Comments on: The "Unlimited" Potential of American Wind Power: AWEA http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/ Clean Tech News & Views: Solar Energy News. Wind Energy News. EV News. & More. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-108506 Anonymous Sat, 03 Dec 2011 23:47:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-108506 I'm copying this from another discussion in which Andrew posted these same claims.... -- Andrew, you've been here before and I, for one, have learned not to trust your claims. Show us the math that says that we would need 300 million acres and at least $20 trillion to replace coal with renewable energy. Be sure to use only the footprint of wind turbines, not the 98%+ of land within a wind farm that is still usable for farming, grazing and wildlife. While you're at it, make sure you include only the land aside from rooftops and parking lots that we'll need for solar. Remember to subtract the cost of necessary plant replacement as existing coal plants wear out. Subtract the savings that we'll realize by no longer having to pay enormous amounts for coal-related health and environmental damage. I'd like you to prove that you're not just writing crap and hoping the less critical will swallow it. I’m copying this from another discussion in which Andrew posted these same claims….

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Andrew, you’ve been here before and I, for one, have learned not to trust your claims.

Show us the math that says that we would need 300 million acres and at least $20 trillion to replace coal with renewable energy.

Be sure to use only the footprint of wind turbines, not the 98%+ of land within a wind farm that is still usable for farming, grazing and wildlife.
While you’re at it, make sure you include only the land aside from rooftops and parking lots that we’ll need for solar.

Remember to subtract the cost of necessary plant replacement as existing coal plants wear out. Subtract the savings that we’ll realize by no longer having to pay enormous amounts for coal-related health and environmental damage.

I’d like you to prove that you’re not just writing crap and hoping the less critical will swallow it.

]]> By: AndrewW http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-108503 AndrewW Sat, 03 Dec 2011 23:03:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-108503 Incentives create false hopes. If wind and solar want to replace coal-generated electricity, they would need 300 million acres and at least $20 trillion. We don't have either. If the world wants clean, affordable energy let them offer $1 billion for a real solution. That's a small price to pay for something the whole world needs. Solar and Wind development schemes have received $1.2 trillion in the last 10 years. Demand has increased by 3X what these new renewables can ever produce. We are NOT going forward or making any progress. In terms of economic development, starting companies is not what will save us - solving problems will. Find a start up that is solving something, not just being a little better than their competitors. Find something meaningful. That will change the economy and the world. Incentives create false hopes. If wind and solar want to replace coal-generated electricity, they would need 300 million acres and at least $20 trillion. We don’t have either.

If the world wants clean, affordable energy let them offer $1 billion for a real solution. That’s a small price to pay for something the whole world needs. Solar and Wind development schemes have received $1.2 trillion in the last 10 years. Demand has increased by 3X what these new renewables can ever produce. We are NOT going forward or making any progress.

In terms of economic development, starting companies is not what will save us – solving problems will. Find a start up that is solving something, not just being a little better than their competitors. Find something meaningful. That will change the economy and the world.

]]> By: Chris http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-80661 Chris Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:28:43 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-80661 to Jon David - If you really want to whine about your oh so pretty mountain view, you can send your great-grandchildren to a world where we run out of fossil fuels and have no electricity, and society breaks down into anarchy. I am guessing that you are part of the generation that screwed up our economy and left it to kids. The fact that im a 13 year old kid and i see better sense than you is pathetic, so i would either just shut ur lame-ass whining mouth or suck it up and deal with the view. to Jon David –
If you really want to whine about your oh so pretty mountain view, you can send your great-grandchildren to a world where we run out of fossil fuels and have no electricity, and society breaks down into anarchy. I am guessing that you are part of the generation that screwed up our economy and left it to kids. The fact that im a 13 year old kid and i see better sense than you is pathetic, so i would either just shut ur lame-ass whining mouth or suck it up and deal with the view.

]]> By: Thomas Dickerman http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-954 Thomas Dickerman Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:10:01 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-954 I need information on the cost of wind power over the years, and the growth of wind capacity intalled world wide. Can you help me? I need information on the cost of wind power over the years, and the growth of wind capacity intalled world wide. Can you help me?

]]> By: Thomas Dickerman http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-17195 Thomas Dickerman Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:10:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-17195 I need information on the cost of wind power over the years, and the growth of wind capacity intalled world wide. Can you help me? I need information on the cost of wind power over the years, and the growth of wind capacity intalled world wide. Can you help me?

]]> By: Bailing Out Renewable Energy Tax Credits : CleanTechnica http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-952 Bailing Out Renewable Energy Tax Credits : CleanTechnica Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:53:52 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-952 [...] energy also benefits from the 8-year extension on existing renewable energy investment tax [...] [...] energy also benefits from the 8-year extension on existing renewable energy investment tax [...]

]]> By: Houston, America’s “Energy Capital,” Takes On Global Warming : Red, Green, and Blue http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-951 Houston, America’s “Energy Capital,” Takes On Global Warming : Red, Green, and Blue Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:05:41 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-951 [...] mayor’s plan, the largest reductions in emissions would come from Houston’s shift to wind energy.  Currently the city already purchase 1/3 of its energy for its municipal facilities from [...] [...] mayor’s plan, the largest reductions in emissions would come from Houston’s shift to wind energy.  Currently the city already purchase 1/3 of its energy for its municipal facilities from [...]

]]> By: Tech Today or Tech Tomorrow? Energy Debate 2 : CleanTechnica http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-950 Tech Today or Tech Tomorrow? Energy Debate 2 : CleanTechnica Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:40:51 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-950 [...] has written before that wind power is most cost effective after building regional manufacturing factories. Think of [...] [...] has written before that wind power is most cost effective after building regional manufacturing factories. Think of [...]

]]> By: Ray Graves http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-949 Ray Graves Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:07:15 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-949 One of the best reasons for the alternate energy is the jobs that it will create in this country......as long as the work on the project is done IN THIS COUNTRY..... One of the best reasons for the alternate energy is the jobs that it will create in this country……as long as the work on the project is done IN THIS COUNTRY…..

]]> By: Ray Graves http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-17194 Ray Graves Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:07:00 +0000 http://cleantechnica.com/2008/04/22/the-unlimited-potential-of-american-wind-power-awea/#comment-17194 One of the best reasons for the alternate energy is the jobs that it will create in this country......as long as the work on the project is done IN THIS COUNTRY..... One of the best reasons for the alternate energy is the jobs that it will create in this country……as long as the work on the project is done IN THIS COUNTRY…..

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