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	<title>Comments on: GE Ends Development of Incandescent Bulbs, Focuses on LEDs</title>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-29107</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 00:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped buying from GE a year ago. I refuse to use CFL&#039;s. They give off horrible light and they have mercury in them. If you break one, you have to treat it like a hazmat accident! No thanks!

I buy Sylvania light bulbs. I will buy incandescent light bulbs wherever I can. So long GE. Don&#039;t let the door hit you on the way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped buying from GE a year ago. I refuse to use CFL&#8217;s. They give off horrible light and they have mercury in them. If you break one, you have to treat it like a hazmat accident! No thanks!</p>
<p>I buy Sylvania light bulbs. I will buy incandescent light bulbs wherever I can. So long GE. Don&#8217;t let the door hit you on the way out.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter in Dublin</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-4782</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter in Dublin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds a pity they abandoned those development plans Jerry...



All lights have advantages, none should be banned.

People can make up their own minds about the advantages, including any energy savings, and pay more for using ordinary light bulbs if that’s what they want.



Does society need to save energy?

No, there’s plenty, including new renewable forms.



Does society need to save on greenhouse gases?

Yes, on current evidence.

But everyone forgets a basic simple fact:

Light bulbs don’t give out any gases.

Power stations don’t necessarily either.

Power station emissions can of course be dealt with themselves (including by new energy forms)

- bans are unfair on emission-free households

and in the end don’t save that much energy or money or emissions anyway as explained on

http://www.ceolas.net/#li13x onwards



Also:

Imagine if LED lamps are so great:

Then people will want to buy a lot of  them.

Again, therfore no need to ban bulbs in that case.

After all, the perverse logic of the light bulb ban is that people don&#039;t want to buy &quot;energy saving&quot; fluorescent lights, so they have to be forced into it:  No need to ban an impopular product!

When transistors came, that didn&#039;t mean having to ban radio tubes (valves)....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds a pity they abandoned those development plans Jerry&#8230;</p>
<p>All lights have advantages, none should be banned.</p>
<p>People can make up their own minds about the advantages, including any energy savings, and pay more for using ordinary light bulbs if that’s what they want.</p>
<p>Does society need to save energy?</p>
<p>No, there’s plenty, including new renewable forms.</p>
<p>Does society need to save on greenhouse gases?</p>
<p>Yes, on current evidence.</p>
<p>But everyone forgets a basic simple fact:</p>
<p>Light bulbs don’t give out any gases.</p>
<p>Power stations don’t necessarily either.</p>
<p>Power station emissions can of course be dealt with themselves (including by new energy forms)</p>
<p>- bans are unfair on emission-free households</p>
<p>and in the end don’t save that much energy or money or emissions anyway as explained on</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ceolas.net/#li13x" rel="nofollow">http://www.ceolas.net/#li13x</a> onwards</p>
<p>Also:</p>
<p>Imagine if LED lamps are so great:</p>
<p>Then people will want to buy a lot of  them.</p>
<p>Again, therfore no need to ban bulbs in that case.</p>
<p>After all, the perverse logic of the light bulb ban is that people don&#8217;t want to buy &#8220;energy saving&#8221; fluorescent lights, so they have to be forced into it:  No need to ban an impopular product!</p>
<p>When transistors came, that didn&#8217;t mean having to ban radio tubes (valves)&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter in Dublin</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-21155</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter in Dublin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds a pity they abandoned those development plans Jerry...



All lights have advantages, none should be banned.

People can make up their own minds about the advantages, including any energy savings, and pay more for using ordinary light bulbs if that’s what they want.



Does society need to save energy?

No, there’s plenty, including new renewable forms.



Does society need to save on greenhouse gases?

Yes, on current evidence.

But everyone forgets a basic simple fact:

Light bulbs don’t give out any gases.

Power stations don’t necessarily either.

Power station emissions can of course be dealt with themselves (including by new energy forms)

- bans are unfair on emission-free households

and in the end don’t save that much energy or money or emissions anyway as explained on

http://www.ceolas.net/#li13x onwards



Also:

Imagine if LED lamps are so great:

Then people will want to buy a lot of  them.

Again, therfore no need to ban bulbs in that case.

After all, the perverse logic of the light bulb ban is that people don&#039;t want to buy &quot;energy saving&quot; fluorescent lights, so they have to be forced into it:  No need to ban an impopular product!

When transistors came, that didn&#039;t mean having to ban radio tubes (valves)....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds a pity they abandoned those development plans Jerry&#8230;</p>
<p>All lights have advantages, none should be banned.</p>
<p>People can make up their own minds about the advantages, including any energy savings, and pay more for using ordinary light bulbs if that’s what they want.</p>
<p>Does society need to save energy?</p>
<p>No, there’s plenty, including new renewable forms.</p>
<p>Does society need to save on greenhouse gases?</p>
<p>Yes, on current evidence.</p>
<p>But everyone forgets a basic simple fact:</p>
<p>Light bulbs don’t give out any gases.</p>
<p>Power stations don’t necessarily either.</p>
<p>Power station emissions can of course be dealt with themselves (including by new energy forms)</p>
<p>- bans are unfair on emission-free households</p>
<p>and in the end don’t save that much energy or money or emissions anyway as explained on</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ceolas.net/#li13x" rel="nofollow">http://www.ceolas.net/#li13x</a> onwards</p>
<p>Also:</p>
<p>Imagine if LED lamps are so great:</p>
<p>Then people will want to buy a lot of  them.</p>
<p>Again, therfore no need to ban bulbs in that case.</p>
<p>After all, the perverse logic of the light bulb ban is that people don&#8217;t want to buy &#8220;energy saving&#8221; fluorescent lights, so they have to be forced into it:  No need to ban an impopular product!</p>
<p>When transistors came, that didn&#8217;t mean having to ban radio tubes (valves)&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: shelley rock</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-4781</link>
		<dc:creator>shelley rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...this is AWESOME news since there is NO way I would ever endorse CFLS and their nasty mercury!

Thanks Jerry for sharing. Awesome job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;this is AWESOME news since there is NO way I would ever endorse CFLS and their nasty mercury!</p>
<p>Thanks Jerry for sharing. Awesome job!</p>
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		<title>By: shelley rock</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-21153</link>
		<dc:creator>shelley rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...this is AWESOME news since there is NO way I would ever endorse CFLS and their nasty mercury!

Thanks Jerry for sharing. Awesome job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;this is AWESOME news since there is NO way I would ever endorse CFLS and their nasty mercury!</p>
<p>Thanks Jerry for sharing. Awesome job!</p>
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		<title>By: shelley rock</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-21154</link>
		<dc:creator>shelley rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...this is AWESOME news since there is NO way I would ever endorse CFLS and their nasty mercury!

Thanks Jerry for sharing. Awesome job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;this is AWESOME news since there is NO way I would ever endorse CFLS and their nasty mercury!</p>
<p>Thanks Jerry for sharing. Awesome job!</p>
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		<title>By: fred heidrick</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-4780</link>
		<dc:creator>fred heidrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like david schuellerman  i allso have seizuer like spells  with the lousy floresent lights all my life from 1954.



so i hope LEDs can have some red light added so i dont have to live out side for the rest of my life becaues you all want to be more energy eficent and having me floping on the floor like a fish out of water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like david schuellerman  i allso have seizuer like spells  with the lousy floresent lights all my life from 1954.</p>
<p>so i hope LEDs can have some red light added so i dont have to live out side for the rest of my life becaues you all want to be more energy eficent and having me floping on the floor like a fish out of water.</p>
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		<title>By: fred heidrick</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-21151</link>
		<dc:creator>fred heidrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like david schuellerman  i allso have seizuer like spells  with the lousy floresent lights all my life from 1954.



so i hope LEDs can have some red light added so i dont have to live out side for the rest of my life becaues you all want to be more energy eficent and having me floping on the floor like a fish out of water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like david schuellerman  i allso have seizuer like spells  with the lousy floresent lights all my life from 1954.</p>
<p>so i hope LEDs can have some red light added so i dont have to live out side for the rest of my life becaues you all want to be more energy eficent and having me floping on the floor like a fish out of water.</p>
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		<title>By: fred heidrick</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-21152</link>
		<dc:creator>fred heidrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like david schuellerman  i allso have seizuer like spells  with the lousy floresent lights all my life from 1954.



so i hope LEDs can have some red light added so i dont have to live out side for the rest of my life becaues you all want to be more energy eficent and having me floping on the floor like a fish out of water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like david schuellerman  i allso have seizuer like spells  with the lousy floresent lights all my life from 1954.</p>
<p>so i hope LEDs can have some red light added so i dont have to live out side for the rest of my life becaues you all want to be more energy eficent and having me floping on the floor like a fish out of water.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristy Nichols</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-21150</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristy Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is so unfortunate that even wonderful new technological and environmental advancements are now costing jobs.  Is there no way around this??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so unfortunate that even wonderful new technological and environmental advancements are now costing jobs.  Is there no way around this??</p>
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		<title>By: Kristy Nichols</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-4779</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristy Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cleantechnica.com/?p=1593#comment-4779</guid>
		<description>It is so unfortunate that even wonderful new technological and environmental advancements are now costing jobs.  Is there no way around this??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so unfortunate that even wonderful new technological and environmental advancements are now costing jobs.  Is there no way around this??</p>
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		<title>By: Energy Analyst</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-4778</link>
		<dc:creator>Energy Analyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got to agree with Rolf. I don&#039;t know what kind of CFL&#039;s many of you are using, but the newest generation of lamps are great. Flicker issues have mostly been resolved in the major brands. There are many different color spectra available at all of your big box stores; I use a bright white, about 6500K for my aquaria setups, and soft whites in household lamps. I attended a training at GE&#039;s lab in Ohio, and during one of the courses the class was asked to identify which lampshade was hiding the CFL. Only about 10% of the people there could tell, and these were engineers, consultants, and lighting experts. Anyone that tells me they can 100% tell the difference in a shaded or ensconced bulb is probably lying.



As for longevity, I still have some bulbs that I used in my college apartment almost 10 years ago. I want them to burn out so I can get new bulbs. Some of them were even used in bathrooms (round, frosted bulbs for vanity lighting and longer squarish Edison-base bulbs for the exhaust fan.) As long as the ballast has circulation you&#039;re good.



I&#039;ve had great experiences with GE, Philips, Sylvania, nVision and Ikea. Between those 5 brands, there&#039;s probably a CFL that fits your needs. They may not be available in your area, but they exist. There are quite a few other brands that consistently rank very high. The New York times did a comprehensive test sometime last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got to agree with Rolf. I don&#8217;t know what kind of CFL&#8217;s many of you are using, but the newest generation of lamps are great. Flicker issues have mostly been resolved in the major brands. There are many different color spectra available at all of your big box stores; I use a bright white, about 6500K for my aquaria setups, and soft whites in household lamps. I attended a training at GE&#8217;s lab in Ohio, and during one of the courses the class was asked to identify which lampshade was hiding the CFL. Only about 10% of the people there could tell, and these were engineers, consultants, and lighting experts. Anyone that tells me they can 100% tell the difference in a shaded or ensconced bulb is probably lying.</p>
<p>As for longevity, I still have some bulbs that I used in my college apartment almost 10 years ago. I want them to burn out so I can get new bulbs. Some of them were even used in bathrooms (round, frosted bulbs for vanity lighting and longer squarish Edison-base bulbs for the exhaust fan.) As long as the ballast has circulation you&#8217;re good.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had great experiences with GE, Philips, Sylvania, nVision and Ikea. Between those 5 brands, there&#8217;s probably a CFL that fits your needs. They may not be available in your area, but they exist. There are quite a few other brands that consistently rank very high. The New York times did a comprehensive test sometime last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Energy Analyst</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-21148</link>
		<dc:creator>Energy Analyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got to agree with Rolf. I don&#039;t know what kind of CFL&#039;s many of you are using, but the newest generation of lamps are great. Flicker issues have mostly been resolved in the major brands. There are many different color spectra available at all of your big box stores; I use a bright white, about 6500K for my aquaria setups, and soft whites in household lamps. I attended a training at GE&#039;s lab in Ohio, and during one of the courses the class was asked to identify which lampshade was hiding the CFL. Only about 10% of the people there could tell, and these were engineers, consultants, and lighting experts. Anyone that tells me they can 100% tell the difference in a shaded or ensconced bulb is probably lying.



As for longevity, I still have some bulbs that I used in my college apartment almost 10 years ago. I want them to burn out so I can get new bulbs. Some of them were even used in bathrooms (round, frosted bulbs for vanity lighting and longer squarish Edison-base bulbs for the exhaust fan.) As long as the ballast has circulation you&#039;re good.



I&#039;ve had great experiences with GE, Philips, Sylvania, nVision and Ikea. Between those 5 brands, there&#039;s probably a CFL that fits your needs. They may not be available in your area, but they exist. There are quite a few other brands that consistently rank very high. The New York times did a comprehensive test sometime last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got to agree with Rolf. I don&#8217;t know what kind of CFL&#8217;s many of you are using, but the newest generation of lamps are great. Flicker issues have mostly been resolved in the major brands. There are many different color spectra available at all of your big box stores; I use a bright white, about 6500K for my aquaria setups, and soft whites in household lamps. I attended a training at GE&#8217;s lab in Ohio, and during one of the courses the class was asked to identify which lampshade was hiding the CFL. Only about 10% of the people there could tell, and these were engineers, consultants, and lighting experts. Anyone that tells me they can 100% tell the difference in a shaded or ensconced bulb is probably lying.</p>
<p>As for longevity, I still have some bulbs that I used in my college apartment almost 10 years ago. I want them to burn out so I can get new bulbs. Some of them were even used in bathrooms (round, frosted bulbs for vanity lighting and longer squarish Edison-base bulbs for the exhaust fan.) As long as the ballast has circulation you&#8217;re good.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had great experiences with GE, Philips, Sylvania, nVision and Ikea. Between those 5 brands, there&#8217;s probably a CFL that fits your needs. They may not be available in your area, but they exist. There are quite a few other brands that consistently rank very high. The New York times did a comprehensive test sometime last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Energy Analyst</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-21149</link>
		<dc:creator>Energy Analyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cleantechnica.com/?p=1593#comment-21149</guid>
		<description>Got to agree with Rolf. I don&#039;t know what kind of CFL&#039;s many of you are using, but the newest generation of lamps are great. Flicker issues have mostly been resolved in the major brands. There are many different color spectra available at all of your big box stores; I use a bright white, about 6500K for my aquaria setups, and soft whites in household lamps. I attended a training at GE&#039;s lab in Ohio, and during one of the courses the class was asked to identify which lampshade was hiding the CFL. Only about 10% of the people there could tell, and these were engineers, consultants, and lighting experts. Anyone that tells me they can 100% tell the difference in a shaded or ensconced bulb is probably lying.



As for longevity, I still have some bulbs that I used in my college apartment almost 10 years ago. I want them to burn out so I can get new bulbs. Some of them were even used in bathrooms (round, frosted bulbs for vanity lighting and longer squarish Edison-base bulbs for the exhaust fan.) As long as the ballast has circulation you&#039;re good.



I&#039;ve had great experiences with GE, Philips, Sylvania, nVision and Ikea. Between those 5 brands, there&#039;s probably a CFL that fits your needs. They may not be available in your area, but they exist. There are quite a few other brands that consistently rank very high. The New York times did a comprehensive test sometime last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got to agree with Rolf. I don&#8217;t know what kind of CFL&#8217;s many of you are using, but the newest generation of lamps are great. Flicker issues have mostly been resolved in the major brands. There are many different color spectra available at all of your big box stores; I use a bright white, about 6500K for my aquaria setups, and soft whites in household lamps. I attended a training at GE&#8217;s lab in Ohio, and during one of the courses the class was asked to identify which lampshade was hiding the CFL. Only about 10% of the people there could tell, and these were engineers, consultants, and lighting experts. Anyone that tells me they can 100% tell the difference in a shaded or ensconced bulb is probably lying.</p>
<p>As for longevity, I still have some bulbs that I used in my college apartment almost 10 years ago. I want them to burn out so I can get new bulbs. Some of them were even used in bathrooms (round, frosted bulbs for vanity lighting and longer squarish Edison-base bulbs for the exhaust fan.) As long as the ballast has circulation you&#8217;re good.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had great experiences with GE, Philips, Sylvania, nVision and Ikea. Between those 5 brands, there&#8217;s probably a CFL that fits your needs. They may not be available in your area, but they exist. There are quite a few other brands that consistently rank very high. The New York times did a comprehensive test sometime last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Jace</title>
		<link>http://cleantechnica.com/2008/12/02/ge-ends-development-of-incandescent-bulbs-focuses-on-leds/#comment-4777</link>
		<dc:creator>Jace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think CFL lasts longer and safer??? Then look at following links...



http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=190185



http://www.execulink.com/~impact/fluorescent_lights.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think CFL lasts longer and safer??? Then look at following links&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=190185" rel="nofollow">http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=190185</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.execulink.com/~impact/fluorescent_lights.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.execulink.com/~impact/fluorescent_lights.htm</a></p>
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