Magnetic Air Car Could Be Ready by 2010
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The Magnetic Air Car uses three on-board substations to harness compressed air. The resulting airflow is channeled, modulated, and converted to torque that propels the car.
According to company representative Paul Donovan, the car uses a silicon salt battery that has 30% more mass power than a lead acid storage battery and can charge completely within an hour. The 95 percent recyclable battery can also can be used in a temperature range from -40 degrees Celsius to 50 degrees Celsius.
Though the Magnetic Air Car has not yet been tested, Donovan hopes to have it ready for production by 2010. The company plans on building its first prototype at Club Auto Sport in San Jose in the near future.
The vehicle draws comparisons to Tata Motors’ 106 mpg air car, but Donovan says that the Tata Motors design uses pistons while the Magnetic Air Car design uses magnetic technology.
Unfortunately, there aren’t any more details available on the Magnetic Air Car at this time. But if the prototype is successful, I’m sure we’ll hear plenty more about this company.
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It uses a magnetic motor to power the air compresses, which then fills the air tanks and runs the car on compressed air. No more information can be given at this time, we are in the process of filing numerous patents on the technology, and we will make more information available to the website when we are protected.
Thank you
Beau Griffis
Strategic Business Development
Magnetic Air Cars Inc.
There are a lot of sourpusses here, which can be a great thing if the people that need to respond to the questions get to see them. A few points to note from what I’ve read here so far: 1, There HAS to be something better than fossil fuels for us to exploit. 2, Its a magnetic car, not electric, not compressed air, magnetic - we can avoid jumping to conclusions if we really try. 3, if you got burned by a scam, it doesn’t mean that anything new out of the box is a scam, because if it were, we wouldn’t even have DC power. 4, We’re going to quibble over the meanings of phrases, because that’s our nature (fuelless car??) but maybe the vehicle charges it’s own battery, so does that make it fuelless to some? Probably, even though they’ll eventually admit that it’s USING fuel, even if the fuel is “free”.
well i think that this would be a really good idea.Because it would help the earth and even its people on it.Everybody would love this car.I mean it may coast alot but people may have the money to buy it.I would love to have this car and so would everyone eles!!!
Herman said that this company in Canada is building solar cars. Have you seen these cars? Great for one person and a young person, but not really for families or multiple numbers of people, although I know that most times, there’s only one person in the car, at least most of the time.
The car is only an application. The best application for this new engine would be stationary power. Generators, Water Pumps, desalination plants. Think how wonderful it would be to drain the Hetch Hetchy Valley and still have all the water we need all year round. The mid USA is dry, ten years drought dry, some of those farms have wells but can’t afford the power it would take to use them. We build the motor, we get fresh clean water to everyone, power for all our toys, with no pollution and the day comes when we see an Antique Sunset. Clean the air enough and that is what happens. No crud in the air means a clean sunset. No other colors but bright Gold-Yellow. I’m 52, the men in my family normally don’t live past 48, my Father only made it to 41, I want to live long enough to see that Golden Sunset. then I can die happy because that will mean the Magnetic Air Motor was such a smash hit that its use circum-navigated the planet. If the Chinese, Austrailians and Indians replace Gasoline/Diesel with Magnetic Air on their generators, the whole world will follow suite and the air quality will grow cleaner in a very short time. If every one of those motors were to incorporate water/air filtration, the result will happen that much faster. We could undo all the damage done by the previous generations and make the world that much better for our children and generations to come.
In the SFBA the average commute is nmore than 200 miles round trip. That equates to $700 to $1,000 a month. There are people losing their homes because they can;t afford it. The Animal Shelters are filling with the pets these people can no longer keep when the are forced to down-grade their living arrangments. Replace Electricty and Gasoline for their cars with self generated power and we are talking about debt relief. You could outfit your larger vehicles with generators on board. Go home from work, let the truck idle in the drvieway, plug it in, your energy bill goes down. You go on vacation to that remote cabin, out in the sticks, you take your power with you. Your Boat becomes the greenest possible toy you can have. Not only does it go through the water, no only does it make all the electricity you need but it does so without polluting. You can charge the battery in the small boat for the trolling motor and go stealth the next day early to Catch fish. Best of all, after you use the Mag Motor long enough, the water purifies and the fish are better for you and their are more of them because they thrive better.
Negative people are just frustrated people who are desensitized by the lack of passion that surrounds them. They are almost all much younger than I and they are just sick and tired of false promises. Well we plan to succeed, we will make something work and as soon as possible. Cars don’t have to be Magnetic Air. What do you get if you tear the Motor out of a Prius and just make all the electricty you need for the electric part. THEN when you need it it can give an added boost when you are climbing high elevations to go camping. And when you get there you can cook without burning wood or charcoal or gas. You can cook with electricity that does not cause pollution and ONE Mag motior/generator canm power several RVs. Mom could sleep in the tent AND be warmed by a small ceramic heater. She could smooth the edges off the ‘Rough-it’ part of campimg. If you let yourself get positive, just a little, you can see the future. And when you do, you hear that phrase singing in your head, The future’s so bright, you gotta waer shades!
“At times one remains faithfull to the cause only because its opponents cease to be insipid!”
Nietzsche
Wow. I’m still surprised at how many naive people there are out there. Why are all the people that use their brains and point out flaws in ‘new inventions’ always sourpusses? If these things were real, all the negativity in the world from bloggers won’t stop them.
I’ve read the above article, the multiple posts from Paul, and the tiny bit of info at magneticaircars.com. With 99.999% certainty, this is snake oil. All show. Zero go. There are claims of what it does, but zero about how. Zero. You don’t like what I have to say? Then PROVE me wrong. All I have to do is invoke the law of conservation of energy as my proof. That law is batting 1000. Never been disproved. What Paul is saying flies in the face of that law. For centuries people have been trying to bilk other people with free energy machines or perpetual motion machines. 100% have been proven to be fake.
I’ll be happy to take bets. No, scratch that. EXSTATIC to take bets. Put your money where your mouth is. The site says that this tech will be used in production cars by 2010, or earlier. I’ll be happy to give them till the end of 2010. I can wait that long to retire.
What? Don’t I WANT free energy? Don’t I think the polluted Earth deserve better than the treatment humans are giving it right now? Yes, of course I do. I also want to go faster than the speed of light. Doesn’t mean I can.
And, OBTW, the claim of the Tata air car getting 106 MPG is FALSE. The 106 mpg claim is by taking eight gallons of gas plus 3200 cubic feet of air pressurized to 4500 psi. The 106 MPG calculation is ONLY counting the gas (used to heat the compressed air as it is regulated out of the tank (to give it more expansion energy)). Does anyone know how much energy is used to compress 3200 cubic feet of air to 4500 psi? Sorry, I don’t know either, but I know it takes a significant amount of energy to compress air to just a fraction of that psi.
Anyway, we sourpusses will just continue to be sourpusses until some of this snake oil technology is proven. So get over it.
“A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.”*
I LOVE negative people, they keep us honest.
The fact is this. When I first heard how He (Our Fearless leader!) proposed to make this engine run, I also thought something was wrong with his reasoning. And then I saw the Machine to which he was refering. I was NOT impressed, but then he did something that absolutely blew me out of the water. His associate hooked it up, turned it one and made it scream all the way to thirty Thousand RPM! Standing next to me was a gentleman, they invited, who had a PHD. It cost $500 an hour to have him there for this demonstration. This Gentleman watched the demo, shook his head afterward and said, I just stood here and watched it happen and I still don’t understand how it could possibly work! Then He (#1) looked at me and asked, Can you make it ramp-up through several stages and make some REALLY HUGE PRESSURE? I felt like a little Kidd who just opened the best, most bad ass, Christmas Present ever imaginable. I quickly thought out the schematic in my head and answered YES!
I’ll say it again! Thanks to the exposure West Coast Green provided Magnetic Air Cars, we have been contacted by more people of vision, more Inventors of Strange New Technologies that are afraid to go to Negative People and be scorned. Some of these people are coming from very far distances (Think Russia!) where they do not want thier technology stolen and bastardized by people who would use it in a harmful way. I foget which company said it first, but this is where it applies the most. THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING. And we will build it, and it will run, and we will overcome the control problem and it will be soon. Because, by golly, the whole world needs this to work. A complete and total turn around in the economy should be possible just from the number of companies that will spring forth to build the new motor. People who have cars they love, and don’t want to part with, should be able to retro-fit their cars with a Magnetic Air Motor.
The next four weeks are critical to the advancement/ developement of this engine. I am afraid all my additional time will be devoted to this technology until further notice. I’ll try to return and provide some insite into our procedings, but not give away any intellectual property type secrets. AND, this I promise, IF it shold come to pass that we discover it will NOT work. You will read about it, here, first. I have no problem admitting fault, no embarrassment! I’ll laugh right along with those who laugh at me.
“The man of knowledge must be able not only to love his enemies, but also to hate his friends!”*
*Friederich Nietzsche
BTW, I have been ‘Over it!’ for a very long time!
First off magnetic air cars has no technology. My name is elisha dumas, and my twin brother is elijah dumas. We are the inventors of the system they are claiming (not associates as stated in the post above this one) and you can read our patent application online.
We have the original prototype and we are finalizing our air-bearing prototype, which should be completed next week.
In fact so you don’t think I’m some random person just starting trouble and writing non-sense you can call me directly 1-408-254-2686 or 1-408-661-3920.
Anything that you hear from magnetic air cars is a fraud and they are trying to use our technology and get away with it.
We are 24 years old and after high school we had nothing, didn’t know anything. We didn’t know what we were going to do with our life and we were 18 yrs old at the time. One day we just started messing with turbochargers and for the next 6 yrs we finally came up with our technology. It was tough since it’s hard to go against modern physics concerning centrifugal air compressors (turbochargers, superchargers, etc).
No help from anybody, we worked hard for money and spent it on prototyping (daunting task, with failures!) and now magnetic air cars, which contributed nothing (aka – ZIP!) wants to use our technology and get away with it. Why are they bothering us? Why don’t they bother some college graduate, a phd or somebody who earns 6 figures a year? We are just trying to make the world a better place and get our life together. The last thing we want to deal with are pirates.
We had to make our youtube videos private since magnetic air cars were using them for their meetings (once again without our consent) to raise money.
http://www.youtube.com/user/llmbs
We used to have access to magnetic air cars but we have been banned from accessing the site. How would you like to take a shit and find out somebody is trying to take it and wont let you have access to your own shit?
There wouldn’t be any shit to take if I was not eating can also be stated as there wouldn’t be any technology to take if we didn’t spend 6 yrs of our life developing it.
Key information and flash drawings on magnetic air cars site were made by me us. I hope your getting the story here. Here is a short poem of the story in a nutshell.
True friends are like diamonds, precious but rare. False friends are like autumn leaves, found everywhere.
Now I will shed some light on the technology they are trying to use without our consent. What we have built is a low delta t- turbocharger (air compressor). Our objective was to increase the compression ratio of today’s engines from standard 9:1 to 70:1 on 87-octane fuel with no detonation.
We can see why magnetic air cars want to use our technology for an air car since it is possible with our low delta t- turbocharger. A magnetic motor is not needed. The advantage of our turbo charger is that it has potential to compress air 3-5 times more efficient than adiabatic air compressors.
An adiabatic process for air compressors is known by the following formula.
(T2/T1) = (P2/P1)[(g-1)/g]
By plugging in the pressure ratio and compressor efficiency of a turbocharger one is able to determine the outlet temperature of the compressed air. To determine the power required at steady state, one must use the temperature difference and specific heat of air to get a steady state power requirement.
For example:
A T3-50 trim turbocharger at 77 F inlet temp, compressor efficiency of 70%, pr of 2.8 and a mass flow of 25 lbs/min should discharge an outlet temp of 337 F. The power required to do this can be around 44 hp. With technology we believe it will only require 7 hp.
You can view one video of our progress on youtube .
http://www.youtube.com/user/llmbs
I think it is a great idea, as long as the magnetic motor has enough horse power to keep a compressor at constant pressure. I have worked on air over hydraulic motor generator systems and you need a constant 2000 pound air pressure to turn the engine over. Also is the reason for the three stage turbo system to eliminate a accumulator tank as this would add alot of weight to the vehicle and the tank could rupture in an accident? Also the magnetic motor cannot consume alot of amperage otherwise the battery won’t be able to be recharged by the altenator, if that is what your regeneration system will have. Need more info.
When I first saw the announcements of the Magnetic Air Car I figured that it was a couple of guys doing a spoof; making fun of the gullibility of many in the alternative car field.
After all, who would believe the perpetual motion claims, the gobbledygook jargon, etc.
I see three possibilities …
1) It’s all a big spoof ala onion.com, and they just haven’t gotten around to yelling “FOOLED YOU ALL”!!!!
2) It’s a scam.
3) They are deluded people that actually believe.
Please note that they have not yet built a prototype, and have ZERO test data.
Please note that not only does this car run without fuel, but Paul in his post about 4 above this says that you can leave your car idling in the driveway, then hook up the cars generator to your house and supply power back to the electric company. Doesn’t this sound just a LITTLE bit too good to be true.
Well, I guess not if you believe in “zero point energy”, like Paul says in another post.
Snake oil is too charitable of a term for this stuff.