrage me at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could use the waste heat for some good use.  Water heating or something. It would essentially be a geothermal heat pump.  You could do this kind of stuff if you had enough energy. Since energy cannot be created or destroyed it could be considered free.  This doesn&#8217;t outrage me at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-21352</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They could use the waste heat for some good use.  Water heating or something. It would essentially be a geothermal heat pump.  You could do this kind of stuff if you had enough energy. Since energy cannot be created or destroyed it could be considered free.  This doesn&#039;t outrage me at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could use the waste heat for some good use.  Water heating or something. It would essentially be a geothermal heat pump.  You could do this kind of stuff if you had enough energy. Since energy cannot be created or destroyed it could be considered free.  This doesn&#8217;t outrage me at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-3793</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is yet another reason why we should get off of oil: these idiots should not have our money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is yet another reason why we should get off of oil: these idiots should not have our money.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-21349</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is yet another reason why we should get off of oil: these idiots should not have our money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is yet another reason why we should get off of oil: these idiots should not have our money.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-21350</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is yet another reason why we should get off of oil: these idiots should not have our money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is yet another reason why we should get off of oil: these idiots should not have our money.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy B. Hurst</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-3792</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy B. Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absolutely unbelievable. Along with Dubai&#039;s ridiculous indoor ski area this shows exactly how irresponsible the UAE is becoming with their newfound wealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absolutely unbelievable. Along with Dubai&#8217;s ridiculous indoor ski area this shows exactly how irresponsible the UAE is becoming with their newfound wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy B. Hurst</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/15/dubai-to-create-worlds-first-refrigerated-beach/#comment-21347</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy B. Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absolutely unbelievable. Along with Dubai&#039;s ridiculous indoor ski area this shows exactly how irresponsible the UAE is becoming with their newfound wealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absolutely unbelievable. Along with Dubai&#8217;s ridiculous indoor ski area this shows exactly how irresponsible the UAE is becoming with their newfound wealth.</p>
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