Comments on: 99 Year Old Hydroelectric Plant Coming Back Online http://cleantechnica.com/2008/10/30/99-year-old-hydroelectric-plant-coming-back-online/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Uncle B http://cleantechnica.com/2008/10/30/99-year-old-hydroelectric-plant-coming-back-online/#comment-4653 Uncle B Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:18:18 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=1395#comment-4653 Off topic a bit perhaps, but certainly on target: Use modern day super-insulation to help conserve the power we are able to get! No longer acceptable, the Bull Shiite like the "American Dream" lifestyle demands, a smaller scale lifestyle is in order for all of us! Bicycles, humanured, composted, home gardening, Aquaculture, smaller homes, better insulated, and better thought out, less consumption and better use of what we do consume! We face a "Population Bomb"! China suggests it will allow two children per couple to compensate for aging workforce, greater numbers of elders in their population! This means we must share the limited world resources with even more demand (doubled in a decade at least!) from Asians! We face a time when the American dollar once commanded 80% of world's resources, no longer has value at all! the Chinese "Yuan" is much stronger and will compete successfully against our dollar on world markets even for oil, our old monopoly - the Cartel being broken down as we speak! Iran sold the South Azadegan Oilfields to China recently! (largest discovery in the Middle East in thirty years! Gone!) Transactions? in Yuan not dollars! We get none of this resource in the West! Western civilization is in a precarious position! We must change, cut back, hunker down for the economic storm ahead! Small hydro installations, safe to environment or not, may make survival in the really tough times coming, in the next decades possible! We are forced to play off environmental issues against basic survival, under the Asian pressures on us today! Not nice choices to be made but necessary ones to be sure! Off topic a bit perhaps, but certainly on target: Use modern day super-insulation to help conserve the power we are able to get! No longer acceptable, the Bull Shiite like the “American Dream” lifestyle demands, a smaller scale lifestyle is in order for all of us! Bicycles, humanured, composted, home gardening, Aquaculture, smaller homes, better insulated, and better thought out, less consumption and better use of what we do consume! We face a “Population Bomb”! China suggests it will allow two children per couple to compensate for aging workforce, greater numbers of elders in their population! This means we must share the limited world resources with even more demand (doubled in a decade at least!) from Asians! We face a time when the American dollar once commanded 80% of world’s resources, no longer has value at all! the Chinese “Yuan” is much stronger and will compete successfully against our dollar on world markets even for oil, our old monopoly – the Cartel being broken down as we speak! Iran sold the South Azadegan Oilfields to China recently! (largest discovery in the Middle East in thirty years! Gone!) Transactions? in Yuan not dollars! We get none of this resource in the West! Western civilization is in a precarious position! We must change, cut back, hunker down for the economic storm ahead! Small hydro installations, safe to environment or not, may make survival in the really tough times coming, in the next decades possible! We are forced to play off environmental issues against basic survival, under the Asian pressures on us today! Not nice choices to be made but necessary ones to be sure!

]]> By: Uncle B http://cleantechnica.com/2008/10/30/99-year-old-hydroelectric-plant-coming-back-online/#comment-20529 Uncle B Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:18:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=1395#comment-20529 Off topic a bit perhaps, but certainly on target: Use modern day super-insulation to help conserve the power we are able to get! No longer acceptable, the Bull Shiite like the "American Dream" lifestyle demands, a smaller scale lifestyle is in order for all of us! Bicycles, humanured, composted, home gardening, Aquaculture, smaller homes, better insulated, and better thought out, less consumption and better use of what we do consume! We face a "Population Bomb"! China suggests it will allow two children per couple to compensate for aging workforce, greater numbers of elders in their population! This means we must share the limited world resources with even more demand (doubled in a decade at least!) from Asians! We face a time when the American dollar once commanded 80% of world's resources, no longer has value at all! the Chinese "Yuan" is much stronger and will compete successfully against our dollar on world markets even for oil, our old monopoly - the Cartel being broken down as we speak! Iran sold the South Azadegan Oilfields to China recently! (largest discovery in the Middle East in thirty years! Gone!) Transactions? in Yuan not dollars! We get none of this resource in the West! Western civilization is in a precarious position! We must change, cut back, hunker down for the economic storm ahead! Small hydro installations, safe to environment or not, may make survival in the really tough times coming, in the next decades possible! We are forced to play off environmental issues against basic survival, under the Asian pressures on us today! Not nice choices to be made but necessary ones to be sure! Off topic a bit perhaps, but certainly on target: Use modern day super-insulation to help conserve the power we are able to get! No longer acceptable, the Bull Shiite like the “American Dream” lifestyle demands, a smaller scale lifestyle is in order for all of us! Bicycles, humanured, composted, home gardening, Aquaculture, smaller homes, better insulated, and better thought out, less consumption and better use of what we do consume! We face a “Population Bomb”! China suggests it will allow two children per couple to compensate for aging workforce, greater numbers of elders in their population! This means we must share the limited world resources with even more demand (doubled in a decade at least!) from Asians! We face a time when the American dollar once commanded 80% of world’s resources, no longer has value at all! the Chinese “Yuan” is much stronger and will compete successfully against our dollar on world markets even for oil, our old monopoly – the Cartel being broken down as we speak! Iran sold the South Azadegan Oilfields to China recently! (largest discovery in the Middle East in thirty years! Gone!) Transactions? in Yuan not dollars! We get none of this resource in the West! Western civilization is in a precarious position! We must change, cut back, hunker down for the economic storm ahead! Small hydro installations, safe to environment or not, may make survival in the really tough times coming, in the next decades possible! We are forced to play off environmental issues against basic survival, under the Asian pressures on us today! Not nice choices to be made but necessary ones to be sure!

]]> By: Mike http://cleantechnica.com/2008/10/30/99-year-old-hydroelectric-plant-coming-back-online/#comment-4652 Mike Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:12:18 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=1395#comment-4652 I would have to agree with the first commenter to some degree. Hydro dams in general are a disaster to many aspects of society and the ecology. Check out Renata, B.C. Canada. The thriving town was destroyed, burned , and flooded to build a dam which would eventually power homes throughout the valley. The residents had no choice, and the government bought them out for a fraction of what the real estate was worth. Many did not want to leave. Not only is the majority of the valley flooded ( combined two large lakes ), but now the Real estate value is worth Gold compared the amount of electricity generated at the dam. This dam also greatly impacts the breeding runs of many fish, including the near extinct salmon. I'm all for clean energy; however, dams are not always the way to go. In this case, sure.. the dam already existed. I would have to agree with the first commenter to some degree. Hydro dams in general are a disaster to many aspects of society and the ecology.

Check out Renata, B.C. Canada. The thriving town was destroyed, burned , and flooded to build a dam which would eventually power homes throughout the valley.

The residents had no choice, and the government bought them out for a fraction of what the real estate was worth. Many did not want to leave.

Not only is the majority of the valley flooded ( combined two large lakes ), but now the Real estate value is worth Gold compared the amount of electricity generated at the dam.

This dam also greatly impacts the breeding runs of many fish, including the near extinct salmon.

I’m all for clean energy; however, dams are not always the way to go. In this case, sure.. the dam already existed.

]]> By: Mike http://cleantechnica.com/2008/10/30/99-year-old-hydroelectric-plant-coming-back-online/#comment-20528 Mike Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:12:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=1395#comment-20528 I would have to agree with the first commenter to some degree. Hydro dams in general are a disaster to many aspects of society and the ecology. Check out Renata, B.C. Canada. The thriving town was destroyed, burned , and flooded to build a dam which would eventually power homes throughout the valley. The residents had no choice, and the government bought them out for a fraction of what the real estate was worth. Many did not want to leave. Not only is the majority of the valley flooded ( combined two large lakes ), but now the Real estate value is worth Gold compared the amount of electricity generated at the dam. This dam also greatly impacts the breeding runs of many fish, including the near extinct salmon. I'm all for clean energy; however, dams are not always the way to go. In this case, sure.. the dam already existed. I would have to agree with the first commenter to some degree. Hydro dams in general are a disaster to many aspects of society and the ecology.

Check out Renata, B.C. Canada. The thriving town was destroyed, burned , and flooded to build a dam which would eventually power homes throughout the valley.

The residents had no choice, and the government bought them out for a fraction of what the real estate was worth. Many did not want to leave.

Not only is the majority of the valley flooded ( combined two large lakes ), but now the Real estate value is worth Gold compared the amount of electricity generated at the dam.

This dam also greatly impacts the breeding runs of many fish, including the near extinct salmon.

I’m all for clean energy; however, dams are not always the way to go. In this case, sure.. the dam already existed.

]]> By: design http://cleantechnica.com/2008/10/30/99-year-old-hydroelectric-plant-coming-back-online/#comment-4651 design Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:24:19 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=1395#comment-4651 And that's how desperate we are. And that’s how desperate we are.

]]> By: design http://cleantechnica.com/2008/10/30/99-year-old-hydroelectric-plant-coming-back-online/#comment-20527 design Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:24:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=1395#comment-20527 And that's how desperate we are. And that’s how desperate we are.

]]> By: whome http://cleantechnica.com/2008/10/30/99-year-old-hydroelectric-plant-coming-back-online/#comment-4650 whome Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:00:41 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=1395#comment-4650 Hmmm....instead of going with these small foot print projects to create energy, maybe we should go with coal or nuclear? ORRRRR.....we should capture the gases the sheep emit in the background. Note: Sheep are large producers of gases, which is why we should not wear wool clothing. Hmmm….instead of going with these small foot print projects to create energy, maybe we should go with coal or nuclear?

ORRRRR…..we should capture the gases the sheep emit in the background.

Note:

Sheep are large producers of gases, which is why we should not wear wool clothing.

]]> By: whome http://cleantechnica.com/2008/10/30/99-year-old-hydroelectric-plant-coming-back-online/#comment-20526 whome Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:00:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=1395#comment-20526 Hmmm....instead of going with these small foot print projects to create energy, maybe we should go with coal or nuclear? ORRRRR.....we should capture the gases the sheep emit in the background. Note: Sheep are large producers of gases, which is why we should not wear wool clothing. Hmmm….instead of going with these small foot print projects to create energy, maybe we should go with coal or nuclear?

ORRRRR…..we should capture the gases the sheep emit in the background.

Note:

Sheep are large producers of gases, which is why we should not wear wool clothing.

]]> By: Seamus Dubh http://cleantechnica.com/2008/10/30/99-year-old-hydroelectric-plant-coming-back-online/#comment-4649 Seamus Dubh Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:41:08 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=1395#comment-4649 RE: joebob Actually think of it as 1397 kWh a day. That could power quite a few homes in the surrounding three villages, in the middle of bfe nowhere. And depending on how efficiently or how much they normally use, this'll put a nice size dent into or completely eliminate their dependence on the grid. RE: joebob

Actually think of it as 1397 kWh a day. That could power quite a few homes in the surrounding three villages, in the middle of bfe nowhere. And depending on how efficiently or how much they normally use, this’ll put a nice size dent into or completely eliminate their dependence on the grid.

]]> By: Seamus Dubh http://cleantechnica.com/2008/10/30/99-year-old-hydroelectric-plant-coming-back-online/#comment-20525 Seamus Dubh Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:41:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=1395#comment-20525 RE: joebob Actually think of it as 1397 kWh a day. That could power quite a few homes in the surrounding three villages, in the middle of bfe nowhere. And depending on how efficiently or how much they normally use, this'll put a nice size dent into or completely eliminate their dependence on the grid. RE: joebob

Actually think of it as 1397 kWh a day. That could power quite a few homes in the surrounding three villages, in the middle of bfe nowhere. And depending on how efficiently or how much they normally use, this’ll put a nice size dent into or completely eliminate their dependence on the grid.

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