Comments on: 1 Block Off the Grid Rolling Out California's Largest Community Solar Initiative http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Fri, 25 May 2012 18:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: 1 Block Off the Grid’s Community Solar Initiative Expanding to 20 US Cities : CleanTechnica http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-2227 1 Block Off the Grid’s Community Solar Initiative Expanding to 20 US Cities : CleanTechnica Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:58:22 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-2227 [...] we last wrote about 1 Block Off the Grid’s(1BOG) community solar initiative in San Francisco, many of you [...] [...] we last wrote about 1 Block Off the Grid’s(1BOG) community solar initiative in San Francisco, many of you [...]

]]> By: Conrad http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-2226 Conrad Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:17:38 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-2226 I think .... the invoking of solar power in a home is not only about financial return. Electric prices are rising and the providers need to realize that there is another solution besides them for our energy needs. Above someone stated that a 2000 watt system was not enough, I disagree! 2kw at peak sun means (minimum of 5 hours sun) 1kw/hr from 9-11 2kw from 11-4 1kw from 4-6 (14kw to 9kw per day) which is approximately 420000 watts per month or 420kw per month. I utilize 650 (pretty conservative but I use an electric water heater). All in all solar power is the future, teaming up to buy it in bulk is VERY smart and cutting edge. I wish that I could find someone willing to split up a 100 acre purchase in south texas! Go green or die! I think …. the invoking of solar power in a home is not only about financial return. Electric prices are rising and the providers need to realize that there is another solution besides them for our energy needs. Above someone stated that a 2000 watt system was not enough, I disagree! 2kw at peak sun means (minimum of 5 hours sun) 1kw/hr from 9-11 2kw from 11-4 1kw from 4-6 (14kw to 9kw per day) which is approximately 420000 watts per month or 420kw per month. I utilize 650 (pretty conservative but I use an electric water heater). All in all solar power is the future, teaming up to buy it in bulk is VERY smart and cutting edge. I wish that I could find someone willing to split up a 100 acre purchase in south texas! Go green or die!

]]> By: Conrad http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-19002 Conrad Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:17:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-19002 I think .... the invoking of solar power in a home is not only about financial return. Electric prices are rising and the providers need to realize that there is another solution besides them for our energy needs. Above someone stated that a 2000 watt system was not enough, I disagree! 2kw at peak sun means (minimum of 5 hours sun) 1kw/hr from 9-11 2kw from 11-4 1kw from 4-6 (14kw to 9kw per day) which is approximately 420000 watts per month or 420kw per month. I utilize 650 (pretty conservative but I use an electric water heater). All in all solar power is the future, teaming up to buy it in bulk is VERY smart and cutting edge. I wish that I could find someone willing to split up a 100 acre purchase in south texas! Go green or die! I think …. the invoking of solar power in a home is not only about financial return. Electric prices are rising and the providers need to realize that there is another solution besides them for our energy needs. Above someone stated that a 2000 watt system was not enough, I disagree! 2kw at peak sun means (minimum of 5 hours sun) 1kw/hr from 9-11 2kw from 11-4 1kw from 4-6 (14kw to 9kw per day) which is approximately 420000 watts per month or 420kw per month. I utilize 650 (pretty conservative but I use an electric water heater). All in all solar power is the future, teaming up to buy it in bulk is VERY smart and cutting edge. I wish that I could find someone willing to split up a 100 acre purchase in south texas! Go green or die!

]]> By: Tech Today or Tech Tomorrow? Energy Debate 2 : CleanTechnica http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-2225 Tech Today or Tech Tomorrow? Energy Debate 2 : CleanTechnica Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:31:09 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-2225 [...] so they still get a cut when their customers use less. As a result, you see huge solar projects and initiatives rolling out of states like [...] [...] so they still get a cut when their customers use less. As a result, you see huge solar projects and initiatives rolling out of states like [...]

]]> By: BoredQuiz http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-2224 BoredQuiz Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:30:46 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-2224 this is an awesome initiative this is an awesome initiative

]]> By: BoredQuiz http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-19001 BoredQuiz Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:30:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-19001 this is an awesome initiative this is an awesome initiative

]]> By: 1 Block Off the Grid Rolling Out Community Solar Initiative « Solar Lights http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-2223 1 Block Off the Grid Rolling Out Community Solar Initiative « Solar Lights Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:13:27 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-2223 [...] read more | digg story [...] [...] read more | digg story [...]

]]> By: Terry http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-2222 Terry Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:07:53 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-2222 Doc, The worst part is your investment of $840 would gain you $42 a year interest if you bought a 5% CD. Your electrical savings, on that same $840 invested in the panel at 0.10/KW, would only be $31.70 for the year. Not only would you not get back your investment in 26 years you would actually lose $10.30 a year in income besides. I watched a video of how solar panels are made by hand. The process needs to be automated and streamlined to make t more economically appealing. A 15KW system needs to sell for under $10000. Thats the price point to target. At that price point solar voltaic will sell. Doc,

The worst part is your investment of $840 would gain you $42 a year interest if you bought a 5% CD. Your electrical savings, on that same $840 invested in the panel at 0.10/KW, would only be $31.70 for the year. Not only would you not get back your investment in 26 years you would actually lose $10.30 a year in income besides. I watched a video of how solar panels are made by hand. The process needs to be automated and streamlined to make t more economically appealing. A 15KW system needs to sell for under $10000. Thats the price point to target. At that price point solar voltaic will sell.

]]> By: Terry http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-19000 Terry Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:07:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-19000 Doc, The worst part is your investment of $840 would gain you $42 a year interest if you bought a 5% CD. Your electrical savings, on that same $840 invested in the panel at 0.10/KW, would only be $31.70 for the year. Not only would you not get back your investment in 26 years you would actually lose $10.30 a year in income besides. I watched a video of how solar panels are made by hand. The process needs to be automated and streamlined to make t more economically appealing. A 15KW system needs to sell for under $10000. Thats the price point to target. At that price point solar voltaic will sell. Doc,

The worst part is your investment of $840 would gain you $42 a year interest if you bought a 5% CD. Your electrical savings, on that same $840 invested in the panel at 0.10/KW, would only be $31.70 for the year. Not only would you not get back your investment in 26 years you would actually lose $10.30 a year in income besides. I watched a video of how solar panels are made by hand. The process needs to be automated and streamlined to make t more economically appealing. A 15KW system needs to sell for under $10000. Thats the price point to target. At that price point solar voltaic will sell.

]]> By: Ian http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-2221 Ian Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:31:01 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-2221 What if installed solar panels were part of the building code? I assume having insulation is. Right now you would need to reduce your house size about 10% to cover the cost of solar (1Kw/1000 square-feet of house). It would be part of the amortized cost and you would have a lower energy bill each month. Lower some places than others of course. Instead of a 2200 ft^2 house you'd get 2000 ft^2. What if installed solar panels were part of the building code? I assume having insulation is. Right now you would need to reduce your house size about 10% to cover the cost of solar (1Kw/1000 square-feet of house). It would be part of the amortized cost and you would have a lower energy bill each month. Lower some places than others of course. Instead of a 2200 ft^2 house you’d get 2000 ft^2.

]]> By: Ian http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-18999 Ian Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:31:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-18999 What if installed solar panels were part of the building code? I assume having insulation is. Right now you would need to reduce your house size about 10% to cover the cost of solar (1Kw/1000 square-feet of house). It would be part of the amortized cost and you would have a lower energy bill each month. Lower some places than others of course. Instead of a 2200 ft^2 house you'd get 2000 ft^2. What if installed solar panels were part of the building code? I assume having insulation is. Right now you would need to reduce your house size about 10% to cover the cost of solar (1Kw/1000 square-feet of house). It would be part of the amortized cost and you would have a lower energy bill each month. Lower some places than others of course. Instead of a 2200 ft^2 house you’d get 2000 ft^2.

]]> By: Doc http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-2220 Doc Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:47:54 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-2220 I went to the wunderground.com website and input my Florida home lat/long... If I buy a Kyocero KD-205GX-LP panel for $840, I can generate 317KWhr/yr... Downside: 26 year payback at 0.10c/KWhr, not including batteries, controllers and labor for installation... OUCH! I hope someone can come up with cheaper solar panels in the next 10 years by a factor of 5 or so. It would be nice to recoup the investment within 5 to 7 years to encourage more installation, especially with a lot of people not willing to invest upgrading a home if they only live in them for 3-5 years. Ciao, Doc I went to the wunderground.com website and input my Florida home lat/long… If I buy a Kyocero KD-205GX-LP panel for $840, I can generate 317KWhr/yr…

Downside: 26 year payback at 0.10c/KWhr, not including batteries, controllers and labor for installation… OUCH!

I hope someone can come up with cheaper solar panels in the next 10 years by a factor of 5 or so. It would be nice to recoup the investment within 5 to 7 years to encourage more installation, especially with a lot of people not willing to invest upgrading a home if they only live in them for 3-5 years.

Ciao,

Doc

]]> By: Doc http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-18998 Doc Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:47:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-18998 I went to the wunderground.com website and input my Florida home lat/long... If I buy a Kyocero KD-205GX-LP panel for $840, I can generate 317KWhr/yr... Downside: 26 year payback at 0.10c/KWhr, not including batteries, controllers and labor for installation... OUCH! I hope someone can come up with cheaper solar panels in the next 10 years by a factor of 5 or so. It would be nice to recoup the investment within 5 to 7 years to encourage more installation, especially with a lot of people not willing to invest upgrading a home if they only live in them for 3-5 years. Ciao, Doc I went to the wunderground.com website and input my Florida home lat/long… If I buy a Kyocero KD-205GX-LP panel for $840, I can generate 317KWhr/yr…

Downside: 26 year payback at 0.10c/KWhr, not including batteries, controllers and labor for installation… OUCH!

I hope someone can come up with cheaper solar panels in the next 10 years by a factor of 5 or so. It would be nice to recoup the investment within 5 to 7 years to encourage more installation, especially with a lot of people not willing to invest upgrading a home if they only live in them for 3-5 years.

Ciao,

Doc

]]> By: Sebas http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-2219 Sebas Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:50:56 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-2219 Call that cutting edge thinking? SolarCity started this kind of program two years ago by signing up over 80 homes in Portola Valley, and has run many since then. Call that cutting edge thinking? SolarCity started this kind of program two years ago by signing up over 80 homes in Portola Valley, and has run many since then.

]]> By: Sebas http://cleantechnica.com/2008/08/19/1-block-off-the-grid-rolling-out-californias-largest-community-solar-initiative/#comment-18997 Sebas Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:50:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/?p=896#comment-18997 Call that cutting edge thinking? SolarCity started this kind of program two years ago by signing up over 80 homes in Portola Valley, and has run many since then. Call that cutting edge thinking? SolarCity started this kind of program two years ago by signing up over 80 homes in Portola Valley, and has run many since then.

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